Hitler’s and Obama’s health enabling acts

hitler and obama is two different thing hitmer is one of the brave man but obama have only power from others

Alright,for those who say there is no compaison....

LaRouche: Obama Has Revived
Hitler's Genocide Program
by John Hoefle


May 15—In October 1939, Nazi Leader Adolf Hitler issued an order, written in his own hand, ordering the extermination of those who were considered "unworthy of life." The order, entitled "The Destruction of Lives Unworthy of Life," stated that patients "considered incurable according to the best available human judgment of their state of health, be accorded a mercy death."

Hitler's murder spree started with the mentally ill, the terminally ill, invalids, and the disabled, and eventually spread to millions of Jews, Gypsies, and other "undesirables"—worked to death or exterminated in concentration camps.

This monstrous program was initially sold as an economic measure: "The economic burden represented by people suffering from hereditary diseases is a danger for the State and society," Nazi Dr. Gerhard Wagner said at the Nazi party congress in 1934. The Nazis required all state institutions to report on patients who were chronically ill, and used those reports as the basis to decide which patients should be killed.

Today, the Obama Administration is beginning to descend down that same road, promising to make the "tough choices" to cut entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security to save money—at precisely the time in which an increasing number of Americans are forced to depend on them as the economy slides deeper into Depression. Obama is willing to spend trillions of dollars to bail out the financial markets, and pay for it by slashing programs which keep ordinary Americans alive.

Think we're exaggerating? Take the case of a paper entitled "What Are the Potential Cost Savings from Legalizing Physician-Assisted Suicide?" It sounds like something that might have been written by Jeremy Bentham, or Aldous Huxley, or maybe Nazi doctor Karl Brandt, but it was actually co-authored in 1998 by "bio-ethicist" Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, a leading advisor to Obama's budget director Peter Orszag, and a member of the 15-person Federal Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research, the group which has been designated to prepare the list of which medical procedures will henceforth be permitted, and which will not. Emanuel's co-author, Margaret Battin, has written other papers promoting suicide and selective refusal of medical treatment. The pair are really just echoing Karl Brandt's defense of euthanasia at Nuremberg: "Death can mean deliverance. Death is life—just as much as birth. It was never meant to be murder." But it was.

Lyndon LaRouche warned:

The Hitler program has been revived by the Obama Administration. This is straight Nazi stuff. It's not a quibble; it's not an interpretation. This is a direct copy of the philosophy of the Nazis. You cannot duck that issue. This is Nazi stuff, it's explicit. We know all this stuff from Hermann Göring and so forth in the 1920s, and after that with their international connections, like certain Wall Street firms. We have been warned, and we act accordingly. People who condone this are criminals, because they either knew, or should have known, what they are doing. They either knew, or should have known.

This is mass murder. Obama has adopted Hitler's program. There is no reason to hold one's tongue. When the President of the United States has adopted Hitler's program, that's the time to unleash. This is exactly what I warned about on April 11th in my webcast. Obama has a Nero complex. Obama is the new Nero. This is exactly what is happening. This is Hitler's policy now being echoed by Obama. Let's not allow any compromise. You have to attack this directly. He has adopted Hitler's genocidal health policy...

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www.larouchepub.com...

Originally posted by mark40
hitler and obama is two different thing hitmer is one of the brave man but obama have only power from others

Totally get you man, Hitmer is one of brave man.

Obama definately does have only power from others, there could be many reasons for this. I beleive its due to Hitmers struggle for his own people, whereas obama hates americans.

reply to post by On the Edge


You have got to be me.

You actually believe this malarkey?

Wow, some people are completely delusional. Lyndon LaRouche is a complete nut job.

Yes and for the 6 years before the war, Germany flourished.
Employment skyrocketed and all had good healthcare.
Germany went from post war poor, to world power. Oh the horror.

reply to post by ZombieOctopus


i beg to differ on the hitler scenario! first you can observe the patriot act, then you can look at the way hitler absorbed his way into power, while destroying all of germany rights and constitutional liberties! Are you saying that history doesn't repeat itself? or are you just saying that you do not want to see all the similiarities? being a history major myself! it has scared the be-jesus out of me and has opened my eyes up. guess in a nut shell i would ask you too open up your history books and compare hitlers 8 years of rise to power and demise- then to our uncanny situation here in the U.S!

reply to post by allprowolfy


Allprowolfy, I do not see any similarities between Hitler's being elcted to Chancellory and Obama being elected president.

Now if Obama were to obtain absolute rule through martial law..... then you have a point, but saying that now is not only premature, it is simply silly.

What leads you to make Obama/Hitler connections?

reply to post by spinalremain


i should have clarified myself just a bit. where america has taken off since the patriot act-bush, to obama and this health care package, that is an atrosity. we now are in the final stages of American's demise. the means to over throw both governments has simuiar circumstances which include, but not limited to the following.

1) both countries having horrible foreign policy for businesses. American-Nafta, Germany- Versailles treaty

2)Both countries having governments that worked against the ordinary citizen

3) hope change- hitler- Obama

4) false flag that changed economies America- 9/11. Germany-german parliment burning-suspected communist act of terrorism

5) America- implementation of the Patriot Act. Germany-decree"for the protection of the people and the state"

6) loss of freedom for americans-germans

should i keep going on? i mean not saying that you dont read your text books, but it is so obvious on what is going on that it makes me sick!

Our governement has been the same for 233 years.

Why now is it not favorable to the people? I have no idea what you're talking about. How is our citizens electing our officials to represent us anything remotely close to National Socialism?

And don't you think it a bit differen t that Clinton signed the NAFTA bill wheras Germany post WW1 was forced with the Versailles treaty? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The fact that you make that comparison really shows that you're grasping for any connection you can toward America being Nazi. What did the Versailles treaty have to do with the Nazi party for that matter? There was no Nazi party in 1918.

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I do see a slight comparison to the Reichstaag fire and the Patriot act after 9/11, but they're far from the same thing. That's even assuming that 9/11 was in fact US supported. We don't know that for sure. It makes for great conversation but that's all it is.

I wouldn't exactly put the Patriot act on par with having a Fuhrer

reply to post by spinalremain


i see that you dont want to see the correlation, between what happened to the german people and that of the american people of today. as well you probably couldnt put the fall of rome at there last days with where the U.S sits presently. so i shall end this discussion as history is all in the eyes of the beholder my friend. cya around.

I don't see a correlation because there isn't one

One government was Socialist with a maniacal dictator running the entire country while rapidly expanding throughout Europe and North Africa breaking every law known to man.

The other Government is a representative republic. We have a president who serves a term of 4 years. 2 term max.

One is fascist, one is capitalist.

Cya round

Originally posted by allprowolfy
reply to post by spinalremain

 

i see that you dont want to see the correlation, between what happened to the german people and that of the american people of today. as well you probably couldnt put the fall of rome at there last days with where the U.S sits presently. so i shall end this discussion as history is all in the eyes of the beholder my friend. cya around.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

The similarities are so obvious,someone would have to try not to see them,or be such a blind Obama follower as to actually think this will be a good thing...and I don't even want to talk about that.

Thanks for your comments.

Propaganda at its finest.

Although, Obama is not Hitler, like Bush before him he is merely a tool of the Bankers. I would not compare Obama to any dictator personally, but, I would compare the propaganda of this administration to the same style of propaganda any absolute ruler uses.

Different leaders but similar indoctrination ploys.

It would be interesting to see if any American President ever took absolute power over the United States. Honestly, I do not see it happening. It would be more likely that we could have a revolving-door of dictators so to speak.

Just remember though that Obama is no different than Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr, or any President that we have had in quite some time.

Obama, like all of our Presidents since 1913, is only a poster boy assuming the illusion of leadership. When in reality his administration is under the direction of the very people that print your money. I would say that Timothy Geithner or Ben Bernanke have more authority than their puppets.

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Originally posted by Miraj
Because nobody has used Hitler vilify a politician before! You must be right! Obama is the reincarnation of Hitler!

No, just maybe the figure head of the 4th Reich. What I found interesting is that from the roman empire to nazi germany to the modern day USA... symbols on money, stamps and other things are the exact same... the fasci / mace and so on.

The Roman empire rules today part#1:
video.google.com...#

Another mind blowing set of videos that may be somewhat OT, but I think relevant to the "big picture":

LUCAS AT BRAVE NEW BOOKS – THE DESTROYER STAR AND THE FUTURE OF MANKIND

the-rabbits-hole.com...

Thought provoking if nothing else, IMO the Lucas videos paint a pretty complete picture of why the elite (illuminati) do what they do.. For all our sake, I hope he is wrong because they're plans dont include 'us'.

AAMOF one of you dedicated ATSers should post a thread about the rabbits hole videos if it hasn't already been done.

'A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gate is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.''
-- Cicero, 45 BC