Nancy Pelosi Wants ObamaCare To Pass So We Know What Is In It

I don't expect very much debate from this thread. Just thought it was worth noting. It's been on the radio today and I grit my teeth every time I hear it!

"Nancy Pelosi Wants ObamaCare To Pass So We Know What Is In It"
March 9, 2010

PlastiGirl has put on her old thinking cap to generate some new ideas to help her get the votes she needs to pass ObamaCare. Obviously, she does not have the votes needed right now even though she claims that she does or they would have passed the Senate bill through the House in order to avoid reconciliation. Today, Plasti delivered a speech at the 2010 Legislative Conference for the National Association of Counties (NACo). This year marks the 75th anniversary of the organization.

She started her comments with, “Your common responsibilities bring you to Washington with a common cause: to strengthen the partnership between America’s counties and the federal government. It is in that spirit that I have come here today....

...("blah,blah,blah,...")

She continues

“As you are in Washington this week, we stand at the doorstep of history, ready to realize a centuries old dream, started by a Republican President, Teddy Roosevelt. He was the one who started this country thinking in this direction, and we are deeply in his debt. But, we are a hundred years late.” She went on to relate that Teddy wanted universal healthcare. She then made this preposterous claim, “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” WHAT!? They have to pass the bill so we know what is in it?! I thought they have been telling us for a year what is in this legislation. Who has ever heard of passing a bill so we can actually she what is in that bill?

From
freedomswings.wordpress.com...

I for one would like to never find out all they have planned for us,but we shall see. Obama says he wants it on his desk, ready to sign,by March 18th. I'd be surprised to see it happen that soon.

Just think of all we already know about this bill that is not in our best interests,beginning with it not being Constitutional...

Remember this?

CNSNews.com: “Madam Speaker, where specifically does the Constitution grant Congress the authority to enact an individual health insurance mandate?”

Pelosi: “Are you serious? Are you serious?”

CNSNews.com: “Yes, yes I am.”

Pelosi then shook her head before taking a question from another reporter. Her press spokesman, Nadeam Elshami, then told CNSNews.com that asking the speaker of the House where the Constitution authorized Congress to mandated that individual Americans buy health insurance as not a "serious question."

“You can put this on the record,” said Elshami. “That is not a serious question. That is not a serious question.”

From
www.cnsnews.com...


Anyone think they won't find a way to pass this?

reply to post by On the Edge


I'm sorry for this, and it exposes my own personal weakness.

Pelosi is trash. If she was one of my relatives I wouldn't let her in the door.

I have heard so much about healthcare that I am finally to the point that they should either pass the damn thing ASAP or just throw it in the trash.

Seems like it is ok if people are still unemployed and losing their jobs, houses, cars etc, just as long as we have healthcare.

I love it!

They have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.

You know why? Because like every other bill they've voted on, none of them has bothered to read it!

Heck, it's worked so well for them so far.





Plastigirl, I like that one.

She avoided the Constitution question because deep down this gutter pig knows what she is doing is unconstitutional.

She deserves more than is fit to post on a public message board.

reply to post by FortAnthem


"Plastigirl" is probably the nicest thing I've ever heard to her referred as!

I don't ever want to know what is in this bill!

I can't keep up with the ones already passed.

(Remember "H.R.1"? Anyone else think it strange that they basically start all over with the number "1"?)

I'd like to make a list of all the ones they've added since Obama got in office,but it's too depressing. Between those and the Executive Orders,...*sigh*...

reply to post by On the Edge


I think the disease has crept up again for Pelosi, I guess she can never hope to get rid of it.

That old foot in mouth disease.

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reply to post by endisnighe


I like what you're saying,but that picture is just gross!

Thanks,though!

I believe there is an earlier thread on this in "Breaking Political News."

Here:

abovetopsecret.com

Sorry. I realize yours beats that one by about an hour.

In that case I'll add my 2 cents:

Nobody knows all or even most of what's in the bill. That's because nobody's read it.

That is our mental laziness as a nation.

She's saying if people really knew what was in the bill they'd support it.

Can't say she's wrong unless you know.

[edit on 13-3-2010 by Sestias]

This summary has been posted many places before,but it bears repeating. These are SOME of the things that are known,and not likely to change.

Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!

Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!

Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!

Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)

Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.

Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.

Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.

Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)

Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.

Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)

Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens

Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.

Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.

Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.

Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.

Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.

Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.

Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll

Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll

Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).

Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.

Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that.)

Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."

Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)

Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.

Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.

Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.

Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!

Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.

Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.

Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!

Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.

Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.

Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.

Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.

Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.

Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).

Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?

Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.

Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.

Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.

Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.

Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.

Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.

Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.

Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.

Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.