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Originally posted by Yarcofin
I will believe this when I see or hear about someone actually doing it. Someone show me a scanned copy of a cheque they received from the US Treasury department for a million dollars +... or paying off their bills this way. Someone go into their bank and try to buy a $500,000 house with your birth certificate as collateral... they'll think you're nuts. You are going to get just about as far as the people who decide not to pay their taxes because it's unconstitutional.
If this is true and everyone suddenly realized their net worth was actually $1M higher than it is, the financial system would collapse in a way far worse than what we've seen with the banking scandals in the past few years.
If something seems to good to be true, it is.
Originally posted by melroxitout
I may have missed this somewhere but... How do we discover our "number" if it is not our social security number?
Originally posted by BugByte
Also if you get out a magnify glass and look at the line where you signed your name on the back of your Social Security Number or in Canada your Social Insurance Number, you will see what you thought was just a line but in fact it's small print, and what it sais is "This is not eligibility to work in Canada/USA". Or something like that don't remember off the top of my head.
Social Security Administration From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The United States Social Security Administration (SSA)[2] is an independent agency of the United States federal government that administers Social Security, a social insurance program consisting of retirement, disability, and survivors' benefits. To qualify for these benefits, most American workers pay Social Security taxes on their earnings; future benefits are based on the employees' contributions.
Originally posted by BugByte
go to the treasury and tell them to defuse the loan with your bond certificate. The Number of your bond is posted on the back side of your Birth Certificate(Canada anyways, not sure about the US) You can do this with car payments, home payments... etc.. etc... But you can not use it to go out and buy a home... only to pay off what you owe.
The Canadian Bank Note Company is responsible for printing the paper currency of Canada. It also prints and provides document reading systems for identification cards, lottery tickets, stamps and notes for other countries, and many other security-conscious printing-related services. They are well known for their passports, driver's licenses, and other important documents for various nations and jurisdictions around the world.
Until 1923, CBN was a unit of the New York-based American Bank Note Company. It is currently based in Ottawa, Ontario.
Originally posted by BugByte
Also if you get out a magnify glass and look at the line where you signed your name on the back of your Social Security Number or in Canada your Social Insurance Number, you will see what you thought was just a line but in fact it's small print, and what it sais is "This is not eligibility to work in Canada/USA".
-Once the debtor is insolvent, the creditor has the right to evict him from the propriety which is held in collateral. The only problem for the creditor is, how to enforce the eviction? You can't deport 300 million Americans and take over the land,...
...the word premises under the international Criminal Court Act 2002- Sect 4 states:
The word premises includes a place and a conveyance.
Why check with the International Criminal Court Act? Because on June 8, 2007 under Secy. Of Ag. Bruce Knight speaking at the World Pork Expo in Des Moines is quoted as saying "We have to live by the same international rules were expecting other people to do." Throughout the entire Draft National Animal Identification System Users Guide land is referred to as a premises and not property. A Premises has no protection under the Constitution of the United States while property always has the exclusive rights of the owner tied to it. Property rights are protected by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution.
The word Premise is a synonym for the word tenement. A definition of the word tenement in law is: Property such as land held by one person leasing it to another.
Websters New World Dictionary 1960 College Edition defines Premises as the part of a deed or lease that states its reason the parties involved and the property in conveyance. Webster then defines conveyance as the transfer of ownership of real property from one person to another. It is quite obvious that the bureaucrats in Washington had a very good reason to use the term premises and never mention PROPERTY. "http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm"
Wouldn't you like some clarification before signing up?
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Originally posted by Yarcofin
I will believe this when I see or hear about someone actually doing it. Someone show me a scanned copy of a cheque they received from the US Treasury department for a million dollars +... or paying off their bills this way. Someone go into their bank and try to buy a $500,000 house with your birth certificate as collateral... they'll think you're nuts. You are going to get just about as far as the people who decide not to pay their taxes because it's unconstitutional.
If this is true and everyone suddenly realized their net worth was actually $1M higher than it is, the financial system would collapse in a way far worse than what we've seen with the banking scandals in the past few years.
If something seems to good to be true, it is.
Originally posted by Red Dawn 09
Lets assume that from your birth you have been given a number. And that number has a dollar value on it. How much someone else thought you would make in an average lifetime. And this amount of money is in the form of a "pledge". I have done quite a bit of research on this subject and can provide some credable info to be digested.
MASSIVE Copy-and-paste removed.
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[edit on 8-9-2009 by SkepticOverlord]
Originally posted by stilltrying
You do not simply cash out the bond. You offset your debt against it. From what I have read of many hours of reading on it is that one posts a certified copy of their BC to the treasury secretary (to the real person) and make them the fiduciary. Offset simply means paying your bills against your birth certificate. An original birth certificate is on BONDED paper and bonded paper has value and the BC has way more than you could think. It has to do with fractilization. The corporation "United States" went bankrupt in 1933 and with that FDR stole the gold of US citizens so people could no longer own money. All that they could own was NOTES namely FRNs. FRNs are not money they are debt. Since the govt went bakrupt they could only offer the peoples labor as collateral which is why we have the income tax and social security. This is as much as I want to type about it. You will need to research commercial redemption, look up Winston Shrout, Robert Menard, Dr Sam Davis, so on and so forth. UCC Section 3-104. Look up negotionable instruments. Those bills (gas, electric, phone, cable, satellite, so on and so forth) you receive in the mail are the order and the check and therefore can be accepted for value and returned for value. This stuff is not for the faint of heart it takes much much studying to truly grasp everything involved in this.
Prisoners fund america. Every court case is bonded and sold. The US Court system is nothing more than a revenue machine.