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Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns, and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last. 4. 5 And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. 6 Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power. 7 And I saw him confronting the ram; he was moved with rage against him, attacked the ram, and broke his two horns.
I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no animal could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great
There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him; and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.
Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns
and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last.
I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no animal could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great
And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power.
And I saw him confronting the ram; he was moved with rage against him, attacked the ram, and broke his two horns
There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him; and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.
I was reading a recent post on the 9/11 and it reminded me of something someone showed me a couple of years ago
he Holy Foreunner is also given the title of ‘Prophet’. In fact it can be said that he was the last Prophet of the Old Testament. As you may recall, the last seventeen books of the Old Testament are the Prophetic Books, from St Isaiah to St Malachi.
In this way, we can also say that St John is the first Prophet of the New Testament. Thus, St John can be considered as a hinge, joining the Old Testament and the New Testament.
We also note that not only was St John the Baptist the first Prophet of the New Testament, but that the last Prophet of the Old Testament was also called John.
This was St John the Theologian, who wrote the last book of the New Testament and its only prophetic book, the Book of Revelation.
www.orthodoxengland.org.uk...
Originally posted by dnttreadonme900
I just think it's funny how after a huge infamous event like 9/11 happens, everyone staggers around looking for things that have predicted it. I think we just look for things that give you a "sign" or "clue". And I do believe in signs from the universes and that not everything is just a coincidence. But it doesn't help us much after the fact.
Originally posted by darkelf
The ram is the medo-persian empire being defeated by Alexander's army. Alexander was the noteable horn. The difference in the horns denote the difference in the strength between the medes and the persians.
Originally posted by zaiger
No, it was not predicted in the bible. However if you look hard enough im sure you might find that this post was predicted in the bible.
Originally posted by Our Lord And Master
I see why a lot of people would like to know it was predicted, or it was a biblical event. It gives it some sort of justification, you know? As if, "It was in the Bible, so it had to happen." Kind of takes some of the pain out of it, if you know what I mean.
I see some of the similarities in the passage and events, but it pretty much was talking about what darkelf said.
This may make me sound sort of heartless but I agree with [OldDragger] that it was not such an important event to be prediction worthy. I don't mean to sound insulting, because I am an American, but too many people from every country probably try to associate the Bible with their country of origin.
In the grand scheme of things, much worse has happened to trigger much larger wars. The German holocaust causing WWII, or The American genocide of the Indians. It's just that there has been so much more pain from other things in the grand scheme of things, and 9/11 just feels greatest because of how recent it is.
I apologize for disagreeing, but my opinion is that most things in the Bible aren't really meant to be predictions unless it outright claims to be, such as Revelations. Most of the imagery such as that is referring to the current events of their time.
Dan 8:18-21 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright. And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns, and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last. 4. 5 And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. 6 Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power.
I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no animal could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great
Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
Originally posted by zaiger
No, it was not predicted in the bible. However if you look hard enough im sure you might find that this post was predicted in the bible.
I never said it was, I merely pointed out the similarities. Are you a bit sensitive to the topic? Because if you are I apologize.