Howard Huges and UFO's?

Fellow ATSians. This is my first post so be kind to me please. This is fanciful thinking on my part, and I don’t believe this topic has been brought up before. Anyway, I was watching a documentary on Howard Hughes the other night. It started me thinking about his rise to fortune in the private military/industrial complex. Beginning in the early 60’s, his privately held companies started creating state of the art electronics, satellites, missiles, aircraft and who knows what else for his ever increasing military contracts, My thoughts for my fellow ATS readers is this. Could Howard Hughes, with his many faceted industries and inside information, have secrets of captured UFO’s? Could he have had knowledge of aliens? What if, in combination of his plane crash addiction to pain killers, could he have been over medicating himself for other reasons too? What if this knowledge was too overwhelming for him and it caused him to fall more deeply into a delusional state? Obviously this is all conjecture, but I think it will be a fun topic of discussion.

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Howard Hughes died of complications from Syphilis,so who knows what that brain of his was thinking during these times.He carried that disease for like 30 years.It attacks the brain in the late stages.He was a billionaire aviator with a exceptional mind at the time.Do i believe that he was linked to ufo's or aliens?No.

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Sorry for the miss spelling! "Hughes"

This is from a suppose ufo link.

Howard Hughes And UFOs

While recently digging through a file of formerly classified FBI reports
on UFOs, I came across an intriguing document titled Flying Discs that
was dated July 31, 1950. Brought to the attention of J. Edgar Hoover, it
dealt with the following letter, which had been forwarded to the FBI by
the editor of a Chicago-based newspaper. The subject matter? Claims that
none other than eccentric millionaire and aviation genius Howard Hughes
was linked with the truth behind the UFO puzzle. It reads:

Since we are on the brink of a third world conflict, the world is more
air conscious than ever. Aviation in some phases is yet in its
pioneering days. Much talk goes on about the flying saucers or discs.
The saucer we speak about is not a military secret, and is not yet owned
by any government.

The flying saucer which was seen over south Chicago last April is a
large fuel tank with crystal glass wings. It has two large jet engines
on both sides. It is radio controlled. It resembles a saucer very much
when in flight. The wings cannot be seen on a clear day. This is so it
is a most difficult target for anti aircraft gunners. The reason for the
large flat gas or fuel tank is to give the ship a long range for atomic
bombing.

The ship was financed by Howard Hughes, millionaire aviation enthusiast.
It is now being tested by the Glen F. Martin Aircraft, Co., makers of
the Martin Marauder. The craft is only made for one way trips. It has a
range of 4,000 miles, ceiling of 25,000 feet, and a speed of 750 miles
per hour.

So far only a few of these craft have been made, and they usually are
pitched in the lake or ocean as they cannot be landed. They are merely
to carry a bomb of high destruction to enemy country. They have no
wheels, but small steel rails on the bottom from which they take off.
All other mechanism can be explained in detail. The man who welded the
ship says it is by far the best long range bombing instrument he has
ever seen. The name of the ship is the "Danse Macabre."

This is a strange story, to say the least. Was Hughes really implicated
in the UFO mystery, as the letter-writer suggests? FBI files reveal that
the newspaper in question did not wish to publish the letter, since it
was felt that "the Army desired that the matter be kept confidential."
Why, one may ask?

The Bureau took little action beyond filing the letter; but the
reference to Hughes is certainly intriguing - FBI records show that none
other than contactee George Van Tassel had once worked for Hughes
Aircraft, and the 1976 book The Hughes Papers, written by Elaine
Davenport, Paul Eddy and Mark Hurwitz reveals a wealth of data relating
to Hughes' connections to the CIA.

Was the account related to the FBI genuine? A hoax, maybe? Or the
product of a deluded soul? Maybe it's time sometime dug a little deeper
into this weird tale?

Alienstar. Wow, thanks for that. Like I mentioned in my origianl post, I thought it would be a fun topic. Your provided info was something I haven't heard about, thank you. But, what if, this was just a front for a more engaged program of a new type of propultion?

Well at the time it was state of the art technology and original.Makes you think since really noone knows how he actually died and its just by theory of the syphilis.Maybe he wasn't sick and just exposed to something not from earth.There is not much info out there on his autopsy and been rumored he was buried off the greek islands.So question is why all this???You have to think back in the day with his huge military contacts and exposure to presidents and top officials in the government.I smell a conspiracy here myself.Also another thing i forgot to mention that his last decade of his illness he was strickly confined to a airline of his own.Nobody was allowed to see him until at the time of his death,they removed his body off the plane by his private docs and nurses.They said he was so deformed and fragile you could even id it was him,til they pulled the dental records.Weird stuff.

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Just out of theory:
I think we can also suspect that for some reason our military might have tried to jump start some of these retreived UFO craft. Possibly to assist the occupants off the planet.They may have attached or supported one with wings and air plane engines to get it off the ground. This may also be what happened with that alleged project Mogel by using balloons to get these off the ground. Maybe the Hughes assisted system worked. Most people believe our military would kill these aliens for their ships and technology. But, that doesn't mean it's true.

Originally posted by aleon1018
Just out of theory:
I think we can also suspect that for some reason our military might have tried to jump start some of these retreived UFO craft. Possibly to assist the occupants off the planet.They may have attached or supported one with wings and air plane engines to get it off the ground. This may also be what happened with that alleged project Mogel by using balloons to get these off the ground. Maybe the Hughes assisted system worked. Most people believe our military would kill these aliens for their ships and technology. But, that doesn't mean it's true.

Project Mogul had a definite purpose, I think you're on the wrong track.

But I don't think we can rule out Hughes having knowledge or at least an indirect role in UFOs. He may have owned technology/aerospace companies with defense connections benefiting from the latest "foreign" R&D.

I read some of the first ceramic missile nosecones may have been inspired from recovered ET tech.

Originally posted by alienstar
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Howard Hughes died of complications from Syphilis,so who knows what that brain of his was thinking during these times.He carried that disease for like 30 years.It attacks the brain in the late stages.He was a billionaire aviator with a exceptional mind at the time.Do i believe that he was linked to ufo's or aliens?No.

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Re Syphillis:

Hughes may have contracted syphilis as a young man, and some biographers believe that much of the strange behavior at the end of his life, for example his well-documented aversion to handshaking, may be attributed to the tertiary stage of that disease. However, Dr. Forest Tennant disputes the idea that Hughes suffered from syphilis later in life.[20] The condition is thought to have first manifested itself in the form of tiny blisters that erupted on his hands. After receiving medical treatment for his symptoms, Hughes is said to have been warned by his doctor not to shake hands for some time and avoided doing so for the rest of his life.

His erratic mental condition was due to a condition called OCD, (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), which started in the late 1950's or earlier.

By the late 1950s (if not earlier), Hughes had developed the debilitating symptoms of ADHD, Agoraphobia, and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), which made itself manifest in various ways. His mother may have suffered from OCD, and coddled and spoiled her only child. It was Hughes' mother who first provided her young son with a means of escaping social situations and pressures by using the excuse of illness. As a young boy, when Howard wanted to attend summer camp (during a time when the public feared the spread of polio), his parents wanted assurances that their son was protected. When this assurance was not forthcoming, his mother decided it was better to keep him home. Subsequently after attending camp one summer, Hughes avoided another year at camp by complaining about headaches and bad dreams when he returned home. Later, on the verge of adolescence, young Howard became ill and was kept out of school for most of the year. He developed a form of paralysis that was never diagnosed and which disappeared after several months

Source

He did not die from complications from Syphillis, here is a brief from the autopsy.

A subsequent autopsy noted kidney failure as the cause of death. Hughes was in extremely poor physical condition at the time of his death; X-rays revealed broken-off hypodermic needles still embedded in his arms and severe malnutrition. While his kidneys were damaged, his other internal organs were deemed perfectly healthy.

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