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The so-called 'birthers' movement, which questions whether Barack Obama was born in the US and is therefore a legitimate president, has cropped up on the campaign.
A representative in Arizona's state senate has even introduced a 'birth certificate bill' because she says constituents are so worried.
The White House has consistently dismissed the issue. Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives.
And supporters at one of Hayworth's rallies openly questioned the president's right to be in office.
Alan Becker said: "If it was in question and someone questioned me about my birth certificate I would give it to them and say 'Here it is'.
"Why can't he do that?
Originally posted by Rising Against
The article goes on to say.....
And supporters at one of Hayworth's rallies openly questioned the president's right to be in office.
Alan Becker said: "If it was in question and someone questioned me about my birth certificate I would give it to them and say 'Here it is'.
"Why can't he do that?
Personally I’m not 100% educated on this issue but I don't see any reason/proof to show why some people seem to think that Obama was born outside of the USA.
If anyone has any then I’d love to see it but right now I don't buy it one piece and in fact it just seems like some lame ass excuse for people to hate him.
news. sky.com
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[edit on 27-2-2010 by Rising Against]
the issue isnt rearing its ugly head 'again'
it never stopped rearing
Originally posted by nixie_nox
I don't know if this is a legitimate source or not. But if it is remotely true, it is not a big whopping surprise coming out of AZ. The conservative flagship coming of the US. Ran into a lot of bigotry and racism out there.
Funny, I wonder what excuse the bigots would of come up with if Obama's father was a natural born citizen?
I find the birthers so embarrassing. Obviously an excuse instead of outwardly showing their xenophobia.
Originally posted by 814ck0u7
courts throwing cases out before they get to trial proves NOTHING, even if they say the case has no merits. (...) in order for a case to be fully washed out, the evidence needs to be displayed and both sides need to make their case.
simply waving people away isnt proving them wrong
Originally posted by oldspeak
reply to post by Rising Against
"The White House has consistently dismissed the issue. Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."
OH? Then how is this possible?
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
hawaii.gov...
I would love to hear a really good explanation as to why he should not just show the original long form birth certificate. I think he probably was born in Hawaii but would also really like to know what he is hiding. It also bothers me that all that we know about him is what he has told us.
Originally posted by Koolcdj69
And let's say out of some crazy miracle they find that he WASN'T born in the USA. What's that prove? That means you voted in a non-citizen because you believed in him, is that so wrong?
Originally posted by vkey08
Why yes it is wrong, it is a violation of Federal Law set down in our Constitution... Personally I'd like to see all new elections held if it turned out that was the case
Originally posted by converge
Originally posted by vkey08
Why yes it is wrong, it is a violation of Federal Law set down in our Constitution... Personally I'd like to see all new elections held if it turned out that was the case
It doesn't matter what you'd like to see or not, what matters is what's in the Constitution as you pointed out in regards to the natural born citizen clause. You can't, on one hand, say the Constitution must be followed and then make up your own laws because you don't like the party that's in power right now. There is nothing in the Constitution about having new elections in case the President is removed from office.
The 25th Amendment makes it clear that if the President resigns, dies or is removed from office then the Vice President shall become President.
Originally posted by converge
Originally posted by 814ck0u7
courts throwing cases out before they get to trial proves NOTHING, even if they say the case has no merits. (...) in order for a case to be fully washed out, the evidence needs to be displayed and both sides need to make their case.
All the cases have been “thrown out” because they have no merit. You're making out to be like that's just an irrelevant detail. I'm curious, if you want a Court to hear your case how do you intend that to happen without the cases having merit or standing?
simply waving people away isnt proving them wrong
No one has to prove them wrong, it's the birthers that have to come up with the evidence and legal arguments to back up their claims if they want the Courts to hear them and act upon that evidence.