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Depleted Uranium weaponry spells world depopulation

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posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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In all that I researched and examined carefully regarding the current state of affairs in this world and the profound consequences we as a human family face, due to the policies our leaders have carried forth, most probably under orders from cabal, as many seem to be cousins, amazingly enough, this one, no longer hidden, and admitted to by the U.S. administration, is the most terrible. Though, insanely enough, they claim there is little health hazard to this, which would mean they are undermining the toxicity all the mountains of nuclear waste created by our armory and energy programs that we have been warned of for years, others are not as mentally undermined as they would like. Depleted Uranium weaponry is used since the 1990s large scale, has permanently poisoned our earth for countless billions years, and is turning our dna to mush.

I wish to give a warning as there are some disturbingly graphic pictures in the films, particularly the second one. I, myself, found them very hard to view.


US using weapons of Mass Destruction


and

Depleted Uranium - US weapons causing Iraqi birth defects



"Dr. Doug Rokke, U.S. Army Health Physicist/Nuclear Medicine Sciences Officer"
and

"Lauren Moret is a Geological Scientist and International Radiation Expert...."I've been a staff scientist at 2 nuclear weapons laboratories, 5 years at the Lawrence Berkeley Lab where the Manhatten Project's started, and 2 years Lawrence Livermore Lab."


From her interview:


Not only are the Middle East and Central Asia contaminated forever with radioactive depleted uranium, which has a half-life of 4.5 billion years, but it has contaminated and mixed throughout the global atmosphere, causing a global epidemic of diabetes and other radiation related illnesses....

Well, if you think about the thousands of tons of depleted uranium the US/UK have admitted using since 1991, that would be the same as releasing the radiation from at least 400,000 Nagasaki bombs into the atmosphere since 1991, ten times more than during atmospheric testing...

The DU is globally mixed in 1 year — it is found in the ice record in Antarctica, Hawaii, the Alps, the Himalayas, and even in the Andes of South America. There is nowhere to hide or any way to escape...

www.mindfully.org...


This must be stopped immediately. It is so incredibly urgent that we take action.




[edit on 15-7-2008 by mystiq]



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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I've noticed before the complete lack of response to an issue that is horrendous and affects every single person on the planet. Dr. Deagle said we had the fallout of these clouds that traversed the ionosphere and then rained this down on us.

Canada is one of the major suppliers of nuclear weapons, and its against its policies and agreements for the uranium supplied to be used as weapons.


"There is absolutely no doubt that every bit of depleted uranium (in the munitions used in the Balkans) has Canadian uranium in it," says Gordon Edwards, president of the Montreal-based Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility...

About 60 per cent of Canada's uranium exports go to the U.S., where the depleted-uranium ammunition used in the former Yugoslavia was made.

Canada exports uranium to the U.S. to be enriched because Canada has no enrichment plants. But Canada has no jurisdiction over how the U.S. uses the depleted uranium left from the enrichment process. Depleted uranium is primarily used in plutonium bombs, Edwards says, but the Gulf War saw the beginnings of another use of depleted uranium — ammunition.

The metal is used in weapons because it burns easily and it has great penetrating power — it's almost twice as dense as lead.

"It melts its way through armour," Edwards explains....

Canada has a bilateral nuclear co-operation agreement with the U.S. that states uranium exports to the U.S. can be used only for peaceful purposes.

This includes "control over the high enrichment of Canadian uranium and subsequent storage and use of the highly enriched uranium," a Foreign Affairs document states. The same rules that apply to uranium apply to depleted uranium, Schwenger says. "



Now I'm wondering what it would take for civilians to challenge this issue in court. As legally and in every way, this must be stopped.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 10:40 PM
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The U.S. has claimed that DU posed little health risk and yet in reality, has known about the true scope of dangers since the 1940s. The pdf shows the long list of information they have had for decades: www.grassrootspeace.org...


Even more deadly than radiation exposure it seems. Nano-particles have high mobility and inhalation is very hazardous as it crosses the barrier to the dna. It builds up with repeated exposure, as the winds continue to blow throughout a country (such as dry and arid Iraq which has been sentenced, along with Afghanistan and Yugoslavia to over 4 1/2 billion years of continual exposure, in other words forever.)

Winds have blown them throughout the world, as have the particles of debris from the oil fires in Iraq, found in South America and throughout the world, for billions of years these winds will continue to blow and the nano particles will build, and the increasing contamination will change our dna forever. While the birth defects may be high in the middle east, and amongst our returning veterans, we will not be shielded for long.

From the Gulf War where the DU became the norm in weaponry:

www.newswithviews.com...

Only 7,035 men were injured in this war. A total of 580,400 soldiers served in the first Gulf War. By the end of 2000 325,000 of these troops had become disabled This means that 56 % of those who served in the first Gulf War were disabled within less than 10 years...

and

In August 2004 American Free Press reported that eight out of twenty men serving in one unit during the 2003 invasion of Iraq had developed malignancies. This translates into 40 % of the soldiers in that one unit developing malignancies within a 16 month period of time...


The depleted uranium DU was also recommended as a permanent terrain contaminant which could be used to destroy populations by contaminating water supplies and agricultural land with radioactive dust. Current estimates suggest that the damaged soil in Iraq, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan will need four and a half billion years to recover from the radioactive effect of DU....

Another horrifying consequence of DU exposure is damage to sperm causing many severe deformities in the children born to veterans of the first Gulf War. A group of 251 soldiers from Mississippi, who all had normal babies before service in Iraq, were studied. Sixty seven percent of their post war babies were born with severe birth defects. These children were missing legs, arms, organs or eyes and had immune system and blood diseases. In some Gulf War veterans families the only normal children are those who were born before serving in Iraq. The Department of Defense denies any knowledge of birth defects in Gulf War I veterans.



I cannot stress enough that what is done there, will continue to be blown around the globe, and will continue to mount. There is no known treatment for the contamination to the human physiology. Though our leaders claim no knowledge of the severe consequences, their own research for decades belies this, and thus it means they have willingly compromized the entire future of our planet, and all of our lives and dna health for over 4 billion years (ie. forever).

Edit to add: out of a group of 251 soldiers from Mississippi, SIXTY SEVEN PERCENT POST WAR BIRTH DEFECTS OF THE MOST SEVERE KIND.


[edit on 15-7-2008 by mystiq]



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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Nice propaganda piece that second one, but I recognized several of the abnormalities as not being genetic defects, but common birth defects.

When I see a picture of a parasitic twin passed off as a genetic defect from radiation, I have to throw out any credability for the source.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 11:49 PM
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Depleted uranium rounds are very efective against enemy armor...why am I replying to this post?



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 12:11 AM
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I forgot to mention that I resent it when someone trys to control by beliefs with lies backed up by a horror puke show.

I refuse to puke, and will probably dismiss forever the possability of depleated uranium being harmful out of resentment. I always believed it probably was harmful before you tried to manipulate me with this ofal.

Now I am not so sure.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 12:14 AM
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If you've been around the dust from depleted uranium you'll be dead soon enough and won't have to respond to OPs like this one.

U.S. men and women are coming back with depleted uranium dust on their uniforms, in their hair, and in their bodies. They are exposing countless numbers of people who would never had been in the field of war.

The worst stories are those men who come home having served the USA, make love to their wives, and then their wives suffer, in their most tender tissues from the hot uranium-laced seminal discharge of their husbands.

The language of "depleted uranium" is a convenient scam in itself. It is still an uranium isotope. The only difference is that it has only 60 per cent the amount of radiation as natural uranium -- and that 60 per cent is far more conservative a figure than the reality. But we are still talking "radiation", folks!!

And although Bush and the Elites tell us that radiation is good for us, and torture is good for us, and being held indefinitely by the government is good for us --- it is all lies and damned lies. Those who have visited "depleted" uranium weaponry on the US troops and upon the world need to be tried for the war criminals they are, and after being duly convicted, they need to be sent to the executioner.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 12:25 AM
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Then why do they have to stoop to using pictures of parasitic twins to try and make us barf into submission?

Sorry the credability is lost, good day!



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 12:25 AM
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Then why do they have to stoop to using pictures of parasitic twins to try and make us barf into submission?

1, Key points, chemical toxicity 1 million times greater than it's radiological toxicity.

2, The salts are the most toxic form

3, The World Health Organization has established a daily "tolerated intake" of soluble uranium salts for the general public of 0.5 µg/kg body weight, or 35 µg for a 70 kg adult.


From Wikipedia:

Chemical toxicity
The chemical toxicity of depleted uranium is about a million times greater in vivo than its radiological hazard.[46] Health effects of DU are determined by factors such as the extent of exposure and whether it was internal or external. Three main pathways exist by which internalization of uranium may occur: inhalation, ingestion, and embedded fragments or shrapnel contamination. Properties such as phase (e.g. particulate or gaseous), oxidation state (e.g. metallic or ceramic), and the solubility of uranium and its compounds influence their absorption, distribution, translocation, elimination and the resulting toxicity. For example, metallic uranium is relatively non-toxic compared to hexavalent uranium(VI) uranyl compounds such as uranium trioxide.[47][48]

Uranium is pyrophoric when finely divided.[19] It will corrode under the influence of air and water producing insoluble uranium(IV) and soluble uranium (VI) salts. Soluble uranium salts are toxic. Uranium accumulates in several organs, such as the liver, spleen, and kidneys. The World Health Organization has established a daily "tolerated intake" of soluble uranium salts for the general public of 0.5 µg/kg body weight, or 35 µg for a 70 kg adult.




Sorry the credability is lost, good day!

[edit on 16-7-2008 by Cyberbian]

[edit on 16-7-2008 by Cyberbian]



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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Depleted Uranium is not actually a consipiracy. This is not a secret anymore, and its the same thing as throwing your nuclear waste around other countries. From the Manhatten Project on the U.S. has been fully aware of just how dangerous to our planet it would be, and they have deliberately developed this technology. The pdf is above as to their own studies and reports.
Th UN banned DU weapons, and further in their resolutions to get them banned called them weapons of mass destruction.

prop1.org...

Concerned at the alleged use of weapons of mass or indiscriminate destruction both against members of the armed forces and against civilian populations, resulting in death, misery and disability,

Concerned also at repeated reports on the long-term consequences of the use of such weapons upon human life and health and upon the environment,



The veterans who have returned from the Gulf War, (DU weaponry was newly implemented in Yugolslavia and the Gulf War) are now showing the devestating effects of this unimaginable misuse of our nuclear waste:


www.globalresearch.ca...
Of the 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are now dead, he said. By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. More than a decade later, more than half (56 percent) who served in Gulf War I have permanent medical problems. The disability rate for veterans of the world wars of the last century was 5 percent, rising to 10 percent in Vietnam.

“The VA secretary was aware of this fact as far back as 2000,” Bernklau said. “He and the Bush administration have been hiding these facts, but now, thanks to Moret’s report, it is far too big to hide or to cover up.”

Terry Johnson, public affairs specialist at the VA, recently reported that veterans of both Persian Gulf wars now on disability total 518,739, Bernklau said.

“The long-term effect of DU is a virtual death sentence,” Bernklau said. “Marion Fulk, a nuclear chemist, who retired from the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, and was also involved in the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in the soldiers [from the second war] as ‘spectacular’—and a matter of concern.’ ”

While this important story appeared in a Washington newspaper and the wire services, it did not receive national exposure—a compelling sign that the American public is being kept in the dark about the terrible effects of this toxic weapon. (Veterans for Constitutional Law can be reached at (516) 474-4261.)



This is a very comprehensive site put forth by Gulf War Veterans concerning DU.
www.gulfwarvets.com...
The information is staggering. Despite the level of toxicity to our planet, forever basically, I mean, our suns going to supernova 4-6 billion years, so this is a forever sentence to planet earth, so many are truly ignoring this topic. What is it? Between the war vets and official U.S. stance, people automatically gamble with the entire planet and trust the least trustworthy of individuals. Between the U.N. and the U.S.? The U.S. has conducted its own studies, in depth, and already knows. I feel so strongly for the families of those men and women returning from war, and those stuck in countries where this toxicity is mounting so quickly, however I realize in a number of years, we will be facing this everywhere. The heavy metal contamination stays trapped in our bodies and the layers of each new contamination from the world winds builds in us, unendingly. These weapons are illegal and Canada supplying uranium that gets used is violation of its own laws, and they are classified as weapons of mass destruction by U.N.

I'm wondering if its the word "depleted" that undermines its deadliness with most people. This is what is left after enriched, or fissionable, uranium is separated from natural uranium. The fissionable stuff is used in warheads and nuclear power plants. Uranium 238 is the bulk of the uranium. It has a half life of 4.5 billion years, and emits alpha, beta, and gamma radiation and can blow a very long ways on winds. The danger for the human genome is found to be even greater than higher doses of radiation, is found in the nano-particles, which are formed on every impact. These can penetrate the dna, and are in effect heavy metal poisoning, do numbers of things to the dna. We retain alot of them in our bodies for the rest of our lives. There is absolutely nothing depleted about depleted uranium.


mutage.oxfordjournals.org...

The purpose of the current study was to measure the toxicity of depleted uranium as uranyl acetate (UA) in mammalian cells....

This is the first report of the formation of uranium?DNA adducts and mutations in mammalian cells after direct exposure to a depleted uranium compound. Data suggest that uranium could be chemically genotoxic and mutagenic through the formation of strand breaks and covalent U?DNA adducts. Thus the health risks for uranium exposure could go beyond those for radiation exposure.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 10:42 AM
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From your source:

"Of the 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are now dead, he said. By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. More than a decade later, more than half (56 percent) who served in Gulf War I have permanent medical problems. The disability rate for veterans of the world wars of the last century was 5 percent, rising to 10 percent in Vietnam. "

That many guys from the First Gulf War may be dead, but how many were because of DU, and how many were natural deaths? Auto accidents? Suicides? Murders? Getting drunk and falling into a well?

Really shoddy research and just cherry picking facts and distorting them for their own means.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 10:53 AM
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Considering that the U.S. actually has research itself that depicts the horrors (see the pdf in the above replies) though speaks some psuedo-talk about it, and considering that this was first introduced by stealth because people would naturally come unglued, this is our deadly and forever toxic nuclear waste after all, the gulf war vets have been getting a lot of attention recently. A decade and a half later, and three hundred thousand odd on disabilities mysteriously, though only a much smaller groups were killed or maimed in the actual war. The studies are surprisingly enough more recent. Though the Manhattan Project should be the first clue as to the dangers. The war vets themselves are getting the depleted uranium issue. The U.N. is getting the depleted uranium issue. The veterans that had huge increase in birth defects, in the studies, have them POST-war. Even BBC has been reporting on this issue.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Funny how environmentalists complain about CO2 but do not seem to have any traction with DU.
Further proof, to me, that the environmental groups are government controlled.
They ignore the real threat and create fake ones, to further some agenda for a global tax.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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US and its allies covering up and denying DU's damaging health effects. The US and UK have forbidden any release of statistics related to the casualties of DU against civilians, refused to clean up the contaminated areas, and blocked international organizations, which leads many to call this war crimes, crimes against humanity, and they should be subjected to prosecution by international law which they are in violation of.
Downloadable pdf: www.brusselstribunal.org... by Dr. Souad N. Al-Azzawi
Assoc. Prof. /Mamoun Univ. for Science & Technology


Despite their outright lies and questionable studies to try and prove that spreading nuclear waste around is safe, more sane studies have been conducted, and will continue to be for many years. Another pdf out of a British study was conducted after pursuing information that was blocked under the freedom of information act, and concluded that fine particles of depleted uranium along with sand and dust particles from Iraq, that took only 7 to 9 days to get there, was responsible for the dramatic increase in radiation in the atmosphere over Britain.
www.llrc.org...

And closer to home, to my province of B.C.:

www.bbcf.ca...

Dr. Bertell spoke out on CBC TV recently, condemning the Canadian Navy and its use of DU for 'exercises" in the Atlantic, dumping six tonnes of slugs with DU near fish spawning grounds. The Navy says it used DU in ammunition for the Phalanx guns with permission of the departments of fisheries and environment, beginning at the time of the Gulf War. Claiming there is no danger from radiation to fish or environment, the Navy has no intention to clean up its dumping. However it also says it stopped using DU a year ago because of its radioactivity!


A brief mention on CBC TV of DU dumped off Vancouver Island has activists here researching for details. Canada is committed to not produce uranium for weapons, but under the Defense Production Sharing Agreement it sends uranium to the USA for enrichment. If we do not ask for it to be returned within 30 days, it becomes US property! Then it can be used freely for weapons and depleted uranium is given away for use in missile warheads and for as the USA navy says, " as mass for test and evaluation purposes."


Their own studies beginning with Manhatten Project, that fully briefed all the leaders of North America of the extremely profound dangers of depleted uranium for decades since the 1940s, irregardless of current trends to white wash it. This makes them criminally responsible for use of depleted uranium is truly illegal, and furthermore must be internationally investigated for crimes against humanity, and by this I mean all humanity. Now take this to the next step, the leaders, knowing the dangers, are dumping these used ammunitions in our oceans, including off of BC. Why? How could anyone think they have not intended all along to poison us. Cause if that was not their intention, they are mentally deficient.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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Excellent OP and thread, mystic. Very well done indeed.

The dangers of any form of uranium are not widely reported in the USA because the criminals that run the government and Department of Defense have other agendas that have everything to do with exterminating a large portion of the world population and making money while they are doing it.

The saddest part is that the rank file soldiers (as well as the recently militarised police forces across the USA) continue to defend the criminals in the White House and men like Donald Rumsfeld, when those same exalted leaders have total contempt for the soldiers and want to be sure they are sick, disabled or dead so that once they awake they cannot be part of a popular uprising.

Depleted Uranium use in weaponry is just the tip of the iceberg of evil that is the military-industrial complex, the Stasi-DHS and the Nazi-CIA, and the enemies of humanity in the White House and Congress of the USA.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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Thank you. I started this thread yesterday, on my birthday, because its been so much on my mind. Just a short while ago, nuclear waste and its hazards were widely reported, and the difficulty of storing this contamination which had so many dangers to the human race, and billions of years worth of damage to mother earth ecosystems. Now suddenly we are being asked to forget all of that, and allow these madmen to whitewash the entire thing as they began committing the most heinous of crimes, using that waste to make weapons and bombs. The UN has declared it illegal. Full studies of this really are only now beginning, as it stays in our dna indefinately. So it was my birthday message to raise some awareness to this, despite the lack of responses.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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It seems that not only Bush, but former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, should equally be found guilty for crimes against humanity and war crimes. Canadian law strictly prohibits the use of exported uranium in weaponry:


commonground.ca...
The Government of Canada is in non-compliance with the statutes and regulations of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission (CNSC), prohibiting the use of Canadian uranium in depleted uranium (DU) weapons. Moreover, Canada has a bilateral nuclear co-operation agreement with the US, under which uranium exports to the US may only be used for peaceful purposes, and not in weapons. This includes “control over the high enrichment of Canadian uranium and subsequent storage and use of the highly enriched uranium,” a Foreign Affairs document states. The same rules that apply to uranium apply to depleted uranium, according to the CNSC.
DU weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction under international law. Thus Canada may be complicit in the US use of weapons of mass destruction in the 1991 Iraq war I, the 1998 Balkans war, the 2001 war in Afghanistan, and the 2003 Iraq war II, where the British medical journal Lancet estimates that one million civilians have died. In each of these wars, it is likely that depleted uranium in the DU weapons used by the U.S. and the UK comes from Canadian uranium exported to the US



And its really interesting that an International Tribunal for Afghanistan at Tokyo in 2004 found Bush guilty of war crimes against humanity:


After 3 years of investigation by 60 expert witnesses and jurists at a cost of $1 million raised by Japanese citizens, the International Criminal Tribunal For Afghanistan at Tokyo on March 10, 2004 found President George W. Bush guilty of the war crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes for the use of depleted uranium (DU) weapons by US forces in the 2001 war against Afghanistan.


And this article points out the path Canada is choosing is to aid and abet US and UK in their war crimes.


Here we have a clear case of the establishment of crimes, and the lack of motivation to prosecute. I think its time to go beyond finding them guilty in various commissions and investigations. Its time for the world to prosecute!!!!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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In my opinion, mystiq, an excellent and well researched post. Unfortunately I don't think you should expect many positive responses to this from US/UK posters
I say this because I suspect that the ones who are savvy to DU effects are in denial, as it is such a massive and unjustified crime against humanity.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Thats why I will keep researching the topic, and sharing what I find. This is something that not only concerns the areas targeted, but each and every one of us, but every living thing on earth. Sooner or later awareness will catch on. In any case thank you for the positive support.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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I predict that the discarded weapons made from DU will come back on the users in the end. Already the US troops have suffered a lot of problems from accidental exposure to DU. What I am talking about here is the purposeful exploitation of discarded DU by the insurgents. DU can burn and if they put a DU round in an enclosed space like a building and burn it with some termite or a shaped charge it will cause wide spread contamination to the building that can shut down operations for a long time.

If they used this in the mortars they are firing into the green zone it will be a mess. The insurgents have studied the tactics of the war in Vietnam that ended in a US retreat and in that war one of the largest problems was IED from discarded, captured, or undetonated munitions. The same is happening in this war. I think if they turn these DU weapons against the US it will end them being used in their war effort. That is how it will end I think.

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