Ron Paul to Run For President! [UPDATE: He Will Not]

If you would like to see the Ron Paul appearance on Cavuto go here:

Cavuto-Your World

scroll down the page to AMERICA’S ELECTION HQ

and the 1st clip is of the Paul interview.

www.lewrockwell.com...

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"Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning, Houston-area congressman who waged a feisty Republican primary campaign for president, is expected on Wednesday to urge supporters to reject the two major-party candidates and vote for any of the four minor-party contenders on the November ballot."

He's NOT running - he's endorsing ALL alternate parties and candidates, saying the John Jackson vs Jack Johnson isn't a real choice.

The National Press Club shall astound you.

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mckinney ventura
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rage

I think a tongue in cheek yet smart move would have been to find an African American female to run with. I know it screams some sort of reverse racism or what have you, but hey. That's our political system and a proven method to stop the press.

Originally posted by SectionEight

Originally posted by walkinghomer
reply to post by SectionEight

 

Would you say Ron Paul is a better representative for the Republicans/Conservatives or for Libertarians

None of the above.
Ron Paul represents the 18 to 25 age college student or the kid that lives in his moms basement who hates Bush with a passion, and has Che guerva posters on his wall just like Obama does in his campaign headquarters.

Untrue.

I'm 57, and sick of TPTB. The political conventions were for the "3-P"s. Posturing, Posing and Promising. Looking and listening to the automatons on stage and in the audience made me nauseous.

Ron Paul gets my vote, no matter what.

No Che "guerva" posters here. Mark Section 8 as a troller or disinfo agent who got my atten-hut!

Bilderberg, Schmilderberg. Few really believe that crap, except for the egotists who are members and think they can change the world and benefit themselves simultaneously.

Rob Paul has my vote. He is the only candidate I have found willing to tell the unvarnished truth I will write him in.

reply to post by Unit541



While I am an Obama supporter, I do like Ron Paul an awful lot. But I am an Obama supporter because of Pauls stance on the Education Department...Which is to dissolve it. You think American schools are suffering now? Get rid of all that federal funding and see what happens. Then there's his rhetoric about keeping government out off your shoulders but not out of a womans uterus. That spells social unrest for me, and I have about enough of politicians trying to legislate morality as though they had a monopoly on it or something.

You wanted legitimate reason's for not wanting RP as president, there they are. Those are mine. That said, if he did make it to POTUS, I wouldn't worry too much about him executing those policies, as he would have several years of fixing a broken military, a broken economy, broken borders, and broken international relations. He would probably do the ONE THING neither of the two frontrunners would do, prosecute GW Bush like the criminal he is.

I am a 53 year old grandmother who was going to write in Ron Paul. It would be my pleasure to vote for him as an independent, libertarian or whatever. I've been a democrat for 35 years but have been so turned off these past two presidential elections that I will not vote democrat again.

AND, I do not live in my parents' basement. Tee Hee!

Lets be real, this will only take away votes from the real two candidates.


But maybe, just maybe, if Ron Paul gets enough votes, there can be 3-4 parties next year. Can that happen? I don't know.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Unit541

 

While I am an Obama supporter, I do like Ron Paul an awful lot. But I am an Obama supporter because of Pauls stance on the Education Department...Which is to dissolve it. You think American schools are suffering now? Get rid of all that federal funding and see what happens.

Actually, I don't know about your particular State, but the one I live in, public schools are funded by "property taxes" not the Department of Education. The teachers also don't receive their checks from the U.S. treasury. Public school teachers are not federal employees. The department of Education is basically a worthless department that does, for a lack of a better word "nothing". They have a total of 5,000 federal bureaucrats, which do nothing except pass the buck as to how and what standards should public schools follow, which makes no sense, really since these standards should be set at the local level. In other words, they still enforce silly idealistic notions that say, that the "Civil War" was fought to free the slaves. Look at private schools, they have the best students and curriculum and do they need some central authority to decide what to teach?

The horrible state of our public schools is a result of government intervention, and the creation of more bureaucracy will not correct the problem, but make it worse.

Then there's his rhetoric about keeping government out off your shoulders but not out of a womans uterus. That spells social unrest for me, and I have about enough of politicians trying to legislate morality as though they had a monopoly on it or something.

How about this for a mind blower; the guy's views don't ever contradict themselves. Ron Paul, is a man of principle he believes that the State (Federal Gov.) has no right to take a life, at the same time he believes that this is a "States" matter. So he applies this, even-handedly on both the Death Penalty and Abortion. So, if you have a State that passes some measure to legalize abortion, well then, that means it's okay and it is legal in your state, that same principle also applies to other states that may not want to have abortion legal.

Why should the Federal government be in the business of deciding at what point LIFE is created, or by that same token determine when Death should be issued? It's certainly not written in the U.S. constitution. You said you want the FED out of your bedroom, then how is his policy contradicting your beliefs?

You wanted legitimate reason's for not wanting RP as president, there they are. Those are mine. That said, if he did make it to POTUS, I wouldn't worry too much about him executing those policies, as he would have several years of fixing a broken military, a broken economy, broken borders, and broken international relations. He would probably do the ONE THING neither of the two frontrunners would do, prosecute GW Bush like the criminal he is.

Well, you can believe that if Ron Paul was president he would pardon no one in this godforsaken current administration. Did you hear about what he said about pardoning "Scooter Libby", he said that he wouldn't pardon him, unlike the other scumbags on the debate stage. I can guarantee you that, if Obama or Mcain are elected, they will pull a "Ford" and pardon the outgoing administration and their shenanigans.


[edit on 10-9-2008 by Gateway]

Originally posted by '___'eed
Lets be real, this will only take away votes from the real two candidates.


But maybe, just maybe, if Ron Paul gets enough votes, there can be 3-4 parties next year. Can that happen? I don't know.

You were correct with your first sentence. Let's put this into perspective. Let's say Ron Paul's supporters follow his advice and vote for one of FOUR different minor candidates - can you be splitting the vote up any more than that? How in the heck is splitting your supporters' votes up one of four ways in any way going to help in this election? All it's going to do is take votes away from the two major candidates, but sprinkle them into one of four places - not nearly enough to make any sort of difference.

reply to post by sos37


I think it would make a lot of difference. Certainly enough to have Mcain and Obama worry and make this election a nail-biter, for the two sleezoids.

I like it, I'd like to watch the two sides of the same coin sweat it out a bit, maybe it would force them to change, and realize that they need to heed what other people in their party want. Rather than taking US for granted and making this a "business as usual", ho-hum type of election.

And to be honest, I think that's the point.




[edit on 9-9-2008 by Gateway]

reply to post by walkinghomer


ron paul actually is the republican. these other so called republicans are way off track. what we have seen from the last couple republican administrations is far from what real conservatives stand for.

if anything should be changed it should be mcsames label. john mclame should be running under the neo-nazi party and let the real conservative republican nominee be ron paul.

on a side note. this is all well and good if the game is not rigged. personally, i think the election process has been compromised. i cant be the only one that believes the last two elections were less than honest? not to mention the risk dr. paul is taking with his life. the only way we get a real american in office is to make it known before the election that this is what we all want. otherwise the poll numbers will be similar to what they are now. i find it very hard to believe that mccain and obama have been neck and neck in the polls from day one. just stinks of the media telling the public who they like and how much they like them. sadly a lot of people start to believe they formed that opinion on their own after a while. really strange to me.

reply to post by Gateway



While I believe you are correct in essence about how the DOE conducts itself within it's own construct it does not mean that we should get rid of it. Nor should it decide what is taught in schools. The DOE in my opinion would benefit from doing regional studies and applying it's policy accordingly to the states individual needs, and only where state law allows.

From 1998 to 2008 FED funding for education made up 30 percent of what Nevada needed to operate its' schools. The rate of growth in the State of Nevada is such that it has outpaced the rest of the nation by 5 percent over the last 25 years. Nevada cannot afford to educate all of these new students on State gaming, sales, and property tax alone, we cannot do it without the FED. And we are still at the bottom of the list in terms of graduation rates, and the levels at which students are being prepared for college.

At the state level one can blame the lack of economic diversification for the effects of our poorly funded education system. But at the same time, our rate of growth for 15 of those 25 years was largely supported and created BY the gaming industry...The problem came when the populations' needs outgrew the rate at which the state could meet those needs.

Not only that, but every tax initiative ever taken to fund education in this state has been redirected to prison development over the last 15 years or so, at the same time our shoddy education system has been producing nothing short of a class of people that are qualified for nothing more than general labor, these things breed criminal environments, and the state has a place to put you should you be among the majority of those left behind.

There are many problems at play in the Nevada education system, but without that fed money, education here probably wouldn't exist, it would be casinos and prisons as far as the eye can see.

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And thank you for clearing up Paul's stance on the abortion issue. If it were left at the state level, it would be a step in the right direction.


[edit on 9-9-2008 by projectvxn]

Originally posted by SectionEight

Originally posted by walkinghomer
reply to post by SectionEight

 

Would you say Ron Paul is a better representative for the Republicans/Conservatives or for Libertarians

None of the above.
Ron Paul represents the 18 to 25 age college student or the kid that lives in his moms basement who hates Bush with a passion, and has Che guerva posters on his wall just like Obama does in his campaign headquarters.

I know many RP backers & none of them fit that discription. well, maybe one, but...

Originally posted by SectionEight

Originally posted by walkinghomer
reply to post by SectionEight

 

Would you say Ron Paul is a better representative for the Republicans/Conservatives or for Libertarians

None of the above.
Ron Paul represents the 18 to 25 age college student or the kid that lives in his moms basement who hates Bush with a passion, and has Che guerva posters on his wall just like Obama does in his campaign headquarters.

I know I'm late and this post was early... But I beg to differ. I am 51, have no posters, and don't like The Dems or the NeocoNaziPulicans, either. They are a two-headed counterfeit coin tossed out to us in the "bread'n'circuses" (minus the bread) of the "elections," the only purchase of which is NWO.

I will vote for Ron Paul, because unlike all other candidates except Kucinich, he has the founding documents as the center of his platform. And after the rape and murder those documents endured under this (and previous) administration, it will be awesome to see them resurected.

reply to post by CaptGizmo


I saw a post by a few ATSer's stating that they would like to see what ATSer's would vote in the upcoming election seeing if people will really vote like they say they will. This poll is anonymous and only allows people to vote once so just click the one you want and the results will pop up. Enjoy....

p.s. it's on BTS because it wasn't allowed on ATS but nonetheless vote!!!

[edit on 9-9-2008 by baseball101]

Originally posted by projectvxn

While I believe you are correct in essence about how the DOE conducts itself within it's own construct it does not mean that we should get rid of it. Nor should it decide what is taught in schools. The DOE in my opinion would benefit from doing regional studies and applying it's policy accordingly to the states individual needs, and only where state law allows.

Umm, but doesn't this create a larger bureaucracy, and expands the DOE? Remember we currently have 5,000 people there. To do a study that would encompass 50 states requires additional funding, which will probably yield the same result Dr. Paul wants; which is less government restrictions on the funding and letting the States decide how to best mold their educational systems. (see below)

From 1998 to 2008 FED funding for education made up 30 percent of what Nevada needed to operate its' schools. The rate of growth in the State of Nevada is such that it has outpaced the rest of the nation by 5 percent over the last 25 years. Nevada cannot afford to educate all of these new students on State gaming, sales, and property tax alone, we cannot do it without the FED. And we are still at the bottom of the list in terms of graduation rates, and the levels at which students are being prepared for college.

There are some States that require a larger percent of the funding from the Federal government. Notice, neither Dr. Paul nor I have made the argument of cutting funding to the Schools. All he wants to do is get rid of the Bureaucracy that is known as the Department of Education. Meaning you have 5,000 bureaucrats that do nothing, have them pick up a "pink slip" have them find real jobs and be productive members of society, meanwhile freeing up that excess money along with the current amount to be given back to the States to decide their curriculum; thus, giving decisions and control back to the local level. Not the federal.

At the state level one can blame the lack of economic diversification for the effects of our poorly funded education system. But at the same time, our rate of growth for 15 of those 25 years was largely supported and created BY the gaming industry...The problem came when the populations' needs outgrew the rate at which the state could meet those needs.

Not only that, but every tax initiative ever taken to fund education in this state has been redirected to prison development over the last 15 years or so, at the same time our shoddy education system has been producing nothing short of a class of people that are qualified for nothing more than general labor, these things breed criminal environments, and the state has a place to put you should you be among the majority of those left behind. There are many problems at play in the Nevada education system, but without that fed money, education here probably wouldn't exist, it would be casinos and prisons as far as the eye can see.

I'm sorry to hear that your State's priorities are currently being misdirected, I just think a way to cover these shortfalls are by reducing the size of government to free up the money that is needed. Be it cutting the DOE, or the Military Industrial Complex, I think it's safe for me to say that both YOU and I would both rather see this money come from a decrease in government rather than an increase in taxes to cover this shortfall, in your particular State for example.

Unfortunately, neither candidate running for president has proposed this idea. Instead they talk about maintaining the status quo. What does this mean, ultimately for you and I? Well it means no real raise in taxes, (maybe) the maintaining of large and unnecessary government domestically and foreign, and an increase in the DEBT or Monetizing of the deficits. (In other words have the FED continue to print the money to pay for the wars, the large federal government , and decrease OUR purchasing power. Making the dollar purchase less and less, while making we Americans poorer and poorer, reducing our standard of living)

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And thank you for clearing up Paul's stance on the abortion issue. If it were left at the state level, it would be a step in the right direction.

No problem, I find pleasure in talking about the man and his beliefs.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by Gateway]

Originally posted by baseball101
reply to post by CaptGizmo

 

I saw a post by a few ATSer's stating that they would like to see what ATSer's would vote in the upcoming election seeing if people will really vote like they say they will. This poll is anonymous and only allows people to vote once so just click the one you want and the results will pop up. Enjoy....

p.s. it's on BTS because it wasn't allowed on ATS but nonetheless vote!!!

[edit on 9-9-2008 by baseball101]

Thanks baseball101....I went and cast my vote...and noticed that old Ron Paul had 58% of the vote so far. Nice job.