Students organize massive anticomunist protest in Moldova using Twitter

Students organize massive anticomunist protest in Moldova using Twitter

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Students in Moldova are using Twitter as a tool to mobilize opposition against a communist victory in Moldovian elections. According to reports, close to 10,000 protesters gathered at Moldova’s parliament in Chisinau, Moldova’s capital and were able to eventually break through police lines to storm into the building. From looking at the tweets on the subject, it appears that the demonstration turned into a violent coup attempt.

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[edit on 7-4-2009 by Nairda]

The time now in Chisinau is 2:00
New reports on twitter confirm gun shots.A growing number of special task police are confronting the students.
The students are refusing to acknowledge the communist victory in the recent elections.If the communist regime will remain in power it will further opress the Moldovan's under the watchfull eye of Kremlin.
Moldova place is in Europe.
Let's all support their cause.

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[edit on 4/8/2009 by Majic]

OSCE and all other international organizations monitoring the elections have clearly stated that the elections were fair and the results are legitimate. The Communist party has won fairly under a democratic system - the majority of Moldovans voted for them. What is so wrong with that? Isn't this the democracy Moldova wanted for so long - to have the majority select who runs the country?


Just because a bunch of drunk youths who feel like vandalizing and setting some fires, and are likely sponsored by Romania, feel like plundering the capital - the democratic results must stand. The elected Moldovan government must not yeild to the rioters, or else the Moldovan democracy will be burried.


And I don't have a slightest doubt where the rioters are being funded from. Marching with Romanian flags through Moldovan capital? Oh yeah - that's real classy. It comes to mind when the Romanian president stated that there is no such nation as Moldova.

Originally posted by Nairda
New reports on twitter confirm gun shots.A growing number of special task police are confronting the students.

They are confronting a bunch of drunk lawless vandals. Any other country would similarly take a tough stance against such behavior. These drunk idiots are causing millions of dollars in damage and are attempting to stage a coup to get rid of democratically elected government.

Originally posted by Nairda
If the communist regime will remain in power it will further opress the Moldovan's under the watchfull eye of Kremlin..

WTF are you talking about? What watchful eye of Kremlin? Your delusions, much like those of the rioters, are fueled by a phobia that stands in the way of real progress for Eastern Europe. There is no international communist regime anymore. The Moldovan communist party is independent from any other nation, and is more comparable to the socialist parties of France and other Western European countries, than the Soviet communist party that has been dead for nearly two decades now.

And how the heck are they opressing the Moldovans now? Any concrete examples? Or just more heaps of phobia and delusions?

Originally posted by Nairda
Moldova place is in Europe.

And nobody has ever denied otherwise, including the Moldovan communists. EU however is another question. Even if Moldovans wanted into the EU, with the current economic issues the EU will not want Moldova to join at the present time.

Originally posted by Nairda
Let's all support their cause.

Yes - screw democracy, screw law, screw the majority. Lets all get liquored up and go burn some houses in Chisinau in a massive orgy of pro-Romanian vandals. Is that the cause you are after?

Like it or not this election's results will stand - because that is the will of the majority. European nations have approved of the results and condemned the protests and the interest groups fueling them.



Either way, regardless of how hard you try, you won't get much attention for whatever cause you are trying to preach here on ATS. Many here can't even point to Moldova on the map, or know one single fact about the country. Sure the word "communists" will jump out at them - and thats when the phobia engraved into their minds will kick in and force an ignorant response. Alas Moldova is in a sad state, when a bunch of kids can cause the country to grind to a halt because their party lost. I am sure the majority of Moldovans will not let a bunch of thugs steal their country.

Perhaps you should take a small glance at the Georgian and Russian skirmish during recent Olympic Games. You WILL find similar back end funding orgz, present. Do not take what your read or see via your internet connection as proof. You DO need to search and investigate. Remember, this world is built on a basis of human evolution and human evolution is no Black or White picture.

Looks like another US paid and staged "revolution". What are they going to call it this time? They are running out of colors

reply to post by TheOracle


i agree , when will USa stop poking in others affairs ,
but with civil war in USA coming soon , i hope USA balkanizes too , it will put a stop to genocidal monster USA

Originally posted by TheOracle
Looks like another US paid and staged "revolution". What are they going to call it this time? They are running out of colors

So when the youth riot against Communist regimes it is "U.S. sponsored coup"...but when Communists revolt against Republics it is "freedom fighters fighting for the people"?....

I have lived and experienced Communism, and despite some people claiming it doesn't exist anymore, these people are nothing more than dellusional.

Communists never win fairly. They always give speeches about giving equal freedoms to all, and redistributing the wealth of all, and then when they are in power the truth comes out. Everyone is equally poor, everyone is equally opressed, unless you are part of the Communist system.

Originally posted by sadchild01
reply to post by TheOracle

 

i agree , when will USa stop poking in others affairs ,
but with civil war in USA coming soon , i hope USA balkanizes too , it will put a stop to genocidal monster USA

Sad, sad, sad... You have a direct image to fidel castro...obviously you think he was/is a good man who fought for the people... In fact it is the contrary, he oppressed the people from the beginning.

Another demon that liberals around the world continue to idolize without knowing anything about him is Che Guevara...

Che used his medical training to torture people. Che was the assassin of Fidel castro, and he would take the entire family of a man who would dare speak against castro outside the houses to watch the father, or son get murdered in front of the entire family as a lesson for everyone else... Yet Liberals/Revolutionaries/Socialists/Communists around the world keep idolizing a man that was a murderer of men, women and children...

Fidel and Catro and their entire regime were not fighting for the people, they fought to oppress the people of an entire nation which is the same thing that has happened in every Communist nation in the world...

Yet there are people who still lie about Communism, and what it has caused to the world and claim it does not exist anymore even thou there are billions of people still living under such regimes....



[edit on 8-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

I’m sure the US will find this event (staged?) just another reason to shut down social networking - and bring on Internet 2.



peace

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Castro, Guevara, Cuba.... how about you stay on topic for 1 post before going off on your typical anti-Leftist diatribes?

Communists never win fairly.

Except they just did:

The poll which has been reliable in the past had a margin of error of one percentage point. First results are expected early Monday, with final results on Wednesday.

The Communists came to power in 2001, and were re-elected in 2005. Living standards rose in that time

www.msnbc.msn.com...

If they really staged a rigged election, they wouldn't have won by such a slight margin and allowed 3 pro-European parties 50 seats in Parliament, to overrule their decisions:

The Communists won some 45 percent of the vote, according to the Institute for Public Politics. The party says it favors close links with both Europe and Russia.

Three pro-European parties managed to get enough votes to make them eligible for the 101-seat legislature. They scored 37 percent together.

It is still not clear whether the Communists will win the 61 seats in the 101-seat parliament that they need to elect a new president unopposed.

news.bbc.co.uk...

How does this qualify as a Coup d'état? They don't even have a majority within Parliament.
So much for a totalitarian regime you believe every Communist state is.

Stay on topic and stop bringing up your own prejudices to justify your sceptical outlook toward anything relating to Communism.

You're agenda couldn't be anymore clear on ATS from your extremely negative reactions towards any article relating to Russia, China or any Communist country, irregardless of the content, you simply use it as a chance to vent.

[edit on 8/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Even if the communist have won fairly that doesn't mean you have to respect their victory. The Moldovian youth is probably fed up with that some delusional demented grave mummies have chosen to take away their future by bringing back the commies. I would be fed up too and i wouldn't respect their victory either if i would live there. Clearly the ones who have chosen to let the commies win are not fighting to get there voices heard. I wouldn't let someone take away my future even if it was democratic.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by sadchild01
reply to post by TheOracle

 

i agree , when will USa stop poking in others affairs ,
but with civil war in USA coming soon , i hope USA balkanizes too , it will put a stop to genocidal monster USA

Sad, sad, sad... You have a direct image to fidel castro...obviously you think he was/is a good man who fought for the people... In fact it is the contrary, he oppressed the people from the beginning.

Another demon that liberals around the world continue to idolize without knowing anything about him is Che Guevara...

Che used his medical training to torture people. Che was the assassin of Fidel castro, and he would take the entire family of a man who would dare speak against castro outside the houses to watch the father, or son get murdered in front of the entire family as a lesson for everyone else... Yet Liberals/Revolutionaries/Socialists/Communists around the world keep idolizing a man that was a murderer of men, women and children...

Fidel and Catro and their entire regime were not fighting for the people, they fought to oppress the people of an entire nation which is the same thing that has happened in every Communist nation in the world...

Yet there are people who still lie about Communism, and what it has caused to the world and claim it does not exist anymore even thou there are billions of people still living under such regimes....

[edit on 8-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

most communists with the exception of stalin(who was opposed to bankers) were funded by international bankers , communism is nothing but a banker bogeyman for world domination .

read protocols of zion
Wall street and bolshevik revolution (it was wall street and german jewish bankers who funded communists)



[edit on 8-4-2009 by sadchild01]

And I don't have a slightest doubt where the rioters are being funded from. Marching with Romanian flags through Moldovan capital? Oh yeah - that's real classy. It comes to mind when the Romanian president stated that there is no such nation as Moldova.

They are marching with Romanian flag because it's what they are, they are Romanians. The languege is Romanian the flag is colored the same so where is the difrence. There is no such things as the moldovian languege.
The flag and the languege are the same.There is no national identity. Everything is taken from Romania because the majority there are Romanians.


Moldovian flag




Romanian flag




Can you feel the difrence? Evertything is a ripoff.

WTF are you talking about? What watchful eye of Kremlin?

The president of Moldova is a Russian citizen, speaks the Russian languege, is a former high ranking military Russian officer, just call it a hunch.

Your delusions, much like those of the rioters, are fueled by a phobia that stands in the way of real progress for Eastern Europe. There is no international communist regime anymore. The Moldovan communist party is independent from any other nation, and is more comparable to the socialist parties of France and other Western European countries, than the Soviet communist party that has been dead for nearly two decades now.

STATE CONTROLED.
The state ran TV station is broadcasting cartoons for kids at 7 aclock in the evening when people should view the news whith what is happening in the country.

The state ran TV station is controled by the state.
The internet network and the mobile phone network were taken offline to disrupt comunications(state controled)
Students that learn over the border in Romania were not permited to return home, they were not permited entry in Moldova and were left standing at the border by the Moldovian border police.
There were blocades formed at the entry of the Moldovian capital so nobody will get in.



Why the elections were a fraud and why no one cares.

The reason the EU observers called it clean is because the EU does not hold intrest in a small little country, since there will be no expantion of the EU because there is no intrest to expand anymore , there is a global economic meltdown and everyone will point the finger at Moldova when Moldova will try to join. Everyone will say that Moldova is not ready, at it will never be ready with a comunist party leading the country . This is a bliss for the EU leaders and it gives them the motive to deny entry to Moldova in the EU.


If you did not know 25% of Moldovian population is outside the border, they left the country, and what you do not know is that they were not permited to vote.

All the votes were counted without an observer in a state controled institution by goverment officials. Well how about this, I count the votes without anyone looking at me , I anonce who won, I won.

Another important aspect is seen in the statistics. Statistics said that the comunist party would take about 30% and they took over 55% of the votes making them rule over the majority at the finish line.

And nobody has ever denied otherwise, including the Moldovan communists. EU however is another question. Even if Moldovans wanted into the EU, with the current economic issues the EU will not want Moldova to join at the present time.

And the EU will have a very good motive for rejecting Moldova. Mafia sponsored in uniform and controled by the state, coruption at it's highest level, human rights abuses. A camera man tried to film the demonstration when it begun, he was punched in the face by the Police.


Here is what you call a few drunk.
www.youtube.com...



[edit on 8-4-2009 by pepsi78]

reply to post by HEroX

Even if the communist have won fairly that doesn't mean you have to respect their victory.

Disregard democracy and all the constitutional freedoms you take for granted when it suits you.

Nice.

Moldovian youth is probably fed up with that some delusional demented grave mummies have chosen to take away their future by bringing back the commies.

Obviously that is the extent of your knowledge regarding Moldova.

Apart from being Europe's poorest nation, the Eastern half of it wants to break away from Moldova and formed the unrecognised republic of Transnistria while the Southern part, populated by Romanian separatists are constantly breathing down the Moldovans necks and wanting to join their brothers south of the border.

Not to mention having record inflation, unemployment and being an Eastern Europe hotspot for arms, people, and prostitution smuggling, in addition to many other criminal enterprises.

I would urge caution when claiming to know the "main concern" of Moldovian youths everywhere.

It's nowhere near that simple.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

Disregard democracy and all the constitutional freedoms you take for granted when it suits you.

Nice.

Disregard how an old dictatorship is implemented in the disguise of
"Democracy" when it suits you?...

Nice....

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Obviously that is the extent of your knowledge regarding Moldova.
...........

Obviously the extend of your knowledge about such issues rests on reading what newspapers claim without making much research, or experiencing such issues.

A dictatorship, even under the disguise of "Democracy" is still a dictatorship, and Communism has been shown time, and again to turn into a dictatorship no matter what.



[edit on 8-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
So when the youth riot against Communist regimes it is "U.S. sponsored coup"...

Well the said youths are marching through Moldova's capital with Romanian flags, and erecting Romanian flags on Moldova's government buildings. Romania is a close ally of the US right now. They are also chanting pro-NATO slogans. And the only main party wishing for NATO to expand to Moldova is US and Romania.

While the US is probably not involved in this attempted coup (unlike those in Ukraine and Georgia), Romania definitely is, and US might share common interests with Romania.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
I have lived and experienced Communism, and despite some people claiming it doesn't exist anymore, these people are nothing more than dellusional."

...says a person who probably checks under his bed to see if Stalin is hiding there every night before going to sleep.

Dellussions are most common among those who experience an intense paranoia to something that does not materialize itself as real.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Communists never win fairly.

Good one. The communists in question are much like Socialist parties throughout Western Europe. These Socialists have achieved a pretty large number of victories in various European countries over the last century. Look at France's, Norway's, Italy's history for example. Some of these socialists were far closer to being "communists" than the current Moldovan government. The communists have also won a number of democratic victories in Latin America. Most well know was Allende, who - surprise surprise - was removed by a US-funded coup and replaced with tyrant Pinochet.

Learn some world history before making uneducated comments.

Originally posted by HEroX
Even if the communist have won fairly that doesn't mean you have to respect their victory.

They won through a democratic process. That means that legally their victory must be respected and accepted. If any defeated side during the elections can throw a hissy fit and get the rightful victor removed, then democracy is no more.

The majority of Moldovans have cast their vote for the communists. Their choice must be respected.

Originally posted by HEroX
The Moldovian youth is probably fed up with that some delusional demented grave mummies have chosen to take away their future by bringing back the commies.

Look throughout Europe. There were massive protests in Latvia several weeks ago - where the people were not content with Capitalism, which they feel has failed them. If the Moldovan youth have a problem with the how the majority of their countrymen think, they have no choice but to put up with it, or else they must do away with democracy.

And if the whole purpose of the riots is to get rid of the evil commies, how the hell do the Romanian flags figure into this? In actuallity this has not so much to do with communism, than with Romanian nationalists wanting to annex Moldova.

Originally posted by HEroX
I would be fed up too and i wouldn't respect their victory either if i would live there.

And that would give you the right to throw stones at police, burn buildings, and vandalize private property? There are numerous ways for the minority to state their discontent in a socially appropriate manner. Violent rioting and vandalizing is not one of such ways.

Originally posted by HEroX
Clearly the ones who have chosen to let the commies win are not fighting to get there voices heard.

Their voices were heard - when they voted. Europe heard them, and the world heard them, which is why international agencies like OSCE and all countries have voiced that the elections were fair and communists deserve the win. Why must they riot to support their victory? Casting ballots should be enough, while rioters must be dealt with appropriately.

Originally posted by HEroX
I wouldn't let someone take away my future even if it was democratic.

What do you find undemocratic about the win going to the party supported by the majority of the voters.

It may be hard to believe, but communist parties can exist in real democracies, and can work to pursue their goals within the context of democracy.

Originally posted by maloy

Well the said youths are marching through Moldova's capital with Romanian flags, and erecting Romanian flags on Moldova's government buildings. Romania is a close ally of the US right now. They are also chanting pro-NATO slogans. And the only main party wishing for NATO to expand to Moldova is US and Romania.

... The Moldova flag is the same as the Romanian flag, do your research before you put both feet in your mouth...

Another member already tried to inform you about this, and you continue with your charade...

Originally posted by maloy

While the US is probably not involved in this attempted coup (unlike those in Ukraine and Georgia), Romania definitely is, and US might share common interests with Romania.

The breakup of this section of Romania is nothing more than the same old trick of the Communists trying to install their dictatorship.

Originally posted by maloy
...says a person who probably checks under his bed to see if Stalin is hiding there every night before going to sleep.

Dellussions are most common among those who experience an intense paranoia to something that does not materialize itself as real.

The only dellusional person here is you, claiming that an international Communism organization to run the world with the Permanent Revolution is not happening, when there are signs of it all over the world.

People like you claimed for years none of this would happen. People like you claimed for years that "all the problems are because of the United States, and meanwhile you claim not to be Communist you keep spouting the same propaganda that the Communists have been using for decades as you blame everything on the United States, yet you fail to see that the Communsit states have been doing the same and worse.

Originally posted by maloy

Good one. The communists in question are much like Socialist parties throughout Western Europe. These Socialists have achieved a pretty large number of victories in various European countries over the last century.
...........

Riiight... So claim every Communist who says their dictatorship works even thou history has shown the contrary. Now the youth in Moldova have experienced part of Communism again, and they are turning aginst it, and you, like many others claim these youths must be part of some new Capitalist coup you made up... Keep looking under your bed for the Evil Capitalists...

These are only youths who are waking up to the realities of Communism and don't want it.



[edit on 8-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Please Stay On Topic

There is far too much personal commentary in this thread.

Our topic:

Students organize massive anticomunist protest in Moldova using Twitter

Let's please focus on that, and discuss the matter politely.

Thanks.