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Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
Giving lessons and wisdom for combat and survival situations is NOT the same as threatening the Government. In fact these two are sharing their wisdom from experience in fighting for this Country and for the Government.
I suggest you keep such insidious allegations and accusations to yourself.
Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
Who said they are to be used against the Government? I have seen several warning of Foreign troops, not to mention in an economic collapse there are any number of potential enemies including gangs, looters, etc.
Again sharing combat knowledge and wisdom is not even close to walking a line of terrorism.
They are speaking of combat survival skills and apparently you have not the wisdom to learn because of your fear of the Government. It is precisely that attitude that will be the enslavement and/or death of many people.
Originally posted by astrij
A violent revolution will not solve anything. Thousands will die. If not millions.
Due to the fact that this armed revolution would consist of a minority of Americans, they would be easily disposed of. By disposed of, I mean killed or imprisoned.
The government would then implement martial law. Police and military checkpoints would be established throughout your country. Surveillance would be magnified.
Those involved in this violent revolution would be classified as terrorists, and the majority of American citizens would be in agreement with that assessment.
Change will only come when the majority of Americans feel that it is necessary.
It will more than likely be accomplished through peaceful methods.
Your desire for bloodshed will make matters in your country worse.
Your desire for bloodshed will ensure that your country is plunged in to a state of chaos.
Your desire for bloodshed will ensure that an actual police state is instated.
Your desire for bloodshed will truly erode your freedoms and hasten the destruction of the U.S. constitution that you all hold so dear.
When the majority of American have had enough of the current political climate, you will not need violence to restore your nation to its former glory.
Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
reply to post by astrij
Thank you for your wonderful views and idealism. Now that you have shared views that are quite irrelevant to the discussion may I suggest you go and read this thread?
No one here is advocating nor wants a violent revolution but again thanks for your irrelevant post.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Wow this thread took an odd turn! I would be a bit concerned you guys, you are skirting rather close to some quite illegal content here in my opinion. Remember, anti-government violence is still considered terrorism right, we are still currently under the rule of law, and the person you talk to may well be looking to do something rather rash.
Just thought I'd offer that, best of luck all!
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
I never said it was anything illegal yet, just very close to the line. I'm just saying perhaps open forums on the internet with strangers is not the best place to be speaking about tactics to be used against governments. That sort of thing can land you in trouble and for good reason. We are at war in this country you know, and loose lips can still sink ships so to speak.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Look at what you just wrote there, see that's called a contradiction. Yes, there has been advocacy against the government on this very thread, that federal organizations are whom you will be fighting. On top of this, it's still terrorism to kill allied troops!
I mean you guys are quite free to write whatever you like on here, within the rules of the site of course, but think absolutely anyone can read this stuff. The second it goes from talk to action, that's very bad, very illegal and very morally disgusting.
I mean the fact that you people seem to want combat is absolutely counter to what I believe, and what I've heard every single military man I've ever known believes, about how soldiers should think of war. It's legal though, and I'd defend it, because it's your free speech. What happens if some nutter finds this and decides to act on it now? That would be quite bad for you boys if they name you as inspiration.
That's all I've really got to say on it, so I'll leave you to it, but I'm just saying use some common sense here people!