Just wanted to post something I found over in reddit.com new high quality versions of all three tower demolitions take a good look and tell me what
you think.
Just wanted to add that the person that took these videos does not want to be contacted....lets focus on what the videos are showing.
basically its as simple as this... I have studied almost every possible explanation of 9/11 and not one has answered the question of why wtc7 fell. Im
not on vendetta here but I do want to say to all the 9/11 debunker types, LOOK AGAIN! and when one of you can honestly explain how a fully intact
building collapses on itself I still will not respond cause it freaking hopeless...after a couple years it has been made very clear to me...ppl dont
come here to discuss this topic they just come here to spout their various fear.
FNORD.
Great video! You can actually see the damage that WTC2 caused to WTC1 as it fell. I think that's the first time I've actually seen that. I could
see a little more of WTC7's collapse, too.
Thanks brother!! For many years I have seen the principia and book of subgenius are deprogramming tools for religion and the NWO in general...but
thats whole other thread. The video I posted is the best quality I have seen to date. The video is very telling I am glad the person that took this
decided to release it. FNORD.
Once again, I am surprised that the towers stood as long as they did from the damage they suffered from the airliners. As for "demolition" still do
not see any evidence of that.
These videos look like they are taken almost from the same vantage point of the video of the lady that took the "what we saw video"
www.abovetopsecret.com... , but they are better evidence of some great explosive force happening after impact had occurred
long before so how is that explained?
Thats high quality? I beg to differ. And why does the video, just before the south tower begins to collapse, edit from a zoom in looking at a puff of
smoke comming out of the side of the south tower, and then suddenly we see debris already falling almost half way down, then the camera zooms out?
The north tower part, extremely pixilated and doesnt even show the begining of the collapse.
The footage I got on the day all this happend, raw footage I should also add, recorded on a DVD from the ABC live news feed right off the network
affiliate sattelite, is FAR better than this stuff.
WTC7 doesn't seem to collapse towards the other towers as would be expected if the base of the building on that side had been structurally weakened
by the debris from the other fallen towers. It collapses uniformly across the entire building which would only happen if there was an equal amount of
damage to all sides of the base of the building which wouldn't be possible.
I hear you but seriously dude look at wtc7 and please tell me how thats not controlled demolition? I will be open to your explanation I honestly am
one of the few ppl here that is interested in the 9/11 events and is still open to be proven wrong.
Well, first off, contrary to popular belief, WTC 7 didnt fall into its own footprint. There are other videos that should it with a distinct lean
towards the tower wreckage as it falls, which would confirm that the collapse started on the tower side of 7, not in a uniform manner. In addition, 7
came apart to the point that it hit the building at 30 West Broadway, causing enough damage that 30 West was eventually torn down. None of the videos
show any evidence of demolition charges going off at the same time in a ordered manner.
Well, first off, contrary to popular belief, WTC 7 didnt fall into its own footprint. There are other videos that should it with a distinct lean
towards the tower wreckage as it falls, which would confirm that the collapse started on the tower side of 7, not in a uniform manner. In addition, 7
came apart to the point that it hit the building at 30 West Broadway, causing enough damage that 30 West was eventually torn down. None of the videos
show any evidence of demolition charges going off at the same time in a ordered manner.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Once again, I am surprised that the towers stood as long as they did from the damage they suffered from the airliners. As for "demolition" still do
not see any evidence of that.
It's helpful to have Swampy in a thread sometimes because he is intelligent enough to highlight points that clinch the truther case by stating that
the opposite is true.
The above quote highlights two important points.
1. The planes didn't knock the buildings down. They stood until the firemen were on the verge of putting out the fires and then had to be blown out
of sequence of the impacts to keep the fake scenario going.
2. The speed and symmetry of the collapse argues strongly for controlled demolition.
Well, first off, contrary to popular belief, WTC 7 didnt fall into its own footprint. There are other videos that should it with a distinct lean
towards the tower wreckage as it falls, which would confirm that the collapse started on the tower side of 7, not in a uniform manner.
If you look at the collapse of WTC7 in the footage posted by the OP, you can observe the corner of it as it falls dropping vertically for several
floors before leaning toward where the other towers stood and away from non-Silverstein owned property across the street from it.
Unquestionably it started to fall into it's own footprint which argues against a collapse initiated by asymmetrical damage cause by other
collapses. It then, part way through the collapse, started to lean away from surrounding property and property damage claims.
Hats off to Controlled Demolitions Inc. and others in the industry for setting such high standards of demolition control. Of course I am not alleging
that they had anything to do with the controlled demolitions we are discussing. But through their fine work they do demonstrate that the kind of
control I am talking about is certainly achievable.
In addition, 7 came apart to the point that it hit the building at 30 West Broadway, causing enough damage that 30 West was eventually torn
down.
Nobody's perfect, but who would have predicted so little damage near the WTC, if only informed that the towers had collapsed?
None of the videos show any evidence of demolition charges going off at the same time in a ordered manner.
What is easier to believe, that thousands of nuts and bolts and welded joints accidentally failed in an ordered symmetrical sequence causing
two 110 story buildings to drop in around 17-19 seconds, or that these thousands of nuts and bolts and welds were coaxed into their coordinated
behavior with a little help from electronically sequenced explosions?
And the belief that everything was symmetrical, shows just how little some on this board have studied the collapses or their wreckage pattern.
They stood until the firemen were on the verge of putting out the fires and then had to be blown out of sequence of the impacts to keep the fake
scenario going.
Except from the aerial videos we have of the Towers we know that in neither case, were the fires almost gone. In addition, we know that there were no
firefighters in WTC7.....next?
im pretty sure we all know wtc 7 was demolished, why it was demolished who knows alot easier to claim a total loss on a building then damages, wtc 7
also fell alot later so a hastey demolition could have been set up for an insurance scam. im also pretty sure a couple of people involved came forward
already. as for the other 2 towers they fell and the elevator shaft was intact for a long time meaning the weaked outer edge fell out first which was
the reinforcement of the strong main column so once the outer ring of support fell u see the main support column fall shortly after.
p.s no one died in wtc7 so who cares no one lol.
edited for ps
Lets see, we had just watched two buildings collapse after airliner impacts and fires. NYPD and FDNY reported that WTC 7 was so heavily damaged it
was going to most likely fall as well....and you think people were crazy enough to go in and wire a 47 story building for demolition??? Not to
mention it would take a full demolition crew a few MONTHS to wire a building that size....
Is there a reason that you guys don't understand that there were several stories of underground complexes beneath all those structures. My god you
had several hundred thousands of tons of material blow out all the underneath supports of all those building that were eventually taken down. Not only
did you have all the subbasement structures completely obliterated after the "very first" building come down but you also had ground level
devastation that no building is built to withstand. I realize as I type that its so useless, i know this is so by the number of rational explanations
put forth time after time and the countless irrational rebuttals and berating these people get when they do try to explain to you conspiracy theorist
scientific explanations for this. Its so simple not only did they take massive damage from 2 very large buildings coming down less that a block from
them, they also took untold damage in the structures below street. Its time to put this to rest, let families with love ones be able to go on with
their lives without having to log onto a website and have all those memories dug up time and time again.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Once again, I am surprised that the towers stood as long as they did from the damage they suffered from the airliners. As for "demolition" still do
not see any evidence of that.
Me neither. First off with all that smoke rising it is impossible to tell how fast the buiding fell. Also with WTC2 he shows how much damage the
building has. Close ups of it. And you can clearly see that a good part of that building is still standing after initial collapse. If it was demoed
would the whold building collapse to the street. If anything, this video proves there was no demo. Thanks. As for the person who asked about
building 7. When the trade center collapsed, tons of debris collapsed into that building. It did considerable damage to it. Watch around 2:47. You
can see half the building still standing after the initial collapse. Finally a video that proves no demo. Thanks!
Buildings are not demoed top down. The pancake collapse was just that. No seismographic indications of explosives were noted and the amount of
explosive to do the job would have been large. It would have been tough to set it up, and really tough to set it up, unnoticed. The speed of fall of a
collapsing building and a demoed building are the same. Explosives do not speed up the fall. Large structures are not "blown up," they have the
supports blown sideways and fall due to gravity. Fall rate is not a diagnostic for demolition.
WTC#7 was seriously damaged from impacts of WTC collapses. Those buildings did not fail symmetrically; check the videos you posted. Fires burned for
many hours. No explosions were detected seismographically. No explosions from HE were heard. There was no time to rig a building that was burning and
leaning. Firemen couldn't get in so how could anyone else? A quickie job would have required so much explosive that the blast would have been really
obvious.