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Originally posted by riggs2099
Why would people go on l;iving if they felt that lie was predetermined.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Whoever the anti-Christ is, I think I actually feel sorry for him/her/it if they actually do exist.
This is predetermined, as far as I'm aware, from the start of everything, much like Jesus in that it was obviously not something the Christian God threw in at the last minute.
To that extent the anti-Christ is a puppet, surely? Or as much a pawn in all this as anyone else? Yeah, the anti-Christ is 'the bad guy', but is that a free will thing? I thought Revelations &c was all going to happen anyway, no matter how much we're all good boys and girls. It seems to me the anti-Christ is having this 'job' forced on them like the rest of the Christian God's plan. Why?
If all this is the case, then why the hate? Are Christians hating the wrong person?
In before: I'm being blinded and tricked by 'the Devil'.
Originally posted by Incarnated
People are always pointing fingers at this one or that one and making claims that "they" are the antichrist. I have seen this poor biased behavior played out here and on many other websites.
Though those that would point their fingers at another claiming they be the antichrist are disturbed for sure, they are not the one's to point out the antichrist.
In fact, there is only 1 person that can is suposed to point out the real antichrist and that is the false prophet. That is the false prophet's job.
The false prophet must be disturbed but followed after by a loyal group of mindless followers.
It is commonly understood that the Antichrist, false prophet and rest of the devil's entourage would rise up out of the leading ANTI-Christ religion. This is Islam, not calling the "religion" evil nor the people but just the stance of extreamists. The islam religion has down stepped the Christ to a misunderstood prophet. That's classic antichrist understanding.
Nostradamus named Hitler as the "second antichrist" and hitler down played the christ for the german gods.
Now all this logic is going to be cast out the window in a moment as the face of the false prophet is about to be revealed. It's a face you all know well enough.
Well back in 1998 I was telling people this pop-star would end up being mostlikely to become the false prophet, actually I think it was well before that date as well, but that's all water under the bridge.
However when ever I spoke of that popstar as the false prophet one troublesome point would come up over and over that they were not part of the anti-christ's religion.
Well that all changed this week, and strangely right in line for the beginning of the seven years of tribulation starting May2009 and running up through may2016, otherwise known as the 2012 phenomenon.
So if you want to mostlikely be an insider and know before all your friends who the true antichrist is watch closely the fingers of this man.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by riggs2099
That isn't predetermined.... That is a natural action on the part of the body....if it was predetermined it would be a set time at a certain place. That is why i believe time travel to the future is impossible...perhaps the past but the future...no because it has not been made yet...so you would be unable to go to a place that doesn't exist. My argument is not lame...it is rational...but to reply to a comment in a childish manner...now that is lame.
[edit on 23-11-2008 by riggs2099]
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Somehow I don't think Michael Jackson would be taken too seriously; nor would anyone care what he said. Everyone would be like, there goes that nutjob again, and the anti-christ would be like, "oops, i f'd up." But someone who could be the false prophet:
Originally posted by Incarnated
People are always pointing fingers at this one or that one and making claims that "they" are the antichrist. I have seen this poor biased behavior played out here and on many other websites.
Though those that would point their fingers at another claiming they be the antichrist are disturbed for sure, they are not the one's to point out the antichrist.
In fact, there is only 1 person that can is suposed to point out the real antichrist and that is the false prophet. That is the false prophet's job.
The false prophet must be disturbed but followed after by a loyal group of mindless followers.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It is commonly understood that the Antichrist, false prophet and rest of the devil's entourage would rise up out of the leading ANTI-Christ religion. This is Islam, not calling the "religion" evil nor the people but just the stance of extreamists. The islam religion has down stepped the Christ to a misunderstood prophet. That's classic antichrist understanding.
Now all this logic is going to be cast out the window in a moment as the face of the false prophet is about to be revealed. It's a face you all know well enough.
So if you want to mostlikely be an insider and know before all your friends who the true antichrist is watch closely the fingers of this man.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Whoever the anti-Christ is, I think I actually feel sorry for him/her/it if they actually do exist.
This is predetermined, as far as I'm aware, from the start of everything, much like Jesus in that it was obviously not something the Christian God threw in at the last minute.
To that extent the anti-Christ is a puppet, surely? Or as much a pawn in all this as anyone else? Yeah, the anti-Christ is 'the bad guy', but is that a free will thing? I thought Revelations &c was all going to happen anyway, no matter how much we're all good boys and girls. It seems to me the anti-Christ is having this 'job' forced on them like the rest of the Christian God's plan. Why?
If all this is the case, then why the hate? Are Christians hating the wrong person?
In before: I'm being blinded and tricked by 'the Devil'.
Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by riggs2099
That isn't predetermined.... That is a natural action on the part of the body....if it was predetermined it would be a set time at a certain place. That is why i believe time travel to the future is impossible...perhaps the past but the future...no because it has not been made yet...so you would be unable to go to a place that doesn't exist. My argument is not lame...it is rational...but to reply to a comment in a childish manner...now that is lame.
[edit on 23-11-2008 by riggs2099]
I have a prophecy that I know is true. Test it and see if it be true or not. It is in the future, though I know not the day or hour. Here it is.
Everyone will die, me included. Even if it's thousands of years from now, every last man will die. The beginning all the way to the End, all will die.
How can there be a future if it is not anchored? We follow a time "line", point a to point b, point b to point c..etc. we could have a million points along the way, but when said and done...Point a to b. Beginning and End or we would not know what end meant, thus beginning.
"The long and winding road that leads to your door, you left me standing here, along, long time ago. Please don't leave me standing here, lead me to your door"...The beatles
Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by SaintlyMic
Your problem is that you mistakenly take the text of the bible to be more then it truly is. The bible is only a manmade EDITED version of church agreeded upon spiritual documents. You understanding is not right nor wrong, but it is more luke warm then cold or hot.
You orginized religious base level and misperceved understanding of the truer nature of the world events to come are a stumbling stone on the path of true understanding for you.
You'd not know what to make of Jesus if you met him, but it isn't your fault. If you wish to know the truth then pick up a better book. Check out the Urantia papers for a clearer understanding to "the truth".