14 Points of Fascism: The Warning Signs.

In response to another thread here I included this url but felt it cried out for a thread of it's own.

14 Points of Fascism

1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

"You must glorify war in order to get the public to accept the fact that your going to send their sons and daughters to die."

2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

USA has at least 9000 Prisoners in Secret Detention.

3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Yesterday on Fox News, talk radio host Mike Gallagher said the U.S. government should “round up” actor Matt Damon, “The View” host Joy Behar, and MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann and “put them in a detention camp until this war is over because they’re a bunch of traitors.”

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4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Military Channels Are Competing on Cable TV

5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Bush Administration launches new battle in the War on Women

6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

US seizes webservers from independent media sites

7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses

Ridge reveals clashes on alerts

8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Park Service Continues to Push Creationist Theory at Grand Canyon

(cont. next post)

[edit on 12-9-2008 by silo13]

(14 Points of Fascism cont.)

9.) The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Bush Reappoints Mine Chief Who Bungled Crandall Canyon Disaster.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

President Bush Attacks Organized Labor


11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

New ruling will allow censorship of campus publications

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

Unfathomed Dangers in PATRIOT Act Reauthorization

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Big Contracts Went To Big Donors

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Powerful Government Accountability Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings


Every point isn’t just something I pulled up from the internet.
It’s living breathing fascism in the USA.
Do you think I’m being paranoid to say so?
Do you think this is all going too far?
But!
Going too far on my part and the writer of the original article?
Or the Governments?
I’d really like to hear what people have to say about this.




***If after viewing thsi post you think it would be more effective if I took out the links and left only the 14 Points would you be so kind to let me know?*** Thanks

[edit on 12-9-2008 by silo13]

OK City Eskimoes of Canada , this one is for you .

When i say that the 5th eskimoe grup that lives here in canada can LOG OLD GROWTH sowftwood and OLD GROWTH hardwood on my main and secondary rez , he can because I say so me , the GOK .

Look guys , with the forests gone wraith have nowhere to hide on us in the settler and native army and policing sevices .

The fishing in the interior of BC is non native boyz , I and other eskiomes shut down fishing on the BC caost by non natives for good , you CANNOT stop sport and commercial fishing in the interior of BC by non natives . Hunting is native only in all BC because there are GAME RANCHES that are safe from wraith . The other eskimoe group here hunt and fish with thier new status that fake inuit have lost . You cannot do ANYHTHING on my mian or secondary guys , the indian food store is for Indians and mountin eskiomes like me and the Green store in Canada are for Eskimoes/Hida and realins only . the scondary food from the green stores goes ONLY to the new eskiome food bank for canadian , Finsih , Sweedish , and danish eskioes only Mongolia aint here , trust me they never were on this level this is our ice age eskimoe party and the alein 5th eskome group is not only apart of this but he is Government of Canada .

Go away ritchie rich you alcoholic . We aint starvin !

Its a damn shame too. if only the American public sees it.

its not so different up here either. Canada is becoming more like the USA.

SauberBMW -
I don’t know how they can help but see it...
Must be the elephant in the living room yes?
So what are you all going to do when the North American Union goes through?
You all *Up There* going to fight it?
Or is the NAU just a pipe dream of the Powers that Be in the USA?
If I was in Canada I’d be worried that’s for *D* sure.

what can we do???
we riot or go against it, we are labeled as traitors
if we form an opposition and try to take over the Canadian government, the us in no doubt would come in and crush us. lets hope that this coming election, the Canadian people are smart enough to vote for some other party rather than the conservative a**holes

Originally posted by SauberBMW
what can we do???

"Fascism" is inherent to any human society, and will be, as long as fear remains the main motor of human behaviour. After all, it's just a fancy name for the manifestations of collective (and individual) defence mechanisms.

Those mechanisms aren't "bad" in themselves. They are what they are: a mindset of protection against "outsiders" that might endanger the bodily or cultural (spiritual) of the community and individuals. And those dangers can be very real, from a predefined perspective.

Which is why the plurality of perspectives typical of our Western (and increasingly global) society, the "multiculturalism" that is being so actively fostered, with the inevitable cultural friction that comes with it, actually reinforces the underlying fear, thereby reinforcing the defence mechanisms, therefore... You get the point.

Please note: I am not saying that "multiculturalism" is bad.
(I wouldn't want to live in any other kind of society.)
And it doesn't mean that intolerance, "fascism", has to be tolerated, or even applauded.
It certainly isn't inevitable - but only up to a point.

Because the fact is fear won't be disappearing from the human psyche any time soon; it's possibly THE root cause of every human endeavour.

Applying pressure to remove it ultimately only breeds more fear-based reactions.
Because, let's face it: human societies are reactive (which, again, stems from fear).
And so, every society, in every era, has its assigned betes noires, usually based on the immediately preceding collective (historic) experience.
The fact, however, is that these betes noires can be individuals or groups of people whose opinions simply happen to be (literally) un-popular.
(In fact, they can strike us as pretty disgusting. But the right to speech applies to ALL - or there is no free speech.)

And so, you get combating fascism with - fascism.
(One of its avatars being the well-intended but hideous and often counterproductive "political correctness")

The underlying reason is the same: fear.
(Which in its turn comes from a core existential ignorance, of course.
But that's a long story...)

So is the end result.

Which is why, I suppose, actively helping AGAINST spreading fear, while not "photogenic", is definitely the best viable option.

Recrimination and demonising of individuals or groups will only get us more of the same.











[edit on 12-9-2008 by Vanitas]

Here is a nice flash depicting Fascism,

Click here

Anti-flag: Anatomy of an enemy
This song also outlines alot of what you said and some not covered.

its sad because all of those are true

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Which is why, I suppose, actively helping AGAINST spreading fear, while not "photogenic", is definitely the best viable option.

Recrimination and demonizing of individuals or groups will only get us more of the same.

I don't want to agree with your post.
From a gut level.
My head tells me you're correct - but I still don't want it to be true.
I just haven't figured out what to do about it yet.

BUT! Then I get over being reactionary and remember...

"If you hold an anti-war rally, I shall not attend. But if you hold a Pro-Peace rally invite me." - Mother Teresa

And as I heard in *The Secret* - Something along the lines of if you spend too much energy on the negative, you're reinforcing the negative, spend your energy reinforcing the positive.

So yes, I see what you mean, I just have a rebellious spirit at the moment and would rather go out and kick some butt over this whole thing.

I mean how did America get where it's at right now!!!

Ugh.

Thanks again...





...waves peace flag...





[edit on 17-9-2008 by silo13]

Originally posted by silo13
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
Park Service Continues to Push Creationist Theory at Grand Canyon
(cont. next post)
[edit on 12-9-2008 by silo13]

Umm, because the park SELLS(or sold) the book, along with evolutionary geological books is NOT the same as 'pushing' religion on people!

I don't disagree with the other points!

reply to post by Clearskies

Umm, because the park SELLS(or sold) the book, along with evolutionary geological books is NOT the same as 'pushing' religion on people!

I don't disagree with the other points!

You're more than likely correct.
I only posted one link for each of the 14 points from the 30 or so I had to choose from at the original link.
I see I chose poorly, thank you for pointing it out.
I'll take a look and see if I can find a more appropriate link.

Thanks

reply to post by silo13


Thanks!
Great post!

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power.

-FDR

sorry but the facism of 40's Germany and 2008 america cannot be compared in the slightest

RT: I’d like to begin by talking about the Treasury department. They’ve decided to extend bailout funds to a number of struggling life insurance policies. This is in addition to the auto industry and the banks. Do you think Americans are aware of what’s going on?

G.C.: They know about it, it’s a new trend. America is going from what used to be the major capitalistic country in the world of free market ~ a crusader ~ into what Mussolini would have called fascism: the merger of state and corporate powers. So it is not socialism as people believe, it is socialism’s egalitarianism. It’s not communism where the state controls monopolies ~ it’s fascism, plain and simple.

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism
because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ~ Mussolini


The merger of corporate and government powers. State-controlled capitalism is called fascism, and fascism has come to America in broad daylight. But they’re feeding them it in little bits and pieces.

First AIG was too big to fail. Mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were too big to fail. Banks too big to fail and auto companies. And now we give money to the people that make the auto parts.

Source and rest of article: snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com...

Pictures speak louder than words.............This is now America

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With the last cartoon they should have also put stop insourcing and outsourcing our citizen's jobs to foreigners.

Lest we forget...

And now - on top of it all the USA is trying to take over Canada... (see link here)

This just keeps getting uglier and uglier by the day ...

peace

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Glad you've revived this thread. It's interesting, and still relevant.

reply to post by silo13


Whats is the point of warning people of fascism when you ignore what enables fascism. It is like the early prohibitionist's that complained men drank too much, so they focused on making booze illegal. But ignored the appalling working conditions men had to endure in that era.

Basically fascism is inevitable at this point, we already crossed the Rubicon. We will either see a kind of global fascism or national fascism, but at this point it is unavoidable because those opposed to it are willfully ignorant of what will fuel the rise of fascism in the 21st century.

I suggest everyone look up how Hitler used the homosexual dominant brown-shirts to scare the German establishment into accepting fascism. Today something similar is happening. TPTB are using gender feminist jurisprudence as the boogeyman to scare us into fascism.

They are doing it on a global scale. Look at Afghanistan and how the US is obsessed with girls getting an education and turning a willfully blind eye to the mass sexual exploitation of Afghanistan's boy's.

Look up the discrimination men in India face at the hands of feminist's. Look up in Mexico how married women are legally able to rape their husbands(in Mexico married men ignore and refuse to sleep with their wives if they think they are having an affair on them, now that has been made an act of domestic violence).

Look up the gendered discrimination in the American educational system. America's son's are being denied an education and later denied employment(because of illegals). A proven method of ensuring a large militant army that the fascist's can use.

The Tea Party movement and other such movements if they succeed will not stop the rise of fascism. Because they are willfully ignoring the persecution and oppression of younger males in our society because it conflicts with their feminine divine traditionalist dogma.

So if they win out, 10 years down the road we will get national fascism and a third world war. If the Marxist win out we will get brief global socialism to be replaced by global fascism. Either way the fascist's win.

Even if we try to stall they will just make it worse for us until people react the way they want them to.

Look at 9/11 if you doubt the effect of their emotional levers. Many now know it was an inside job, yet at a very deep emotional level many still loathe muslims to a large degree. That is why TPTB are so smug now.