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You truly are a nasty piece of work Traveler, regardless of how many times you hide behind your donation to the family - a most selfish act if ever I saw one after the comments you posted.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
My logic is rock solid, my reasoning is sound.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
1. The Church was definitely built to substandard building codes structurally and was especially cheaply constructed as a church as most churches go.
2. The parents were definitely negligent in dragging a three year old child out late at night during a record cold snap and cold and flu season on perhaps the most dangerous night of the year to be out.
3. The person who fired the gun knew nothing about SAFETY either.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Logic and common sense do have a tendency to be rejected by the overly emotional, superstitious and those who employ closed circular logic that only deals with partial equations with preselected answers aimed at deniability and a lack of responsibility.
Originally posted by endisnighe
What he has done was brilliant!
Playing the TOTAL hypocrite was his way of getting you to this realization that life cannot be guaranteed safe!
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE!
Originally posted by sotp
Originally posted by endisnighe
What he has done was brilliant!
Playing the TOTAL hypocrite was his way of getting you to this realization that life cannot be guaranteed safe!
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE!
No, what he has done is a disgrace. He hijacked a thread about a boy's death to make that point (if that is indeed what he was doing). That is what I have taken issue with here. If he had started a seperate thread that said something along the lines of "This shooting of a child in a Decatur church goes to show that no matter where you are, you are never truly safe" then I wouldn't have had a problem. I do however have a problem when someone behaves like an insensitive jerk just to get some attention.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The reality is my friend you haven’t a clue as to what I am doing on the thread…in large part because of an inherent need to validate your hastily formed and then preconceived initial perceptions in regards to my motivations.
1. ...the U.K. Newspaper that published it... that message of course was/is, guns are bad and the people of the U.K. should be thankful that they aren’t allowed to own them.
2. The second person to exploit this story... to demonstrate that guns are bad, that the people in America should not have them and to validate his choice as an emasculated citizen of the U.K. to have gone along with the disarming of the populace leaving it susceptible and defenseless in the face of government tyranny.
3. The third person to exploit this story was ME
I did this by purposeful emotional manipulation as well, by pushing the other hot buttons that would engage people on a purely emotional level and elicit a purely emotional response.
In reality I have taken rather graciously a lot of defaming attacks aimed at me even though the story is not about me.
...a few posts where someone has actually done some research into the incident (most of those done by me by the way) and 10 pages of posts of people emotionally reacting in largely uncivil ways to my comments.
Rage and anger unbalances people and robs them of thought.
Importantly who often will push emotional buttons in a forum are trolls, who are in fact looking to do two things, derail threads, and get people to discredit themselves and violate terms of service agreements to effectively silence dissenting voices.
The staff actually inquired early on to me privately if I had an ulterior motive as many posters who know me well here on ATS have pointed out this seems very out of character for me and they like the staff assumed there must be some method to my madness which there always is by the way. Those who had real concerns I addressed privately so they would understand. In part that’s why the staff hasn’t intervened in the thread even though a number of posters have gone way over the line as far as terms of service and why I haven’t likewise complained to the staff in regards to those infractions.
The citizens of the U.K. in fact were emotionally manipulated out of their right to bear arms by an over bearing and increasingly totalitarian government.
on a thread that in many ways has become all about me because of people’s propensity to think emotionally I am basically the only one who has not only researched the entire story but the only person to actually do anything for the victims family.
In reality I have a heart of gold and am extremely thoughtful and this is best evidenced by looking at my profile and noting the fact that over 200 people on ATS have selected me to be on their friends list.
The other reality that is escaping all of you if not for my controversial stance this thread would have died with 2 pages of identical knee jerk reactions and most of you would have never heard about this tragedy.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
What a tragedy, only the good die young though.
Proof positive religion will not save you! Did the gun kill the boy or his parents dragging a three year old to church?
Cause and effect.
I sincerely hope that in conducting your, albeit somewhat unsavory, experiment at least one portion of your rational mind has learned that you cannot pretend to play the instigator, without in reality becoming that which you are speaking against.
"World War III will be a guerilla information war, with no division
between military and civilian participation." Marshall McLuhan
Being exposed as a charlatan, regardless of your intent has backed you into a corner in which you continue to repeat the same thing over and over; well I heard you the first time, and I disagreed with your methods and your logic then and no amount of repetition is changing my mind.
Originally posted by Pr0t0
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Once again you continue to patronize me by assuming you know my emotional state, when you clearly can't take my honest word as read.
And no, I have nothing to add to your 'conspiracy' which is misplaced and has derailed a perfectly well meaning thread, which frankly should have been closed a long time ago.
Perhaps if you were to make a new thread, explaining your conspiracy in an open way in an on topic environment and not to attempt to trick other posters into proving a point for you, something you failed at here, I might review and be inclined to add my comments.
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I usually agree with you, Even Love your info!
But on this one, I think you harbor bitterness against G-d or Jeshua, The Creator of Everything.(The iron the bullet was made from, the man who shot the gun, the man who built the church, The child.) God gave us choices.
Do you think if the parents had been at at Mardi gras, it would've been better?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Like I said, I get that you are angry.
Some of the tacks on the board will always be a bit sharper than others in this regard friend. I actually proved my points quite well, and at the same time shared more relevant information on the story than any other poster.
Thanks, once again, welcome to ATS!
If you have anything on topic related to this conspiracy once again I would be delighted to discuss that with you friend.
As I know some posters are having a hard time seeing this. I made an opening post that 23 other members starred. This is not a small amount of people.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The first entity to exploit this story was the U.K. Newspaper that published it.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The second person to exploit this story in relation to this thread was the original poster
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The third person to exploit this story was ME