Retired Air Force Colonel Robert B. Willingham saw UFO Crash

A retired U.S. Air Force colonel and former fighter jet pilot says that he chased a UFO across West Texas and watched it crash along the Rio Grande River near Del Rio, Texas.
Colonel Robert B. Willingham says as he watched in stunned silence as the UFO plunged toward the Rio Grande River, plowing into the ground just south of Langtry, Texas and digging out a 300-yard long furrow before finally coming to rest alongside a sandy hill.

Decorated World War II and Korean War veteran Robert B. Willingham returned to the scene of the crash a few hours later and saw a metallic object unlike any aircraft he had ever seen “sticking into the side of a hill.”

Dr. Bruce Maccabee, world-class UFO researcher, says this is "One of the world's most interesting UFO crash retrieval stories.

Willingham estimated that the object was traveling at 2,000 miles per hour, and he saw it make a sudden 90-degree turn, without slowing down. As the UFO streaked toward the Texas-Mexico border, Willingham received permission to break from the formation and pursue the object in his F-86 fighter. Following the object’s vapor trail, Willingham followed it down to near Del Rio, Texas, where he saw it suddenly begin to wobble and descend rapidly.

As the pilot watched in stunned silence, the UFO plunged toward the Rio Grande River, plowing into the ground just south of Langtry, Texas and digging out a 300-yard long furrow before finally coming to rest alongside a sandy hill. Uriarte said, “Willingham had heard a lot of discussion about UFOs, and now suddenly, he had one down on the ground. As he flew over the awesome scene, he decided that he was going to switch planes and return there as quickly as possibly to look at the thing up close.”

Source

reply to post by gortex


whoa! those things were dropping like flies during that era...someone/something even more powerful must've been bringing them down if they were made from almost indestructible material

so does this mean the mexican gov't is in on this ET club as well?

Nice post

These old flying saucers didn't seem very reliable or sturdy though. If they came from another world they must have been highly advanced, yet they often crashed and smashed into little pieces. Doesn't that seem odd?

reply to post by cripmeister


There is a theory that changes made to radar technology around the fifties interfered with the guidance and control systems of UFOs , causing some of the crashes , others may have been shot down .

Well, we live now in an interesting time, it seems that more military personnel from the 50's and 60's era that have witnessed UFO's are going public with their experiences.

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by cripmeister

 

There is a theory that changes made to radar technology around the fifties interfered with the guidance and control systems of UFOs , causing some of the crashes , others may have been shot down .

Yeah I've heard those explanations before of course. Like so many other explanations in UFOlogy they're convenient but they don't really make sense. Kind of like taking down a modern jet fighter with a sling shot.

reply to post by cripmeister


For years people were barred from using mobile phones on airplanes for fear they could interfere with the systems operating the plane , same principle really .
There is also a theory that because UFOs use anti-gravity propulsion they are unstable due to fluctuations in the Earths gravitational field .

We always seem to assume that all ETs are all knowing creatures with far superior technology , whereas they may only be a few hundred or thousand years ahead of us , and have similar occasional technical malfunctions as we do .

While I do not doubt the veracity of the claims made by the retired air force colonel, I have to point out that the idea of a species crossing an interstellar void , comming into our atmosphere, and then encountering a massive failiure of propulsion and lift, are miniscule. Just traveling at all at the speeds of which these things are capable, would put more physical stress on the vehicle than simple exposure to gravity, which lets face it the damn thing must have come into contact with at some point previous to this incident.

reply to post by TrueBrit


What if these craft are just every day runabouts , shuttles from a base on a Planet , Moon or mother ship and are not built to travel at light speed or great distances .

I have to point out that the idea of a species crossing an interstellar void , comming into our atmosphere, and then encountering a massive failiure of propulsion and lift, are miniscule.

On what evidence do you base that claim ?.

These UFO's were thought to have been outsourcing their braking system thru Toyota thus when the hit the gravity bumps near earth---crash.

What happened to the piece of wreckage recovered by Colonel Willingham?

[edit on 2/13/2010 by iforget]

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by cripmeister

 

For years people were barred from using mobile phones on airplanes for fear they could interfere with the systems operating the plane , same principle really .

Not really, unless we're using ET technology in our commercial airplanes.
en.wikipedia.org...

There is also a theory that because UFOs use anti-gravity propulsion they are unstable due to fluctuations in the Earths gravitational field.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

We always seem to assume that all ETs are all knowing creatures with far superior technology , whereas they may only be a few hundred or thousand years ahead of us , and have similar occasional technical malfunctions as we do .

Technical malfunctions is a possibility.



[edit on 13-2-2010 by cripmeister]

reply to post by gortex


Pick a direction of travel from here to someplace else in the galaxy, outside the solar system. Now try and plot a course which gets you there without encountering any form of gravitational disturbance. If you can do it, then you are out thinking all the scientists here and thats for damned sure. Are you suggesting that you believe that this vehicle , capable of extreme speeds, has only encountered any gravitational effects when inside the earths gravity well ? You have to be kidding me, thats the most badly reasoned idea I have ever heard. Unless you think this UFO is from earth ?
If however this craft is extra terrestrial in origin , then the chances of it never having come across gravity which is stronger than ours here on earth are miniscule. The chances of a race developing an engine that works on physics rather than chemistry but NOT being able to stand the preasure of a gravity well.... Its lunacy . Makes no sense.

Originally posted by iforget
What happened to the piece of wreckage recovered by Colonel Willingham?

That's the million dollar question. If he has a piece of something not from Earth it would surely be interesting to analyze in a lab. I tried to search a little bit but haven't found anything on that yet, still looking though.

I'm having difficulty picturing a 500+mp/h jet pursuing a 2000+mp/h UFO and being there when it crashed. I'm a fan of Macabee and if he finds it interesting it will be. Still, it's a hard scene to imagine...

reply to post by cripmeister


Hi!,

Have spoken to several commercial pilots and a fighter pilot regarding use of mobile phones on flights - the reason they were banned was because the stations on earth couldn't track (and therefore, charge) the user.

There was also a ssociological element as well - who wants to be trapped next to a loud mouthed business person for 10 hours or more bragging about his /her latest big deal? Ever heard a conversations saying 'I really f....d' up' ?

Sorry to meander off topic....old hippies tend to do this especially when watching that amazing arrow that keeps moving on the screen....

Regarding the crash - maybe their designers were using feet instead of metres when they designed their craft?

Peace!

Originally posted by cripmeister
Nice post

These old flying saucers didn't seem very reliable or sturdy though. If they came from another world they must have been highly advanced, yet they often crashed and smashed into little pieces. Doesn't that seem odd?

Maybe the craft was "crashed" intentionally. Perhaps it was an unmanned probe w/self destruct....to prevent it (advanced technology) from falling into the hands of Earthlings.

Just a thought

Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by cripmeister
Nice post

Maybe the craft was "crashed" intentionally.

Just a thought

I have explore this possibility concerning the Roswell case, and it seems to me very plausible. Ask yourself why UFOs have flashing lights, in the first place? To draw attention?

How did this UFO draw attention? By flying past a very guarded B 47, that's how! If these "Intelligent" pilots of the UFOs have been around for some time then they would have known all about Military Security! Its not that it crashed, it was that it crashed in front of credible witnesses!

The problem is that we always want to assign human being qualities to something that is obviously not a human being event. Get out of the box!
These are not human beings we are dealing with. It has been suggested that these "Alien Pilots" are more akin to Bio, Computerized, Robots, and if that is the case then you can not judge their actions or in actions on human being behavior, period. You could never imagine yourself crashing a craft into the ground for a ulterior reason, because you are a human being.
If technology were more advanced, you would choose to use it to carry on any motives you may have, removing you from harms way.

What would be the motive to crashing a UFO in front of witnesses? Ill give a scenario:

Two children are playing on a playground, happily, but unknown to the children there is a adult who is watching them. This adult does not like the children because they are playing on the playground he used to play on and he believes "childishly" the playground is still his. He wants it back, but can not do this until the children are gone. One day he decides the only way to make the children leave is if they kill themselves. If they did this, there would be no police report implicating him because they did it themselves, and no blame can come to the old man.

How does this old man get the children to kill each other? Without the children seeing what the man is doing, he wrap's a loaded pistol in gift wrapping and tosses it onto the playground. One of the children finds it and hides it from the other. The next thing you know they are fighting over the gift, until one day another mysterious "Gift" arrives, only to be found by the other child. One way or another, they end up shooting each other in the form of a global nuclear holocaust. The man gets his playground back, in time, and the children are gone: End.

To me, these UFOs are that gun, are the "Trojan Horse" of mankind. I would suggest our great advancement is not due to wars, but to back door technology whose only real reason is to confuse us with control and technology, until we kill ourselves. Who can really doubt this is happening today?

A bio robot has no choice in what it does in "life", it only follows its programing and spouts what it was programed to relay. But even in saying that, when a Bio Bot says something you can rest assured it was programed to say it, and as with any good disinformation it must contain some truths in it, to be believable.

"I cant imagine any truth in what you say", well then, you have no imagination, at all.






[edit on 13-2-2010 by All Seeing Eye]

[edit on 13-2-2010 by All Seeing Eye]

Lets say I see a ufo crash. I go back to base to get an airplane I can investigate with. You know what else I grab? A camera.

Originally posted by iforget
Lets say I see a ufo crash. I go back to base to get an airplane I can investigate with. You know what else I grab? A camera.

You might think that to be true today, but back then cameras were not as plentiful as today, and a little more complicated to operate.

Originally posted by reject

so does this mean the mexican gov't is in on this ET club as well?

oh, most definitely. No matter if you believe the reports of the crash in Coyame, there's still plenty of info on the Mexican governments interest in the UFO phenomenon......

video.google.com...#