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Originally posted by Skyfloating
I used to think 9/11 was an Inside-Job, but reading the 9/11 Forum for awhile, I now tend to think it was not. Spend a few years reading this site and examining the sides and you might change your mind.
Spend a few years reading this site and examining the sides and you might change your mind.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I guess we will see. Or do you think it's a fact already? Do you not hold any hope at all for a better future? Is all lost?
It is a fact. I was told so by three career lobbyists lamenting their jobs, but not being able to do much about it, since they needed their jobs.
There is no hope for the american political system within the realm of voting and pleading with our representatives. Our voices and votes matter no more.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Under no circumstances do I advocate the "giving up" of any such resistance to the long-corrupted system we now serve. My intent is to highlight my opinion that any attachment of the hope for change to this system is futile. There can be no change as long as "we the people" serve the republic of lobbyists.
At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: "Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Voters still do matter, regardless of the immense power of the lobbyists. There are documented wins in the past few years that have been won by the diligence of the electorate.
What "wins" might those be? And I'm referring to actual change in the form of new programs or laws the benefit society. Sure, we may surprise the power-brokers from time to time by placing some unexpected name on the nameplate outside a Congressional, Senate, or executive door... but once they're seated in the office on which the name is post, the influence of money takes over.
I realize that the lobbyists wield much power. But to use that as a reason to give up the fight for our freedom is not in *my* personal constitution. They are just another hurdle that we need to overcome. Just because they wield influence today does not mean that they will always have that power.
Under no circumstances do I advocate the "giving up" of any such resistance to the long-corrupted system we now serve. My intent is to highlight my opinion that any attachment of the hope for change to this system is futile. There can be no change as long as "we the people" serve the republic of lobbyists.
Originally posted by loam
Let's not forget, the peril is not just Obama. It's huge portions of our population that have plain and simple lost their minds.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Uniceft17
Criticizing Bush is fine...as long as you then dont do what most people around here do: Champion the tyrants of Iran, North Korea, etc. as "liberators". You get suspicious of anti-Bush-sentiment when its coming from jihad-warriors and communist-regimes rather than the unbiased.
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Anyways back on topic. I'm very anti-bush but not in a Iran and North Korea sense, Where the heck did that come from? I've been against just about all of his policys, the man did nearly nothing right, and even when he did go into it with good intentions in mind (no child left behind) he still managed to some how f things up. Sorry but the man was terrible, period.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
This President did not care about popularity (worst approval ratings in History) but about long-term issues of the next 50 years.
Im not discounting the possibility that 9/11 was an inside-job, but I would not assume it as "absolute fact".
its engineered by the msm.
In January 2002, President George W. Bush launched the USA Freedom Corps to promote volunteer service opportunities within the United States and abroad. Created within months of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the program sought in part to encourage volunteer participation in homeland security. Citizen Corps, a component of USA Freedom Corps, was developed to help coordinate such volunteer activities and to increase the capacity of American communities to respond to any emergency situation. The program's goal is to provide opportunities for people to participate in a range of measures to make their families, their homes, and their communities safer from the threats of crime, terrorism, and disasters of all kinds.
AmeriCorps is a U.S. federal government program that was created under President Bill Clinton by the National and Community Service Trust Act of 1993. Later expanded by 50 percent under President George W Bush.