MUFON: Invading ET/Alien fleet detected near Saturn?

What to think about these declarations brought back from the MUFON? It is possible to verify the presence of these presumed objects in the orbit of Saturn and approach to the Earth?
Can some astronomer verify if, on these RA/Dec coordinates, there are anomalous presences of objects not identified?




A confirm of previous announce?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think that there is urgent need of astronomers!!

Source:
mufoncms.com...

MUFON:
“It avails little if you laugh. The words of Mr. Alex Collier of 20-mile ship at 1.5 mln miles off South Pole were proved by a strange craft recorded on WWT and sky-map.org before January 1st. (together with some smaller objects). After New Year's Day (exact day unknown)were recorded additional several big objects and smaller ones, again on both WWT and sky-map. Google sky does not support the polar regions anyway. below are the coordinates, starting with the first object. I am attaching some more impressive photos. You would do better to download WWT worldwide online telescope and to continue monitoring the South pole region for newly appeared objects. There is nothing good in those ships, if you go thru all the ET stuff on Project Camelot. Most likely they are from either Orion or Draco empires, both reptiles and hostile. The human-looking Pleiadians and Andromedans seem still do not intervene and are somewhere beyond Mars, most probably in Saturn system. For more, check Project Camelot.”

Coordinates RA, Dec

19 25 12, -89 46 03 - first big object recorded

16 19 35, -88 43 10 - cylindrical object

02 26 39, -89 43 13 - circular

08 50 47, -89 38 09 - curved

14 38 50, -88 40 42 - curved

14 59 06, -88 21 24 - curved

23 13 00, -88 53 11 - curved

19 26 51, -88 42 38 - cylindrical, looking like ship with traces

Alex Collier's statements of 3 different objects:

1. Cassini project classified, because of all the mothership activity filmed in Saturn system.
2. a 1.5 mln miles off the South pole a 20 mile craft that is sat in a stationary. NASA and other organizations telescopes have been monitoring it for 8 months, they watch its trajectory to us. It is now
stationary and are craft going in and out of this 20-mile structure.
3. very large planetary structure coming in 18 degrees RA of Neptune's orbit. it should be visible sometimes next year.


[edit on 16-1-2010 by Imagir]

Well, i hope its something. it looks like something, and if its coming, its about time!

Lol, seriously though, i really really want something big to happen soon. its been building up, this huge anxious feeling that something needs to happen. ever since a few weeks ago.

I'm not really sure, but picture it self reminds of me that newly discovered Saturn's mega ring of dust visible in infra-red. maybe it's just me

The first photo reminds me of one of the ships on the ceiling of the Egyptian building. You know, the ship, helicopter, the jest , the sub and his thing.

Interesting.

I just do not know what to make of it. So I remain on the fence here. Simply because I just do not know what is true or not.

Also, I have not seen Alex Collier properly debunked as of yet...so I am still patiently awaiting that.

Just because people disagree with him does not mean hes wrong, it simply means hes controversial.

So, until he is PROPERLY debunked, I will continue to heed his warnings (with a grain of salt of course).

Originally posted by Imagir
Source:
mufoncms.com...

MUFON:
“It avails little if you laugh. The words of Mr. Alex Collier of 20-mile ship at 1.5 mln miles off South Pole were proved by a strange craft recorded on WWT and sky-map.org before January 1st. ... For more, check Project Camelot.”

The above quote, and the current title of this thread (i.e. "MUFON:Invading ET/Alien fleet detected near Saturn"), may mislead many members of ATS.

To be clear, the relevant text quoted at the start of this thread as appearing on the MUFON website is NOT a conclusion expressed by, or endorsed by, MUFON itself.

The relevant text is simply quoting what someone has submitted to MUFON via the witness reporting case management system.

The relevant MUFON sighting submission form (which appears here) is clearly not designed merely to share stories or claims by third parties.

In other words, anyone can write anything they like in the relevant box and it will appear on MUFON's website.

That box is supposed to be used to give a long description by a UFO witness of their personal UFO sighting.

The instructions that accompany the relevant MUFON reporting form state:

Please tell us your story. Start from the beginning and describe everything exactly as it happened from beginning to end. Be as detailed as you can.

Once you have finished writing your narrative please go back, read it, and make sure it includes the following points:

1. Where were you and what were you doing at the time?
2. What made you first notice the object?
3. What did you think the object was when you first noticed it?
4. Describe the object and its actions and motions.
5. Describe your feelings, reactions and actions, during and after sighting the object.
6. How did you lose sight of the object?
DO NOT Put Personal Information in your description as it CAN BE VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC.

It seems someone has misused the MUFON reporting form to get more publicity for Alex Collier's claims and Project Camelot.

This is not the first time that the MUFON system appears to have been misused by the same person/group. A few searches quickly revealed very similar tactics in at least one earlier thread on ATS.

Claims by Alex Collier have been discussed in other threads, but I thought it worth stressing this basic point.

All the best,

Isaac




[edit on 16-1-2010 by IsaacKoi]

reply to post by Imagir


Are there any other pictures that you can furnish us with? I'd hate to think that I'd wind up believing it is something it may not be based on a combination of these inconclusive photos coupled with my desire to obtain proof of us not being alone in the galaxy.
I'm not saying that it's not what these gentlemen claim, but I'm not saying it is. It's just too difficult to tell.
The part that bugs me is his nonchalant statements based on his 'knowledge' of alien races and their whereabouts...how does he know that and where is the proof?

It's the Zentradi!! Do we have the SDF-1 hidden here on earth somewhere? Better get it fired up!!

Seriously...it could be anything.

At last! Even if they do want war at least i can say, "I told you so" for once.

reply to post by divinetragedy79


Greetings Starfighter! You have been recruited to defend the frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada.

are those the HUGE cigar shaped ships that appeared in a picture supposedly taken by Cassini a few years ago? I'll see if I can find the thread about it on here...

those things were like the size of several earths!

reply to post by Imagir


lets say it is an invasion and they want war remember the only thing that separates them from us is technology none the less they are not above death they can be killed we would just need to figure out what there weaknesses are i'm sure they have one there not gods! "Valhalla Awaits Me"

Alex Collier needs debunking ? really ?

Why are we using the words Invading here ? .. oh I remember .. this is a Alex Collier post.

OH SH... They are on there way ! I better go plant a garden and send happy thoughts to the sky !

Wait how do we know that these "ships" are not holograms ?

Okay kidding a side I would like you to meet Ralph .. I mean Alex
theyfly.com...

reply to post by Tim00


Saturn is not in South Pole region. These pictures are all in South Pole region, please check by yourselves the coordinates. If you do not have WWT installed (it is quite slow, needs a lot of RAM) you could use the online sky-map.org, very easy to operate by simply copy/paste the couple of coordinates in the search box and click the button but there it is more difficult to discover new objects, since it is not looking like sphere and other disadvantages. The professional one is undoubtedly WWT. Google sky doesn't show the polar regions.

On some questions whether that is 3 years ago picture from Cassini, I will only answer this: it is not, because it was not on WWT/sky-map before January 1, 2010!

[edit on 16-1-2010 by Gliese581]

reply to post by nophun


i'm playing along someone has to give a good pre-war speech and i been waiting a long time to rally up the troops! lol

reply to post by metalholic


Here, can't get much better than this:

I'd really love to think that this was actualy on the happen. BUT I cant trust anything that alex says.
Whats important here is accuracy and ensuring that only scientificaly supportable incidents get the attention of the media. With idiots like him ranting about the intergalactic zip code these things supposedly come from, its no wonder most folks think that UFO research is for goofy hippies with acid fried grey matter. Gives us all a bad name. If there is something out there, we need to know sure. What we do not need is spurious unsupportable claims made by fat underqualified scam artists.

reply to post by TrueBrit


Well said.
Most of the people who have 'come forward' to share their 'stories' of aliens with the public have really done more harm than good.
Now, I'm not saying that all of them are kooks and liars and weirdos, but the vast majority of them are, and not only did they do a disservice to those who's stories are legitimate, but they did overwhelming damage to the ufo-search culture as a whole.
It's a shame really, that so many people just jumped on the abductee bandwagon in order to make a name for themselves.

reply to post by TrueBrit


i say to you that if the government knew of an alien invasion and possible takeover that they like anything else would not tell us but let us live the rest of our life as we know it left in ignorance so that people could enjoy the last bit of happiness if any there is left for warning us of a innevitable doom possibly or invasion people would realize all the religions of the world have been lies civlization would be... there are no words for it but it wouldnt be the way it is now infact worse the only way were ever gonna know of something like this happening for real is some guy unheard of or looked at as a loon coming out of the wood work with some # people wont believe even if it was true no one would take it seriously until a craft the size of a city like in id4 was hoverin over ur head

[edit on 16-1-2010 by metalholic]

reply to post by Matthew Dark


Its fustrating for the researcher , but also it is stunting our development as a species. Every person who invents something like this , or embelishes perfectly sound information, with utter bunkum, is making it ten times harder for people to get at the truth. When we discover or are allowed to reveal the discovery of extra terrestrial intelligence, we'll look back on these douchebags and laugh, but for now they are holding back the work of thousands of people , mostly volunteers, who just want to know what the hell is out there. All he is , is a red herring farmer.