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Originally posted by kdial1
I have never seen a Mason symbol like this before.... I am not sure if this pre-dates the founding of America. I know the cathedral does for sure..... Anyone?
Originally posted by SugarCube
Originally posted by kdial1
I have never seen a Mason symbol like this before.... I am not sure if this pre-dates the founding of America. I know the cathedral does for sure..... Anyone?
Would you clarify the significance of the "founding of America" in this context? I'm not being narky, I am just confused as to the implication that "America" is important concerning the symbolism of Freemasonry? It may just be my scanning of the sentence in which case I apologise for being pedantic Were you just using it as a term of reference outlining the antiquity of the piece?
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by kdial1
I am offering a guess since my reaserch is ending up not pointing me in the right direction. In the US our sqare and compases usualy have the letter G in the middlle, but that symbolism is not used in the UK. What I have found is that that symbol is called a traditional squre and compas. So untill I find out more, I would say it represents the all seeing eye of God (GAOTU) as the center of masonry. I will send an e-mail to a friend who might know.
Sure. Some of the symbolism in Masonry goes back to Pythagorus or earlier. The hexagram has its meaning, whether as Star of David or Seal of Solomon or otherwise. As does the triple-tau inscribed within it.
Originally posted by kdial1
reply to post by JoshNorton
Very true, but my good friend that is a Master Mason assures me that some of these symbols predate the founding of America, putting them around the 17th century.
What do you think about the Star of David? Next to the Scottish 18th degree rite? Signifigance?
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It was very soon realised that nothing short of rebuilding the tower from the foundation would meet the case. The first stone was taken down on April 5th, and the tower and two eastern piers were removed by August. The western piers were soon afterwards condemned, and taken down the following year. The chief corner stone of the new tower at the north-eastern pier, was laid with full masonic ceremonial on May 7th 1884, by the Earl of Carnarvon, acting for the Prince of Wales. All the stones, as taken down, were numbered, and every one that could be used again was replaced in its original position.
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The whole of the internal fittings of the choir (speaking now of the ritual choir) are new, and are part of the recent restoration. The new woodwork began to be placed in position in 1890. There is indeed a little old work, which was in the old choir before it was altered in the early part of this century. When removed, some of the front desks had been placed in the morning chapel, though much of the projecting tracery work was taken off. It was realised, when the existing stall-work was being designed, that these would be very suitable for use in their old position. Accordingly, all that could be so used have been placed again in the choir, with their traceried panels restored ; and the new work is made of the same character. The New Stalls are of the finest oak, with miserere seats ; the backs have rich tracery, with raised shields, moulded groined ceilings, and carved bosses at the intersection of the ribs. They are surmounted by octagonal canopies, in three stages, the upper-most containing a niche for a carved figure to each stall, while other figures, of much smaller size, are to be seen below. A few have at the back the armorial bearings of the donor, or some other symbol, such as the masonic emblems in those given by the Freemasons of England. The names of the cathedral officers and others to wliom the different stalls are assigned, have been inscribed on the label at the head of each ; and it is intended on each to record the donor's name.
Originally posted by kdial1
As promised here are the pictures and video of the Mason symbols from Peterborough Cathedral.
This first one is a Masonic Compass with the All seeing eye in the middle of the compass.
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THE GRAND MASTER. The compasses extended over an arc of 45°, with the segment of a circle at the points and a gold plate included, on which is to be represented an eye within a triangle, both irradiated.
The chief corner stone of the new tower at the north-eastern pier, was laid with full masonic ceremonial on May 7th 1884, by the Earl of Carnarvon, acting for the Prince of Wales.
This next one is one with a Compass with a cross and crown on top of the compass.
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Here is a second picture I took.
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Here is a random one in there.
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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by kdial1
I am offering a guess since my reaserch is ending up not pointing me in the right direction. In the US our sqare and compases usualy have the letter G in the middlle, but that symbolism is not used in the UK. What I have found is that that symbol is called a traditional squre and compas. So untill I find out more, I would say it represents the all seeing eye of God (GAOTU) as the center of masonry. I will send an e-mail to a friend who might know.
Originally posted by orangeman dave
Not 100 percent but i dont think the G is used in England