First Mars Pictures from Phoenix lander!

Maybe we are getting carried away with all this scepticism?! LOL!

I don't think any of the landings are faked. Its just that they pick barren non-life sustaining territory to land on. This way they can claim we went there and found nothing.

If they want life why not go back to cydonia??? I can't believe nasa passed the mars face as an 'optical illusion'. For gods sake that excuse was so pathetic I can't believe anyone swallowed that!
And what about the tetrahedral pyramids? I strongly suggest reading "NASA: Dark Mission" by Richard Hoagland to get an depth analysis of whats really going on. He blames high ranking masons, nazis and others.

Apparently there are two branches of nasa. One is public which everyone is familiar with and a military branch that conducts covert operations. I wouldn't be suprised if they operate the black budget ufos, perhaps the triangular kind aka auroras.

reply to post by zorgon


Yes and now you know why some of the photos from NASA of Mars had a blue sky, which they claimed hadn't been "corrected" yet. For NASA, "correction" means "faking".

Take any photo of the Atacama Desert with a blue sky, spend about 10 seconds in Photoshop, and you have a pink sky like the photos of "Mars" that we have been seeing.

""But what about all the people working on the rover project! Surely someone would tell us it's fake!""

Well, when you have a billion+ dollar budget, it would be a drop in the bucket to bribe every person a million dollars each. Let's be realistic, wouldn't you cover something up for a MILLION dollars? Hell I would.

And the ones that don't take the bribes just get laughed off as conspiracy theorists or "tin-foil-hatters" any way.



[edit on 27-5-2008 by AgentStovkowski]

[edit on 27-5-2008 by AgentStovkowski]

There has been a technical glitch in NASA's mission to Mars.

A day-and-a half after the Phoenix lander touched down near the planet's north pole, it is not getting its commands about what tasks it is supposed to carry out.

NASA officials say the problem is with a UHF radio on the orbiting spacecraft, but they are not too worried about it yet.

www.abc.net.au...


Not too worried???, thats the way to be Good one NASA.

Originally posted by AgentStovkowski
Well first of all, Nasa has never sent any probes to Mars. The images are all of the Atacama Desert in Chile.

Why did NASA choose the Atacama desert to take photographs in? Because the terrain is plantless, contains little life, and greatly resembles the terrain on Mars.

How do you know they never sent any probe to mars

Why are you assumming this mission is totally fake

Seems like an outlandish theory even for a conspiracy theorist. Sure they may create a false background to mislead people but what about the pictures of cydonia; the few that did make it out!

It seems to me that something fishy is going on on mars and while everyone is busy trying to find microbial life they are either (1)in contact with some advanced human/alien civilization, (2)searching for precious metals or (3)both and more.

Somewhat off-topic but I remember reading about american astronauts seeing ufos on the moon and being warned off. Perhaps this is the reason why they are not planning more lunar missions.

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Where are the ESA version of the images?

Does anyone know why the JPL team keep claiming that there can only be water in the polar regions? I'm pretty sure that's just not true...

Interesting Item:

Seems NASA has employed ATK - An Advanced Weapon and Space Systems Company

ATK Ultraflex Solar Arrays Deploy and Provide Critical Power to the Mars Phoenix Lander

atk.mediaroom.com...

Hehehe Nothing unusual about that I suppose

.... i just founf this picture on nasa site ... it's not the real picture but it's still interesting that they're showing mars with an ocean (or some other blue thing) .... does anybody knows what this represents on their image?

[edit on 3-6-2008 by baburak]

On the site if you see other pics i saw one with a plan for the "flying saucer" like craft since 1908-1914 .... and it's funny that there were alot of explanation and types showing the wind resistance and stuff .... i don't know what number of photo was it .... but i'm pretty sure it was in first 2000 pics ...
And actually there's a lot of pics showing moon in better color than other pics (little more brown)



It's not the one but still funny

[edit on 3-6-2008 by baburak]

Originally posted by baburak.... does anybody knows what this represents on their image?

Ancient Seas

When NASA started..

Mars was dry and lifeless

Then...
Mars MAY have had water a long time ago
Mars most certainly had water a long time ago ... see the deltas
Mars MAY have liquid water flowing today
Mars HAS water mixed in with CO2 ice at the poles
Mars HAS water frozen enough to cover Mars 33 feet of water if it melted

Mars MAY have life (seen in a meteorite that was formerly a piece of rock on Mars that mysteriously achieved escape velocity from a supposed impact... then achieved escape velocity from Mars to head to Earth, where it miraculously landed in Antarctica... where it melted out of the ice and von Braun and his team managed to find these "Mars Meteorites")

The odds of this scenario are astronomical (I would love to see the vector and force calculations to make this happen ) but that is NASA's story and they are sticking to it

ANCIENT SEAS ON MARS posted at Space.com



What is REALLY FUNNY is that in the picture you linked.. NASA STILL shows the moon as black and white



And they picked the Copernicus Mining Operation

I don't know if this is legal or not, but I lifted this from Crow's. However, these are still FROM Official Project Phoenix photos with color added.

www.abidemiracles.com...

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Either there are people on Mars OR NASA is taking photos someplace else.

Sundial on Phoenix Lander



Closeup of the ever red Martian DIRT... not a bit of snow, ice, water CO2 ice in sight nada zip nothing




Larger version



Funny though it seems Phoenix has several sundials... but this image shows what happens with a reflection off a bright object...







[edit on 14-6-2008 by zorgon]

Originally posted by AgentStovkowski
""But what about all the people working on the rover project! Surely someone would tell us it's fake!""

There was a story about a worker seeing into a room where images from Rover where being shown... in the image there was a person on the film... I have been looking for that story but have not found it again since I heard it and have not had time to ask others in the field.

I will try again when I have time off for the summer and see if it pops up

Originally posted by zorgon
Interesting Item:

Seems NASA has employed ATK - An Advanced Weapon and Space Systems Company

ATK Ultraflex Solar Arrays Deploy and Provide Critical Power to the Mars Phoenix Lander

atk.mediaroom.com...

Hehehe Nothing unusual about that I suppose

ATK recently had successful test firings of kerosene rockets in space. This would make it much more feasible to use regular old jet fuel...and the follow up to the Raptor may be making it into space (or high enough to require an engine that could fire in space like environments).

It looks like we are going to see a continuation of conventional technologies for the foreseeable future. They have been poised to push US aircraft into suborbital elevations using our primitive technology.

[edit on 14-6-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

Not only that but ATK, Russia and Robert Bigelow are in 'cahoots' building a new spaceport in Russia... the one where Bigelow launched Gemini I and Gemini II

We are currently tracking them at Pegasus seems they are close to the ISS right now

www.thelivingmoon.com...