Livecam from Gaza

reply to post by icybluebeing


Good point


But it is related.

I notice CNN is widescreen and seems to work better then the other feed.
Nice shot of a Cobra shooting flares now.

The fighting is getting more intense ramattan is showing a helicopter shooting missiles into gaza,Or they might be flares or something else?

[edit on 12-1-2009 by icybluebeing]

Originally posted by arcnaver
reply to post by makkerskilap

 

Whats more sickening? A legal tool of war being used in warfare, or the innocent civilians caught in the cross fire because of cowards hiding in their midst?

WP is legal, for what I see it being used for. I have yet to see an Israeli soldier pop a WP grenade into a pile of naked people. What I have seen is WP being used as a tool of concealment and as a tool of Incineration of Buildings.

that question is kinda irrelevant.

it's ALL sickening. the WP, the tanks shooting at buildings and destroying peoples homes, the cries in the night, the big and loud explosions, the gunfire, the killings, all of it.. i just don't think it's "fair" (if you can use fair in this situation), that they are using something that is a truly nasty weapon and seriously i personally don't believe that it hasn't hit people and caused the burns etc, because of the amount that has been fired the last couple of days.. A LOT of it... btw, i didn't know that it could be used for incinerating bouldings, but then again that is a dirty trick, too, and in some point, if i were a gaza man and i knew that if i came out of hiding i would have a guided missile up my ass, i would propbably stay hiddin, wouldn't you? (i'm NOT saying im taking sides with the Hamas here, note this.) but i wouldn't be running around if someone wanted to kill me, i would hide, and seeing as i have read they are trying to irritate israel and make them bomb so much that they look like the bad guy, i see their point in their way of hiding, if that is the case.. this may come about wrong to some but im danish so my way to put things in english may be a little off even though im good at it, but im not taking any sides, i would like all of this to stop, but it's not going to, just in a sec...

[edit on 12-1-2009 by makkerskilap]

reply to post by makkerskilap


You did just fine.

It all sucks for the innocents caught in this dirty mess. No where to run or hide except in their home and hope it doesnt get bombed.





Those were flares from the Cobra. Common practice to set those off before and after an attack run or over a hot area. A just in case effort to ward off any heat seakers.


Good day all.

the innocent civilians caught in the cross fire because of cowards hiding in their midst?

/snip

What I have seen is WP being used as a tool of concealment and as a tool of Incineration

So the logical action when you take out targets who are using civilians as cover is to incinerate the lot of them using WP?

That is immoral, disgusting and probably illegal. What a lovely human being you are! Combine this with talk of propaganda when there is none and accusations of conspiracy and we have to conclude you are a pro-Zionist mouthpiece aiming to disrupt the thread.

Back on topic somewhat, has anyone been listening to the Bush speech? What does he have to say?

The www.aftonbladet.... link leads me to a German? page that I cannot read.
Can someone tell me how to navigate from there to the live cam.
Shame about the rammatan link, i will mis mr cockys morning call.
Is cnn the only live feed at the minute?(No sound?)
Also Can someone post fresh links or list to currant cams?

Anyone know if Phoenix the rooster is ok?

Or haven't the IDF got in that far yet?

Hi
Can anyone help me. I cant see the webcam link. Has it been removed?

Aftonbladet web tv went just down...

www.aftonbladet.se...

Does the CNN feed suppose to have audio?

reply to post by Kain01


I've had no sound since the link went live, I don't think anyone else has either.

reply to post by Goathief


Yeah, no voice, and that makes watching - makeing any opinion impossible. Now Aftonbladet is also out from Gaza... Wonder why?

And then CNN takes all the streams, and offers no voice... "There is no war... Ask the plumber!"

Something is missing now... And the voice. I hope to find some other Arab channel now, looks like Ramattan is somehow now overtaken.

I wish the sound, now.

reply to post by JanusFIN


Ramattan hasn't been overtaken. They're still broadcasting live but without any audio.

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


True, but I appreciate his sentiments though: at night with the lights it could be any city without any trouble and war - we cannot hear the gunfire, explosions, screaming, emergency vehicles and the like: if you glanced at it as it is now you could be forgiven for doubting any atrocities have and are being carried out.

I notice how the Ramattan logo keeps vanishing and coming back - I wonder how long before it's gone for good and people presume this is a CNN crew in Gaza?

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Goathief]

reply to post by Goathief


True. But at the moment we will have to do with Ramattan and the Al Jazeera crew for our live coverage from Gaza. Tho the Al Jazeera crew hasn't done much live coverage today (for sofar as I've seen).

Anyway something big is going on... Israel has tighten their rules.

Showing this broadcast in USA without voice gives totally wrong picture from what is happening. I have now look for a while, but I cant see that cameramans are very active either. Yesterday they zoom in, make plenty of pannings, change camera view.

Is the picture more passive today, or is it only me trying to find some conspiracy behind these jumping links.

All logos are changed from yesterday.

reply to post by JanusFIN


Well, I'm not jumping to conclusions yet. Remember when Ramattan was still on the nana10 feed? They lost their audio there aswell. We did see those tanks of which one fired into a building but it was all without audio.

Perhaps the mic fell and the camaraman/woman stood on it. I don't know but there could be multiple explenations as to why there isn't any audio.

But you're right, without the audio and with the footage we're seeing now, this could be anywhere in the world where there's no war going on.

I am watching Ramattan Live from

Livestation.com

And in 1/2 hour they havent use same camera material at all... I hope they will change to rooftop cameras in their news broadcast... To get the voice!

VOICE. That is most important... I hope someone to contact CNN because of this lack of sound all over the world!

wt happened?
The israeli channel 10 is now broadcasting instead of Ramattan live cameras!!
did they stole the line? or wt?

Hi,

Can you give me the link? I watched a lot through this one: switch3.castup.net...:30:00%20-%202k

But it shows news now so no live feed..

Thanks

Originally posted by JanusFIN
I am watching Ramattan Live from

Livestation.com

And in 1/2 hour they havent use same camera material at all... I hope they will change to rooftop cameras in their news broadcast... To get the voice!

VOICE. That is most important... I hope someone to contact CNN because of this lack of sound all over the world!