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Originally posted by MurderCityDevil
reply to post by jfj123
what suffering has the average hetero caucasian suffered to deserve such recognition for overcoming the odds?
seriously
2nd class citizens? thats a joke
its still a white mans world, sucks? yeah
Originally posted by ItsTheQuestion
These are valid questions. However, what purpose would there be, for instance, for a National Association for the Advancement of White People? Are whites not well-advanced in the United States?
I will not accuse you of being racist. I do, however, wonder how upset you get when contemplating these things?
And if you feel disenfranchised, alienated, left behind, ignored, repressed, etc., then what is the cause of such feelings within you?
And, more importantly, what is the solution?
For instance, I've noticed for several years now how, in commercials, television shows, and Hollywood films, the white guy is often made to appear as a bumbling fool, only to be out-cooled by a minority. Or how often do we see a white couple in a commercial, and the husband/boyfriend is a doofus, while his eminently wiser female companion is there to expose her man's simple-mindedness...
I took a film class at the University of Michigan in the late '90s called "Race and Ethnicity in American Cinema". This course attempted to expose the perpetuation of racial stereotypes in Hollywood--see 'King Kong', 'Gone With the Wind', 'Chinatown', etc. And, of course, it is a valid point. Nowadays, it seems like Hollywood has decided it can better serve its agenda [profit and persuasion] by more frequently putting the white male in the role of bottom-of-the-social-totem-pole, so to speak.
HOWEVER, we must remember the ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation of the VAST MAJORITY of the PTB.
[from 'The Good Shepherd', 2006]
Joseph Palm [played by Joe Pesci]i: Let me ask you something... we Italians, we got our families, and we got the church; the Irish, they have the homeland, Jews their tradition; even the n*****s, they got their music. What about you people, Mr. Wilson, what do you have?
Edward Wilson [title character, played by Matt Damon]: The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.
Tough to argue with that synopsis of things, however frustrating the reality may be.
My solution: don't waste too much energy getting too angry about it. In my experience, there are many things which are much more worthy of my attention then worrying about whether or not I'm being discriminated against. It is unfortunate human nature to be afraid of those who are different than we are. It's actually part of our animal nature. Fortunately, we also have to capacity to love. And rise above.
[edit on 8.19.2008 by ItsTheQuestion]
Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by jfj123
I agree with the premise of your post. My only question about B.E.T and other programming of its nature is if its purpose is to present a cultural outlet or simply a racial one. If it is the latter I think it would by definition be racist. However I don't see an issue with cultural programming or celebrations. I.e. St Patrick’s Day, Cinco de Mayo, etc.
Originally posted by jfj123
Very interesting points. My question is IF someone were to start a CET station, would BET accuse them of being racist? I don't know the answer but have a feeling they would.
Very interesting points. My question is IF someone were to start a CET station, would BET accuse them of being racist? I don't know the answer but have a feeling they would.
Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by jfj123
Very interesting points. My question is IF someone were to start a CET station, would BET accuse them of being racist? I don't know the answer but have a feeling they would.
Check out CMT [Country Music Television] now that's a white as rice TV channel if I ever saw one. Are they racist? I don't think they are.
Originally posted by harvib
I would imagine they would. It could be argued that Caucasian is not a culture but only a race where as American Black is a culture. I wonder if anyone would have a problem with an Italian entertainment Channel or an Irish E.C..
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are hetero caucasions 2nd class citizens in the US?
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Originally posted by ItsTheQuestion
I will not accuse you of being racist.