Barack Obama & The New World Order

A very simple question: Where does Barack Obama fit into the New World Order?

I have read on this forum and others, that many believe no one gets into office, without the approval of the guys behind the scenes, ie. the New World Order.
So where does Barack Obama fit in?

Do any here believe he too is a member of this "Elite" group who have plans for world domination? If so, how? In what form does Barack Obama fit into their plans?

On the outset Barack Obama speaks of peace and healing. He is almost evangelical in his speeches and MANY people believe and hope he is going to come good on his promises. But peace and healing? Does that sound like the plans of the New World Order?

I was under the impression that this whole financial crisis is but one event of many, in bringing about the chaos that would set up this New World Order.
Where does Barack Obama fit in? Does he fit in at all? Was his election against their plans? Did the people of America and indeed with world, just witness a set back to the New World Order and their plans?

Or is Barack Obama indeed part of their plans ...?

ther are two possible scenario's as far as i'm concerned, either obama is an NWO guy or he is an upset.

there are signs that he is a plant, one way of looking at thing suggest that mccain threw the election away.

if he isn't a plant, he may well be assassinated.

actually, there's something else which is possible, perhaps he was planted so that he could then be assassinated before taking office, kicking off a public lash back allowing GWB to declare marshal law and a state of emergency.

anythings possible, let's give it a few weeks and see what happens.

I think he's just another Puppet, just like Bush and Clinton. He won because then NWO wanted him to win. Same show different Puppet!

With Obama winning, it makes America look like an open society! That can only be good for the NWO!

Thats what i think anyway, i could be totally wrong. I was wrong about the election win!

Yes of course he is.

Barack works for the same people that bush did in the end.

Bush was not by any means a Republican, they have been playing us from Republican to Democrat to Republican back to Democrat since Bush senior.

Buying the candidates they want and completely distorting the parties in the process until they at this point have no meaning.

Every one who wanted Bush wanted a real Republican Every one who wants Obama wants a Democrat

Bush folk are called Neo Cons because they deviated, literally in every way from traditional republican values

Like wise already words like Obamaton and others are used

Because he will be no Democrat

This is about Globalism

The US Moves Socialist/Fascist/Democratic just like Russia and China went from Communist to more Capitalist societies and Europe has become Very Socialist

The are equalizing the political structures across the entirety of the first world in a very similar social and economic and Govt system as best they can for a one world govt to eventually be possible

People rant about the USA becoming Socialist just as we raved about the USSR becoming a more Democratic Country

That we are all moving however to similar systems i can not doubt

Global financial powers of course would be behind this

and I would wager a guess, the way the media guides our thoughts and opinions

Religion being vastly reduced is part of the agenda

Islam took the first blows

Look to see as a guess, Judeo Christians faith do likewise over the next few years

Not extermination just enough that people doubt their beliefs and religion becomes, sidelined entirely world wide to the new government

They are regardless attempting to create a one world culture

My guess is, it's going to fail badly

I think the Global war on terror is simply a method of preventing people who would seek to maintain their identities culturally from fighting back...

i.e we loose rights in the States just as we conduct a war against Islamic militants... the results being, less extremism for belief everywhere


But yes... all of Bush's last moves were to pave the way for socialism via Obama, govt influence/control of banks... a property crisis which I guess will somehow lessen our rights to private housing


I do not actually think that Evil is behind it all, I think alot of modern theory is negative and revolves around over population and fears of planetary demise... and this is attempts, well meaning to adapt the population to what they think is needed to survival


and that it's not an optimistic view in terms of resources or space expansion etc, etc

I also think... control always backfires, even when well meaning is involved

i.e I don't think this path will work

YES!!, I agree, he definitely is just another puppet of the "masters" behind the scenes ...

The "different" options we are given are always illusions... the ones in charge, never change.

But not for long. I think.

Besides, take a good look at Obama, he gives me the chills.
Very creepy. Like the Pope. you can tell they are not good souls for real.
At least that's what my intuition tells me, and so far, it hasn't failed.





[edit on 5/11/08 by plutoxgirl]

Let's see. Bush is a total NWO shill because he expanded government, practiced human cataloging for the sake of "security" and picked apart the Constitution.

Obama will push to socialize medicine (human cataloging) for the sake of welfare. Expand government. Confiscate private property to fund it all. Support the "fairness doctrine" dictating to media outlets what they must show. Support a ban on barrel shrouds and bayonet lugs for pointless control and restriction.

And both love meddling with the economy for the cause of "fixing it" which 100% of the time makes it worse and kills the value of our dollar.

What do you think?

He's either straight NWO globalist or he's a moron who's been duped by the system. Either way the next 4 years will in the best case be just like the last 8 and in the worst case give us massive government growth, grand scale human cataloging, revocation of choice entries in the Bill of Rights.

But he's half not white so the world is a better place.

Obamas task was too ensure peoples support to presidential institution. Before they have give huge power to that structure to bypass the Agenda, but with price of Georges poor support... and now they achieved peoples support back, by giving them hope, the "change" and secure peoples blindless for their future acts. With Obama in the lead, they can act more wider again.

Obama is part of Agenda, no question about that. If there were now Ron Paul in his place, we still have our last chance. But we dont, so accept the new puppet...

I really don't think he's part of the elite, however, he does seem to be a socialist, and he does seem happy to use climate change to justify this BS carbon tax.

I think he's just a stooge who's been allowed in. Maybe he'll get eliminated and we'll have a Clinton in the office again.

Ether way, I'm not looking forward to the elite actions in the future.

I'm going to go with the idea that's he's a dupe. I think he may be set up for assassination by some stupid cracker patsy, which will, in turn, spark a race war. Thus saving the PTB time and trouble.
As I was watching all those happy people celebrate in Harlem, it occurred to me that being a white, middle aged, middle income woman, I have more in common with them than Obama does. But they haven't figured that out yet.
He is definitely an elitist. He and the wife both attended high end law schools. His girls are in private school.
I'd really like to believe in him. But, I just cannot fathom the fact that he could have gotten into office without the PTB paving the way.

I don't believe America is truly ready for him. That's why I think the way I do. Too many stupid people no matter what the color of their skin.

You have to look to the man behind Obama, Zbigniew Brezinski. When you study his mind-set you start getting an idea of the policy he's forming for Obama.

To give a peek into the mind of Brezinski, two books are essential. The first one written in 1970 and is titled "Between two ages" where he writes:

"In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason."

He wrote a book later that he titled "The Grand Chessboard" published in 1998 - I'll choose a few quotes just to give you an idea:

Page 35:
"Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization.".

and related on page 211:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

(underlined text: do something familiar come to mind or is it just me?..)

Page 209:
"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last."

Page 149:
"China's growing economic presence in the region and its political stake in the area's independence are also congruent with America's interests."

And finally page 197:
"With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design.... (p. 198) That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could eventually seek to challenge America's primacy."

As you can see Brezinski is describing not only a world order or empire, but also the methods to get there. However, dreams doesn't necessarily come through - most of them appear while asleep..

References:
www.amazon.com...
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Edit: sorry, my first edit didn't seem to stick..

[edit on 5-11-2008 by MaverickTheWise]

WOW MaverickTheWise

Thank you for that. I will definitely be looking into the info you provided.

Cheers.

Obama is a NWO puppet, although I don't think it began that way. Probably came to be over the past 6 months or so when it became clear that he is a socialist and can move the sheeple. Two scenarios: a continued move toward socialism over the next 3 years, but nothing too crazy - at least nothing reported by the MSM - then he gets reelected and NWO becomes a reality shortly thereafter. Or, more likely, a major crises occurs during the next year and he becomes the savior in which people give more power and loss of liberties.

Don't discount the assistance from Brezinski.

reply to post by Burginthorn


There is a thread about his NWO connections HERE

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Thats what I was thinking might happen, he gets assassinated or some event happens that brings martial law to this country..how convenient that it would probably spark racial fighting/rioting. Rodney King was done an injustice and LA paid the price, what do you think would occur if something horrible happened to him.

I don't think that anyone is going to upset the new world order plans in terms of voting for this candidate or that. Does anyone really believe that these people aren't bought and paid for from which ever party? c'mon it's the year 2008 folks..they're bought and paid for. The disgusting thing is all the people that are crying tears of joy for this guy, when they don't know a thing about him..unlike Obama, I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't make apeeches at planned parenthood meeting like Obama, or surround himself with ex-terrorists, and marxists...these people are so ignorant that it actually makes me angry that people would celebrate the very people sent to bring us down

For an analysis of HOW Obama will bring in the New World Order, take a gander at this thread over in the Above Politics forum of ATS:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is sobering for those who voted Obama, and disquieting for those who opposed his election for the wrong reasons.

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open society it is...you're spot on right about that phrase.
this is precisely the link...

No. I don't think Obama is any part of NWO. One of his mj. policy is to decrease U.S oil dependency on OPEC, which is against the benefit of global international bankers and multinational corporations. Relating everything with NWO is not a good approach to it.

[edit on 13-11-2008 by mrtyamara]

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I agree with everything you said, Starred.

Um.... not a one liner? Sorry didn't feel the need to re-iterate a point already made.

To clarify everything up. Both presidential candidates are both elite, you will not be a nominee if you are not apart of their plans. So no he is not an upset.

Research the Bilderberg Group. Every year the elite from all over the world meet there. And guess what every american president since this meeting has been going on has attended this meeting. Obama attended it and so did Mccain, and they gave the order for Obama to win.

Exactly like some of you said obama is so charming and speaks about peace and love. Just like HITLER did when he came into power, and germany loved him!!!

Side note: The NWO branch in The USA is CFR Council on Foreign Relations founded by David Rockefeller

Joe Biden Obamas Vice President used to be a major head of CFR
He is still a member and so is OBAMA and his wife.

Basically what happened is, american people started figuring out Bush, so now they throw people of track with an Obama, but obama is more dangerous because he has support of all the people behind him.

Mark my words, you are going to see an exact copy of bush, and our country is still going to go to #. whether it be obama, clinton, bush, or any other name you want to put in their.

The President is a puppet of the shawdow government they have no say, if they go against their given orders they end up assisinated like this guy below.

I bet non of you have heard this speach given by John f Kennedy, because i sure didn't, Listen to it and you'll know the reason why he was killed and assasianted.



[edit on 13-11-2008 by gselsidi]

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I DO beleive Brack and his wife are members of the Council of Foreign Relations. This is a major vehicle in the so-called "New Worl Order". Not to mention thta Obama IS related to both Cheney and Bush. The rest is just a matter of doing the research but there is a good start.