Humans 'will be implanted with microchips'

Humans 'will be implanted with microchips'

news.ninemsn.com.au

All Australians could be implanted with microchips for tracking and identification within the next two or three generations, a prominent academic says.

Michael G Michael from the University of Wollongong's School of Information Systems and Technology, has coined the term "uberveillance" to describe the emerging trend of all-encompassing surveillance.

"Uberveillance is not on the outside looking down, but on the inside looking out through a microchip that is embedded in our bodies," Dr Michael told ninemsn.

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Somehow, I doubt it will take that long. This is the start of the softening up phase. The fact this is in the MSN means the ball is rolling now.

The next generation will think being chipped is normal. In fact, I guarantee they will think it's 'cool', and do anything to get one.

That's how TPTB do things.

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[edit on 31/1/09 by NuclearPaul]

These fascist levels of proposed surveillance make me sick.

Those who think "if you've got nothing to hide, you shouldn't be afraid" are clearly under the misconception that the governing bodies spying on you aren't run by crooks.

The only reason a government would want to use such drastic levels of surveillance is because they've likely got something in mind which they know will tick off the general public... enough for the general public to get violent.

Surveillance of law abiding citizens is intimidation.
And only the guilty intimidate.



Now...
Normally I wouldn't think of the Religious as an ally in anything... however, a few faiths hold the belief that implants and markings are a sign of the "beast", and may view this as exactly that.

Maybe their irrational fear of their fairytale characters can be of some use to us.

reply to post by NuclearPaul
According to CT's of the 90's, we should have them already. I guess this is one more thing we can add to the list of conspiracies that will not die.

One place were most folks run in tandem is on the subject of chipping humans. Religious types see it as the "Mark of the Beast" and secular CT's see it as the culmination of the Big Brother State. Either way, there's so much unified resistance that you won't see human chipping. Neural headsets are already making most practical applications of an implanted chip much less intrusive... and you can take it off at any time.

Make your kids read Animal Farm, 1984, Brave New World and Walden 2 and keep the world safe for another generation.

They can chip my dead body, as that's what it will take.

My wife always takes the compliant line and tells me that we have kids to look after. She would rather 'live', whatever the circumstances.

The world won't be worth living in for my kids, if they are forced to have chips in them. No way. At some point, some people are going to have to make a stand against this garbage.

So What?

Start learning about signals and programming and all that fun stuff...

Very interesting, when signals sending information about you can be altered to tell the story you wish them too...

Not Much of the NWO is very scary if you choose to be a big enough Geek

It's all Robin hood really, The Lords had access to make Armor and Swords, the population did not... then someone invented a bow string that worked a bit better and everything changed... good story with a real history of freedom behind it.

Master the technology, then it's not so scary Lucifer himself can be listening to my chips signal, he'll think i'm at home watching TV when I'm in The frackin Andes somewhere... with an Atm card with his Pin number on it lol

Originally posted by johnsky
Normally I wouldn't think of the Religious as an ally in anything... however, a few faiths hold the belief that implants and markings are a sign of the "beast", and may view this as exactly that.

Maybe their irrational fear of their fairytale characters can be of some use to us.

That's sort of what scares me. If they're putting this in the MSN, and there will be enormous resistance to it, a good old fashioned "terrorist attack" or rise in child abductions could do wonders here. Make people that scared, they'll change their minds and want it.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Master the technology, then it's not so scary Lucifer himself can be listening to my chips signal, he'll think i'm at home watching TV when I'm in The frackin Andes somewhere... with an Atm card with his Pin number on it lol

I never thought of it that way, you're dead right.

Knowledge is power.



[edit on 31/1/09 by NuclearPaul]

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Yes. And then you get caught and you are in a place similar to Gitmo very quickly?

So I wouldn't trust a "For Dummies" hacker's skill to liberate himself from the RFID tyranny.

Stuff like this is great entertainment to me... But somehow I feel that 90% of ATS is just fear-mongering and madness. I just laugh at it, but somebody might get paranoid or depressed about these.

Still I think that there is evidence that the basic issues discussed here have a lot of truth in them: Conspiracies, paranormal, UFOs are real.

The problem is that you pile a huge pile of garbage on top of it. Fear-mongering, hoaxes, paranoia, pure madness, and a lot of stupidity.

So there is a conspiracy in the government... Yes... There have always been conspiracies in the government, some beneficial, some purely evil. Even I have been in some conspiracies, though not government ones.

So what I think is that yes, you have a lot of conspiracies fighting for power, and... So what?

The one real conspiracy I would be really worried is the Bilderberg group. Even they are a bit of "NWO light". If you read what they are really doing you will be a bit "so what", so conspiracy theorists tend to add aload of fear-mongering and paranoid garbage on top of what we really know about it... Since the real agenda is a bit scary, but not scary enough to sell books.

Those Bilderberg people are basically technocrats, and that is boring, so you have to add ritual satanic abuse and nazi-style totalitarianism to sell your books, videos and lectures. And maybe reptilians and 2012 apocalypses and stuff to sell your books.

If you look at the *SUPPOSED* Bilderberg agenda, a lot of it actually seems beneficial. Unless you are some kind of an American NRA Hillbilly afraid of them foreigners coming to take your moonshine away. And then the points that are obviously evil seem so fantastic it is very hard to believe they could be true. Like the people running the world would be some kind of evil satanic super-nazis...

I don't know. Even though I believe there is some truth in many of the topics here (though many threads are 90% bs) I just cannot get depressed and paranoid about this. The truth is way out there but not as gloomy and doomy as people seem to think.

[edit on 31-1-2009 by Etsivä Romppainen]

Originally posted by Etsivä Romppainen
I just cannot get depressed and paranoid about this.

Probably the best attitude to have. Stay calm and have a clear mind.

Originally posted by Etsivä Romppainen
reply to post by mopusvindictus

 

Yes. And then you get caught and you are in a place similar to Gitmo very quickly?

So I wouldn't trust a "For Dummies" hacker's skill to liberate himself from the RFID tyranny.

[edit on 31-1-2009 by Etsivä Romppainen]

For Dummies Hacker? Placed in Gitmo?

I haven't had to work a "job" in 15 years and i'm young.

That's quite a far cry from "Gitmo" where "the is system" would supposedly bring me if I choose to circumvent the system every way I can.

It's not like you have to actually "hack" anything to make money on a computer and buy your freedom as things stand now.

And no one is or will be forcing anyone to do anything.

Slavery you see is a choice and even if there is a Devil we are told "free Will" can't be violated.

People Choose to Hate when they say Hate

People choose to work and loose Capitalism right now even in America.

people WILL buy those razors with the Tags in them...

You could just eat oranges and crap rofl...

But you Choose to be a Slave in Life, they can do what they do because people a % of them at least always nay say, always doubt, never believe and are led.

I say

Knowing the technology is the "best" way given this particular topic...

"Go to Gitmo?" or some similar place...

I don't EVER have to even break the law once to get around the NWO the Govt or any one else, I can Comply all the way and change my circumstances any time I want to if I don't like them.

I had a friend,

Sort of a moron this guy

He says to me in a conversation about getting out of the City in an "Event" scenario...

He went first

" I have over 100 people ready to go and I still don't know how we'd get past the non lethal weapons they need to be banned"

He says

"we are going to need you"

I said...

I'm not going near those guys or you, I'll walk right up to the road block myself, ask for whomever is in charge and when i'm done talking and name dropping... I'll walk through with an escort"

He then

Went on and on about how i'm (me) so against this sort of thing

and I said yeah, but that doesn't mean I need to make them my enemy either.

Your free, your free to leave, to disagree... always free to make many choices...

SO

That brings me back to your Nasty "hacker for dummies"

Life is meant to be Hacked

Hacking a computer can be illegal, hacking life never is there is no "definition" for them to pursue

a Chip sends a signal, any signal can be blocked and duplicated at LEAST blocked...

Then you have feet and choices

How you go about it all, if I don't want to carry a signal... there will always be a way out of it even if it's put inside you

What is Hacking?

Is Hacking being able to break into an MIT server or is it calling the Secretary on the phone in an office and getting her to just...give it to you?

Which would be faster?

Any system designed to contain us, is meant for the masses and trouble makers

It wont even notice you if you simply comply and don't cause trouble, if it disturbs you, you will have the capacity to leave or barter or negotiate or trade for your freedom.

Smart people will never be enslaved anyway, your too useful, people that hold power need brains because those that crave it really aren't usually the brightest... even the "leaders" that gain fame and fortune usually aren't very bright... not when compared to the Truly bright bulbs among us.

If the NWO does chip me and knocks on my door... or I choose to leave and they find me... i'll be sure to have ready something far more useful than Myself for them in exchange for my freedom.

In fact

The one joke of a site like this...

Is that i'm far from alone i'd venture that, a strong percentage although a minority of people in here sound off on topics, but really know full well, they are safe from most "conspiracies" because they have the brains to look and question in the first place where most simply... are unaware

What you DO with awareness however is something else entirely

Some in here talk of the uprising lol or whatever

I see, cycles of History... lead my life in a way to be above the human folly of repetition of the past

I'm not a participant only the bad luck of a bomb falling on my head in the commotion can get me... because i'm not a Jerk Off...

Not Important enough to matter not disenfranchised or a problem... to whomever "thinks" they are in charge from whatever form of govt...



You know my comment "know the technology" wasn't strong enough

Know the Technology, Know the Law, Know PEOPLE first above all...

Me, I have Zero fear of enslavement or capture or anything else, I know allot of crap and i'm useful and I don't ask for much beyond my Freedom

I'll never be in any system for long, first thing they do is Talk to you... that's where the best hacking I can do comes in, and like I said i'm not a Jerk Off...

Sleuth tech, at worst can cause me to be talked to at best land me jobs lol

This kind of stuff doesn't scare me...

My comment

"The devil couldn't find me and if he did i'd have his atm card"

I don't say that because hacking is my thing per say to a degree... I understand what i need to and can learn anything anyone else can

I say that however, because... The Devil will give me his Atm card no strings attached if I ASK the right way.

Ignorance is no reason for being stupid.

Do I even need to go into detail about how dumb this is? I think you all already know how ridiculous this is.

Thinkwhat it would be like in a legal court case..just think about it..

Prosecuter says "well, we know you werent at your home last night, we know you were over here, we have you chipped remember?"

Defense says "oh @#@#, I shouldnt have gotten that chip"

What if one day you just want to get up and move out without anyone knowing it, you just want to take a vacation or even move deep into the mountains, what good is the chip going to do you then? Yup, they will still know where you are, and NOPE you cant take it out. i hate this whole chip idea, it gives me the creeps.

reply to post by Common Good


Why wont I be able to remove it?

Will they shoot it into my heart?

No one will allow anything that invasive being forced on them.

What this thread is really about is Technophoboia, something Teddy Kazinsky knew a bit about.

The amount of information needed to efficiently survive in this society is becoming vast and doing so quickly and many people can't take it and cope or figure out how to fight back appropriately when it's used against them.

Worse if you work 9-5 it becomes very difficult to keep up so a feeling of being "enslaved" becomes pervasive.

It's just the change of an age from Industrial to Digital

Like the change from Agriculture to Industry it will come with revolt and disorder. and ABUSES

Thing is though

Forward motion in terms of Discovery and Change, can't go back one let loose, so fighting on the side against it is the side that will always loose, every time. Until something comes along that flips the scales

You can pick whichever side you choose but the only way to win is to advance with the times.... No, to be ahead of them at all times, nothing is more true about that statement then it's relevance right now

There was after all once a Caveman... who didn't quite "Get" fire... he would argue night and day to the other Cavemen about it... had religious and cultural and moral reasons why it was wrong

But it didn't put the fire out either did it?

So Grog our Caveman, died one day along with his offspring when A Fire HE couldn't put out got out of control in the village

And maybe Grog was right, maybe Fire Could Burn down the whole Village

But he was only concerned,

Because he and His were the Ones at risk, If Grog had "got" fire and Understood it, he could have continued his line...

Originally posted by NuclearPaul
That's sort of what scares me. If they're putting this in the MSN, and there will be enormous resistance to it, a good old fashioned "terrorist attack" or rise in child abductions could do wonders here. Make people that scared, they'll change their minds and want it.

Well with the current econimic scenario...maybe that will suffice?
One can only hope that more innocent people will not be pawns.
Woe to those who bring harm to children!