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COMPUTER hackers have broken into Britain's leading climate science research centre, making public thousands of private emails between top climate change scientists.
The messages – more than 2000 emails and 3000 documents – lay bare bitter disagreements about the cause of climate change.
In one email, the head of Britain's Climatic Research Unit, Phil Jones, says he is "cheered" by news of the sudden death of a prominent Australian climate sceptic, John L. Daly, who died of a heart attack at his Launceston home in 2004.
Others show scientists referring to sceptical colleagues as "prats", "charlatans" and "idiots".
The emails also acknowledge the frustration of trying to find evidence to "prove" man-made climate change.
In one email, Kevin Trenberth, a climatologist at the US Centre for Atmospheric Research, who supports the theory of man-made climate change, says: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment, and it is a travesty that we can't."
Dr Trenberth says data published last August "shows there should be even more warming... the data are surely wrong".
A new study has found the east Antarctic iceshelf, which sits behind Australia's Casey Station, has lost billions of tonnes of ice in the past three years.
Originally posted by john124
reply to post by rattan1
There is recent warming, and the deniers are pratts.
Originally posted by john124
It's pretty obvious that a lot of comments have been added to the hacked emails. The hacker doesn't exactly have credibility or ethics, as to resort to hacking, so it seems obvious to me that sceptics are the one's with an agenda that ain't science.
Originally posted by loner007
If idiots wish to believe nothing is happening then I dont see why scientists should bother trying to warn people. TO all scientists i would say desist in your efforts to get man out of this mess.
From Phil Jones:
If FOIA does ever get used by anyone, there is also IPR to consider as well. Data is covered by all the agreements we sign with people, so I will be hiding behind them.
Originally posted by loner007
If there is genuine concern for the environment, why does
Man has made its bed let him lie in it for better or for worse. Coz frankly the more people get caught offguard by climate change the more people will die and i would say thats a good thing. Less morons in the world
Originally posted by john124
reply to post by rattan1
There is recent warming, and the deniers are pratts.
This is what Phil Jones, head of CRU said. "We have 25 years or so invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it."
There is recent warming AND cooling. That's what happens. It's called weather, and the Earth has been doing it for a long time.
Can you find a single person who denies that this happens? If not, then who are you calling a denier?
I mean, if you're calling them pratts, who are they?
How is it obvious to you that the content of the emails have been "added to"?
Denialism is the employment of rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of argument or legitimate debate, when in actuality there is none. These false arguments are used when one has few or no facts to support one's viewpoint against a scientific consensus or against overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They are effective in distracting from actual useful debate using emotionally appealing, but ultimately empty and illogical assertions.