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Want to know how primitive man would draw advanced technology he saw?

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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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This is how:









BUT WAIT... THERE'S MORE TO THIS

THESE were not made thousands of years ago. These were made in modern times, by aboriginal Australians who were not modernized.

What's interesting here to the community is that we often look at cave paintings and think we see ufos or aliens. What these cave paintings represent is a real life contact between primitive and advanced cultures, in the eyes of the primitive culture. So it provides a template, if you will, for what they would draw. Replace the British colonists with aliens crash landing or visiting, and we would get something like this.

What the community can do is use this as a template to look at primitive man's cave paintings. Obviously these primitive people took great care in describing all the parts of their drawings. They saw them, studied them from afar, and drew them. If aboriginals in Australia could do it in the 1900s and 1800s, then I feel that any primitive man across the world would draw something similar for aliens.

So... I invite the community to look out and find these drawings. Things that look like this, and compare. For eons we've only guessed what a primitive man would view an advanced culture as. Here, we have a template to look into our ancestor's eyes. We now know what we're looking for!

Please, give your comments and comparison images. It's your opportunity to look.

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LINK! forgot it!

www.neatorama.com...

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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Primitive perhaps but these particular drawings are not all that "ancient".

HIDDEN in rugged ranges in north-west Arnhem Land, a spectacular treasure-trove of Aboriginal rock art is set to rewrite the history of Australia. In a find that has stunned archaeologists and anthropologists, a vast wall of about 1500 paintings chronicles the history of Aboriginal contact with outsiders, from Macassan prows and European sailing ships to 19th-century steamships and a World War II battleship. Alongside exquisite rock art more than 15,000 years old are paintings that capture some of the 19th and 20th centuries' most important technological innovations - a biplane, bicycle, car and rifle - as well as portraits of church ministers, sea captains and traders.

www.australianarchaeologicalassociation.com.au...

www.smh.com.au...

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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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OP says that they aren't ancient. They are 'modern' so to speak but made by people who weren't modernized. They hadn't seen these vessels before.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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I fully agree, I believe if they had seen some sort of ufo, or aliens, they most certainly would have drawed it out or carved it out very well, and in very good detail. Unlike some of the things people try to say they drawed on cave walls and such, kindergardeners could have did a better job!



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Ok. I guess I did miss the point. But the sailing vessels are unambiguously sailing vessels, steamship an unambiguous steamship. Not much room for interpretation unlike truly ancient shamanistic drawings of fantastical creatures.


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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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I think what the OP is saying is; maybe they drew those fantastical creatures because they literaly saw them.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Removed Pic. Good Work Phantom!!!


Quite an amazing video!

Here are a couple of samples of pictures to be found here.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cd7e6ea4bf3.jpg[/atsimg]

This cave painting was found in Itolo, Tanzania. It's approx 29,000 yrs old. Notice the obvious UFO-shaped objects as well as the objects which both of them appear to be dropping from the bottom

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8a41560bade5.jpg[/atsimg]

This cave painting is from Tassili, Sahara Desert in North Africa. It dates back to 6000 B.C. The figures do not look human. Notice the flying disk in the sky.




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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:44 PM
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How about this?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ee2a19a31d36.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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wow..

ive also seen some ancient photos where they do like et's and crafts before...

good work on your reply...

huggs



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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heyo I saw a credible debunk of that one, it's actually a vase, with a lotus flower in it.

Deaf alien has an interesting one, which I saw already. Could be a representation of spirits, specially if drawn by someone under influence.
Where is it from, again?

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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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huggs,,

iin search of the old lenors nemoy shows had some interesting old photos..



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by heyo

Originally posted by TheoOne



www.abovetopsecret.com...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/239897f07ae7.jpg[/atsimg]
This one looks pretty interesting.

To me it looks like perhaps it was an unfinished drawing and the black 'eyes' could be parts of egyptian persons heads. It just seems out of place and the drawing seems a different style to the other glyphs and seems unfinished like it was meant to be something else or has worn away from what it originally was.

The photo posted after you is hard to say what it is as it's not posted in any context. It could be anything really, not necessarily extraterrestrial.


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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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Anyone who has seen the primitive art at Lascaux (the 15,000-year-old cave paintings in France) knows that primitive Man was an astute observer who was entirely capable of rendering exact and extraordinary representations of his subject matter...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/60586236459e.jpg[/atsimg]

The artwork above, for instance, was rendered with soots and powdered ores on the ceiling of a pitch black cave, probably illuminated by dim and flickering firelight. I would challenge any professional artist today to accomplish similar renderings on an overhead surface with the same pigments under identical lighting conditions, and do so from memory, with no example photos for reference.

Such primitive art represents nothing less than masterworks of perspective, proportion and anatomical detail, and they are in fact classified as such today.

This is just one reason that I very seriously doubt the learned opinions of modern anthropologists who claim that early Man was incapable of accurately depicting advanced technology (such as UFOs) or otherworldly visitors. These learned scientists pretty much insist that rock paintings of flying saucers and bizarre humanoids are merely imaginative depictions of supernatural "nature spirits" or other such nonsense.

The cavemen who rendered these works were probably thousands of years away from such abstract concepts as supernatural "nature spirits" and religion. These primitive men were immersed in the natural world — the real world — and they rendered exactly what they saw, to the best of their considerable abilities.

The odds are, if a caveman painted a picture of a flying disk, he had probably just seen a flying disk.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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I love those compassion pictures too. However, the first is two people holding a vase, and the later is essentially ghosts. There's a reason why universally basic black and white contrasting droplets going up are seen as spirits. If you look at the lower left corner, there's even a little bit of what seems to be a tomb.

The pictures made in Australia have clearly drawn parts, decorated with detail and artistic interpretation. It isn't the Simpson's sail boat over their couch. Likewise, orbs with faces going up isn't much detail. They would draw their space suits, their ships, their worlds. That's why I like Sumerian stuff more, but even that's limited.

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I agree, but bare in mind that religion is as old as painting.

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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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huggs,,

I can see the OP point and it is well taken,

but i assume in several thousands years those photos he drew could fade and deteroriate.

i know ancients photos can be questionable on the exact reason or what they were drawing.

www.alien-ufo-pictures.com...

huggs everyone



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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The Edit didn't work well...

Heyo it's actually a vase, with a lotus flower in it!
www.catchpenny.org...


Deaf alien has an interesting one. Could be a representation of spirits, specially if drawn by someone under influence.
Where is it from, again?

Doc Velocity I believe you are forgetting one VERY IMPORTANT thing. The Lascaux paintings are made by man (crô-magnon) with bigger brains than today's men.
You cannot possibly forget the spiritual dimension of the drawings. Those guys (probably my ancestors as I'm from Sarkozy-land) were closer to nature than we ever were!

IMHO it's a way of paying tribute to souls they 1)just disembodied or 2)are going to (=hunt) [+ fortune in future hunts]
a bit like saying grace before eating...



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
I agree, but bare in mind that religion is as old as painting.

No, it's not. Religion is a fairly advanced and very abstract concept requiring a complex spoken or written language for proper conveyance. The earliest cave art pre-dates complex language.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:21 PM
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They are called Wandjina petroglyphs. That's all I can get out of googling. There doesn't seem to be much information on them except from ufos and aliens websites.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Check this out...Lot of good documented UFO art in this video and others:

UFO Cave Art (History Channel)

But this is one of my favorite cave paintings:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/82a42ab3cff5.jpg[/atsimg]

Say what you want, but that looks like a depiction of a UFO taking off, complete with motion lines. That cave painting is approximately 16,000 years old, also from France.

And what the hell is that bipedal humanoid creature shot full of arrows with a penis hanging on one side and a long tail on the other?



— Doc Velocity



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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The earliest cave painting is 32,000 years old. One of the oldest religious artifact is the fat pornographic lady, which was symbolizing human desire to worship wealth and good being.

blogs.discovermagazine.com...

It's an establish idea that Australian aboriginal beliefs go back at least 60,000 years ago.


Those pictures are too simplified to be anything, when they were drawing highly detailed horses at the same time.

Also, I do not believe in the human chauvinistic view that all intelligent life must look like itself. Evolution and probability virtually make it impossible for such a thing to happen. I could easily say that this simple drawing is a man with arrows under the cloud, going from the cave (upper left), to the geometrically perfect cave, representing heaven (the lower right). Or vice versa.

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