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Originally posted by sos37
Come Novermber or when the SHTF because of this health care bill, I'll be the one pointing the finger and laughing at you all, just the way you are all doing right now to those of us who opposed this bill because we were genuinely concerned about how it would affect this great nation.
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Originally posted by sos37
Come Novermber or when the SHTF because of this health care bill, I'll be the one pointing the finger and laughing at you all, just the way you are all doing right now to those of us who opposed this bill because we were genuinely concerned about how it would affect this great nation.
This sort of negative wishful thinking I will never understand...
Originally posted by dr dodge
I have the bill and am trying to sort thru it. 2074 pages of short statements, cross references, and such
but right off the top, I just have one serious reservation about it more than anything else
Its mainly a giant amendment to the already impossible to decode IRS tax "law"
you know, the one law that really wasn't passed anyway
so, how nice to even complicate the system more, provide dozens of new loopholds that will exempt, restrict, give grants, divert more cash from persons pockets, and add more employees to the gov for administration
get the bill and read it...then we can all discuss intelligently
dr
Originally posted by sos37
Come Novermber or when the SHTF because of this health care bill, I'll be the one pointing the finger and laughing at you all, just the way you are all doing right now to those of us who opposed this bill because we were genuinely concerned about how it would affect this great nation.
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Wait until taxpayers find out how much more they will be paying in taxes...
...and premiums.
Health care reform does not increase premiums and boot people out of their coverage
On Nov. 30, 2009, the Congressional Budget Office, or CBO, released a detailed analysis on how health insurance premiums might be affected by the Senate Democrats' health care bill. The CBO is an independent agency whose estimates for pending legislation are considered nonpartisan and rigorous.
The CBO reported that, for most people, premiums would stay about the same, or slightly decrease. This was especially true for people who get their insurance through work. (Health policy wonks call these the large group and small group markets.) People who have to go out and buy insurance on their own (the individual market) would see rates increase by 10 to 13 percent. But more than half of those people -- 57 percent, in fact -- would be eligible for subsidies to help them pay for the insurance. People who get subsidies would see their premiums drop by more than half, according to the CBO. So most people would see their premiums stay the same or potentially drop. Politifact.c om
With so little new information available, I see no reason for the upturn
Originally posted by lee anoma
Anyone looking to these bozos for direction will be in a frenzied panic without even reading paragraph one.