Fox News Secedes From America

Fox News Secedes From America

www.newscorpse.com

It was just a matter of time. With all of the white-hot, ultra-hyperbolic invective radiating from Fox News screens across the land, there was really no escaping the obvious end game. The usual suspects in the Fox Confederacy have been so filled with revulsion by the neo-Socialist path that they believe the country is on, that they can no longer abide nor accept it. So now Fox News is preparing to depart from the union with a fanfare, a blast of light, a loud swoosh and gong. And an advertising campaign.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Hmmm... so here it comes. people: the MSM prepare to jump aboard the bandwagon and take the reins...

Now we can see why certain "independent" issues and personalities have been getting so much coverage. Fox have worked out a way to play it to their advantage, and we have to remember that their game is factionalism.

They're only interested in the Republican right. That's their game. Remember, these are the same people who pumped the stock market when times were good... and long past the sensible point to do so. These are the people who sold you the idea that the "death tax" would benefit more than 1% of the country.

Now they're going to try and turn the tide of anger not against the corruption endemic to Washington, but solely against the Democrats. I'm non-partisan: my position is "a plague on both your houses": but I can see spin coming, and this is it.

www.newscorpse.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

I don't know why Fox News gets slammed so often, when MSNBC is far far far more biased. It's really silly, I switch between both networks, CNN and CNBC...and let me tell you MSNBC is by far the worst. They actually have commercials that basically call Republicans and Libertarians idiots...I mean, really now, it's absolutely ridiculous what MSNBC spouts, Fox actually looks fair at times in comparison, and I hate Fox News, what they did to Ron Paul pretty much gave away their position if nothing else. However, MSNBC has two of the most popular admitted liberal talking heads working for them, Maddow, Olberman and then still Matthews.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by yellowcard]

I thought I'd also add this rather trenchant comment from the article I linked:

This is an unprecedented, and frightening, initiative to use a major television network as an organizing tool for political activism. The sort of advocacy work normally done by independent organizations like MoveOn or Freedom’s Watch is now being conducted by a billion dollar media enterprise with a well known partisan agenda. No matter how much the right wallows in their delusions of NBC or the New York Times being mouthpieces for the left, those institutions have never set themselves up as coordinating committees for social movements.

Yup. Fair and balanced? Riiiight....

reply to post by yellowcard


You have completely missed the point of the article. I hope that the extra paragraph I quoted puts it into the proper perspective for you.

Originally posted by rich23
reply to post by yellowcard

 

You have completely missed the point of the article. I hope that the extra paragraph I quoted puts it into the proper perspective for you.

I don't think I missed the point, I'm just commenting on perception vs reality on the network fronts, more a reinforcement than anything. I do hate that when people say that everything from Fox is just propaganda, or that now everything from the Republican party says is also 100% wrong; because that's ridiculous. That's the agenda that networks like MSNBC are pushing though, Olberman spends at least 5 minutes of each show discrediting (usually falsely, but not always) something that a Fox News person has said. I wish journalism would make a comeback and people would stop putting their spin on it...but as it stands now, Fox News is actually probably the only network that isn't going to be kissing up to the Obama administration and backing all of their decisions with blind faith; whatever their motive is, I don't care, it's actually shedding more light on the administration this way.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by yellowcard]

What is the #1 purpose of any news organization? Doesn't matter what kind, be it a newspaper, News show, Opinion or debate show? Any medium you wish to name.

The #1 purpose is not to spread the news, it's not to give an unbiased opinion and its not to educate.

The #1 purpose is to turn a profit. If they don't turn a profit they can't pay their bills and their staff.

Fox news has a core audience they suck up to. In return they get lots of money through advertising and market share.

The news you see in the MSM has nothing to do with the truth.

It's all about making money.

Just my thoughts on it,

Star and Flag. Fox is by far the worst MSM as far as bias goes. They were a wing of the whitehouse for the last eight years sending the daily talking points out to the misinformed and hoodwinked Fox viewer who would then spread it themselves. You can almost hear them giggling at the destruction of common sense and common good.

UPS has decided to stop advertising on Fox News because they don't agree with their message.

fox News is disgusting

LOL... I love it.

I will have to check this out on March 30th!

I was a bit disappointed with the912project site. I was hoping it would look and feel a little bit more like ATS with the board set-up, avatars, and such.

I hope they actually make this site well.


And for the fox news slammers.... you have all the rest of the MSM channels and the "open about it" Left wing socialist network MSNBC to listen to.



[edit on 28-3-2009 by infolurker]

Originally posted by mandroid
Star and Flag. Fox is by far the worst MSM as far as bias goes. They were a wing of the whitehouse for the last eight years sending the daily talking points out to the misinformed and hoodwinked Fox viewer who would then spread it themselves. You can almost hear them giggling at the destruction of common sense and common good.

I challenge you to watch Keith Olberman for a week and report back to me, I guarantee you will change your mind.

Originally posted by mrwupy
What is the #1 purpose of any news organization? Doesn't matter what kind, be it a newspaper, News show, Opinion or debate show? Any medium you wish to name.

The #1 purpose is not to spread the news, it's not to give an unbiased opinion and its not to educate.

The #1 purpose is to turn a profit. If they don't turn a profit they can't pay their bills and their staff.

Fox news has a core audience they suck up to. In return they get lots of money through advertising and market share.

The news you see in the MSM has nothing to do with the truth.

It's all about making money.

Just my thoughts on it,

Not all of them. Some of them are in it for their passion to report and investigate. Some of them love their jobs and feel like they are making a difference by reporting on matters that affect us rather than the next scandal. Sorry, I just now reread what you said and saw that you specified MSM. They are all spoonfed. Ignore my complaint.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by mandroid]

The lemmings are all lined up and ready to jump.

They are clever enough to know that it is much easier to control from within so they infiltrate, deceive and enslave.

I fear that too many people will follow them right off the cliff.

Originally posted by yellowcard

Originally posted by mandroid
Star and Flag. Fox is by far the worst MSM as far as bias goes. They were a wing of the whitehouse for the last eight years sending the daily talking points out to the misinformed and hoodwinked Fox viewer who would then spread it themselves. You can almost hear them giggling at the destruction of common sense and common good.

I challenge you to watch Keith Olberman for a week and report back to me, I guarantee you will change your mind.

Mr. Olberman plays off of Fox and ridicules them. How am I supposed to see this as unfair? His style is abrasive if you are stuck on the receiving end and I find him refreshing, but then again, I hardly watch the "news" channels. I stand by my words.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by mandroid]

Fox News is the worst TV channel out there. They are so partisan it's obscene. Now that a ``democrat`` is in, they are for small government and against bailouts. When it was Bush, all the bailouts and all the government abuse was more than ok, it was from god and anyone opposing it was a terrorist commie.

During Bush, Obermann was great. Now, he's just a mouthpiece for Obama. During Bush, Fox News were disgusting, now they are 50/50 on certain issues.

CNN is always mostly BS unless it's Lou Dobbs who mostly tell it like it is.

If at least this move by Fox News give more power to the 10th amendment legislation in the states, it will be a +++. But I would question their motives since they are controlled by scumbag in chief, Rupert Murdoch.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by Vitchilo]

There is a separatist streak on the Right that is growing and increasingly paranoid.

They spent eight years convincing themselves they were the only "real" Americans, and that anyone not with them was against them.

Now they've lost a national election and they're bewildered and angry.

They're convinced the country has been "taken over" by "traitors" & "Communists" - you can see it all over ATS.

There will be violence, bet on it.

But Fox News doesn't really care about any of that, what they care about is the bottom line.

Hmmm...

way too many people are looking at this in a partisan way.

My perception is that people like Alex Jones and Ron Paul are starting to get traction because everyone's fed up with the corruption that's almost structurally a part of US politics. Some people thought it was going to change with Obama, and they're disappointed.

Some people (Republicans in particular) see Obama doing the same kind of thing they didn't like Bush doing - not all Republicans liked Bush - and more people are waking up to the agenda that is being pursued.

And those people who are berating Obama for being a "Socialist" are wrong, or at least only half-right. National Socialism is more like it.

I've said it before on these boards but I think it needs saying again:

Communism is where the state takes over the corporations. Fascism is where the corporations take over the state.

For a long time, the US has been in free-fall towards fascism. When you're high up, you feel all nice and light and there's a nice breese. As the ground starts to rush towards you, you start to think about what'll happen when you crash into it.

Yes, ALL the MSM have an agenda, and the bottom line is to make money. And Fox is going after the "independent dollar" if you like. But what's also happening is that for the first time a news network is getting actively involved in the political arena. This isn't just Olbermann's two cents or O'Reilly with his dittoheads (imagine being proud to call yourself a sheep).

This is a massive, multinational corporation becoming an explicit political force.

While it's doing that, it's polarising various issues, in partuclar that of states' rights, around its own agenda. It's trying to restate the argument in its own terms.

There's quite a good documentary about the media and their power in government: Orwell rolls in his grave

It's a little dated now, and it's perhaps a little partisan. Try to see past that. If you look, you can see exactly why we're all here on the internet looking for news because the media have failed us.

Tellingly, it also predicts the reasons they'll try to restrict the internet. And they're all reasons you'll recognise from recent threads on ATS.

Reality is fox is smart enuff to know people dont trust the government and that if they go this route they will make money. It even shows up on there TV line up they play to conspiracies. example 24, doll house, prison break, fringe need i go on theres still more!

reply to post by xmotex


Those are all good points, and they are some of the people that Fox is targeting. But I'd say they're also trying to co-opt the people who might otherwise find common ground with the independents and libertarians, and they'll be controlling the discussion and skewing the issues to create as much havoc on all parties as they can.

Hope you're wrong about the violence. Not betting on it though.

reply to post by dragonridr


That's what I'm saying - and they will try and bring the argument to places that suit them.

I could even see them pursuing some sort of agenda that covertly supports greater internet control while apparently pursuing an independent line.