A kid at my school just got STABBED

Okay. So today at the end of lunch one year 10 stabbed another year 10 at the lockers!
The thing is...this kid had been taking [snip] from the other kid for years. Like bullied NONSTOP for years.
And hed been threatening the bully for a while with a knife, but no-one belived him.

So today, the bully threw a ball at the kid. So the kid grabbed this knife out of his pocket/locker (im not sure which) and stabbed the bully in the leg. With heaps of kids around to see. This is how angry he was. A girl teacher had grabbed him by the arm but let go as soon as she saw the knife.
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He stabbed him in the leg and it bounced off (of the bone apparently) and then shoved it in again, pulled it down and twisted it around. EWW.
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The bully had to get 5 stiches and hes out of the hospital now.

Most of the kids at my school are saying "good on" the guy who stabbed the bully. Cause the bully was a [snip]head to everyone.

Im really annoyed, cause i went home and watched the news.

They said that all that happened was...
a kid kicked a footy at another guy, and the other guy majorly overreacted and grabbed a 10 cm knife out his locker and stabbed him.

It really bugs me cause my school has such a BAD reputation. And theres no reason why it should. And the news has twisted the info around saying that my school is a bunch of knife-wielding freaks.

The guy who stabbed the bully has been arrested and is going to kids court.
I dont agree that the kid should get out of punishment, but he HAS been bullied everyday for years and years.

A) Why wasnt the bullying stopped before this happened?
B) How could the school just let kids come in with knifes? Apparently this kid has been seen with a gun as well.

Any comments? Opinions? How this school is being punished for one kids actions? How this kid was bullied for so long? How this knife wasnt found or prevented from coming into the school? Others?

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[edit on 22-5-2008 by Gemwolf]

The more you look at all this school violence, you see a lot of it comes from schools that don't crack down on bullying. It's easier to do nothing than risk getting sued I guess...

I've even seen schools (notably ones that overemphasize athletics) that seem to encourage and reward it. My one young friend, small for his age, (he is kind of an adopted nephew really) got picked on relentlessly by this one bunch of kids his first year of HS, and it was ignored, despite teachers' complaints to the vice principal. Finally the kid freaked out and said he was going to shoot them (he's never had or fired a gun) and he got expelled.

Funny thing is the kids who had been picking him were all on the football team, and the vice pricipal in charge of discipline was - surprise - also the football coach... hmmm

He dropped out and got his GED.
I can't say I blame him.

Oh my word!

What is it with this generation, conspiracies aside, that drives them to commit these horrible things?
Is there some kind of brain deficiency or something? Not all these kids come from bad families. Some are good families.
I wonder if some kids souls are just leaving the body and being overtaken by evil forces?

I remember one story which said after the kid opened fire, and killed his school mates, he broke down crying and said he didnt know what happened!!!!!

Its so hard to think of that beautiful baby you may see in a stroller being the next mass murderer. :shk:

I wish i knew so many answers.

Wow. I'm sorry that that happened, was this in the USA?
I'm not sure why little has been done about weapons being brought into my areas schools, even the earlier grades. Although my high school did hire a police officer... but no metal detectors or anything. About bullying- I think it was my school, or county, or state schools that required bully prevention education for teachers.

It would be nearly impossible to squash out all cases of school violence like this but one of the first steps is telling somebody. It sounds like someone saw him with a knife and/or a gun more than once before the incident, sounds completely preventable.

When I was in maybe the 4th or 5th grade I saw my neighbor show a small pocket knife to his friend when he got off the bus. I should have told somebody but I didn't, he and some of his classmates ended up attempting to stab his teacher. But I knew if he found out I got him in trouble he was my neighbor... and he had a knife. I imagine the same thing ran through the mind of someone who could have told on either one of the two. The bully or the boy who stabbed him.

I take it you're referring to this incident:

THE stabbing of a Year 10 student by another 15-year-old at a northeastern suburbs high school today was the culmination of a long-running feud.

Just before 2pm, a male Year 10 student at Golden Grove High School kicked a football that hit another Year 10 boy in the head, police told reporters this afternoon.

It is understood the pair had a long-running feud dating back to Year 8.
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[edit on 22-5-2008 by Gemwolf]

I've seen bullying when I was at school, and even when I was at college.

It's not pretty - I even stepped in myself to stop it when I saw it happen.

I wasn't a big kid, and nor am I a big adult, but I was always feisty and well able to handle myself, which deterred the bullies.

The only way to stop a bully is to stand up to them - make them think twice.
If they know they are going to get some back, they'll pretty much back off - you have to remember that most bully's are cowards.

However a knife is NOT the way to go - I feel sorry that this kid felt he had to resort to a knife, but what he did was just as wrong as what the bully did, if not more so.

He can't have just lost it - this was planned - not only was he carrying the knife, but he had the presence of mind to stab at a relatively non-vital area (although he could have quite easily hit the femoral artery)

Sounds to me like someone gave him some "advice" on how to stop the guy and how to inflict a non-lethal injury - he'll be lucky if he doesn't get locked up for this.

Do you realise the cost of bringing in metal detectors, security to use these machines and on ground patrolmen to school. The school, no the government don't and will not fund schools for these type of things. It's not the teachers fault. They all in all don't get paid enough or even credited enough for their work.

Bullying is a problem and its hard enough to monitor it an combat it.

I admit I did bully some people during high school. But that was early during the years. Afterwards got along with everyone since I got to know them for who they were. I never did bully anyone intentionally. Only did happen when me or my mates were provoked. Sure it was never the right thing to do but you gotta realise the school yard is treated as a prison yard now a days. If you show weakness you will be confronted or de-socialised.

The kid getting picked on could of done many things to prevent the bullying. Getting help from the school staff, addressing the police, or even as far as switching schools. Just because some kid is picking on you doesn't mean you can justify stabbing him. Believe me if it did I would of stabbed alot of people. You just simply can't do that in this day and age. His action constitutes aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Which has very very stringent punishments. You can't use the bully excuse in court either. They will just tell the stupid kid that he should of done this, this, and this. And you should NOT of stabbed him.

Were just lucky he didn't grab some assualt rifles and shoot up his school because his life is so hard. Kids like this don't even know what hard is.

Originally posted by Gemwolf
I take it you're referring to this incident:

THE stabbing of a Year 10 student by another 15-year-old at a northeastern suburbs high school today was the culmination of a long-running feud.

Just before 2pm, a male Year 10 student at *****High School kicked a football that hit another Year 10 boy in the head, police told reporters this afternoon.

It is understood the pair had a long-running feud dating back to Year 8.
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[edit on 22-5-2008 by Gemwolf]

Yes thats the one. Could you please edit and take the school name out as I dont want anyone to know the school I go to?
The part about the feud since year 8 is true.
The fact is that the bully was over a head taller than the other boy, and twice as wide. Im guessing he thought the only way to go was a knife? I have heard that they have fought before but the bully easily overpowered him seeing the size difference.

And yes I am surprised that nothing was done about A) the bullying B) the rumors of a knife/gun.

If anyone has any questions about the incident or any of my school policies just ask, as Im pretty sure I am the person most capable on these boards to answer them.

This is fantastic. It's shame you get punished for doing things like that. If you bully people you have some kind of mental impairment. The kid was doing what could almost be classed a a public service.

I don't know if people in America will understand my point of view but people in England may be able to (I doubt it though).

Apprehending a criminal is assault? It's the same story in this messed up world.

Fun, I used to get bullied, im a VERY big guy and I never did anything about it knowing I could potentially cause great harm or even kill(if mad enough) those that I would get in conflict with. (Im a boxer, so its already illegal for me to fight back as is.) The first time I stood up to such abuse I got expelled, and I did it firmly, verbally and without threat. Schools these days I swear...

I was actually physically bullied even (not that it bothered me by me hurting, its just annoying) and no one did anything about them :-/ Since when is it "Words and Tones may break my bones but a fist will never hurt me"?

Though stabbing the kid was wrong.. High Five to the kid who stood up for himself, coulda handled it much better and in all honestly I woulda smacked him around if he was my friend (figuratively speaking) about his plan.

*singing song*

That's what you get when your a prick
do do do dood o do do dooo

*end song *

Seriously though bullys need to be stabbed sometimes especially after years of torment, it can drive a person insane for the rest of their life. Anybody disagree with that?

You can't stop kids from bringing weapons into schools - look at maximum security prisons. If there is a will, there is definitely a way. What you can stop is bullying that leads up to school shootings. The teachers are NOT doing their jobs!

I go to your school and Lindon deserved it, I'm the guys friend who did the stabbing and Lindon said before lunch something was gonna happen and my friend was being provoked. I was there and that gory stuff you said was bs he gave one stab and then he left. So in my opinion Lindon deserved it

Originally posted by dgtempe
Not all these kids come from bad families. Some are good families. I wonder if some kids souls are just leaving the body and being overtaken by evil forces?

Hmmm...that makes sense. It's not drugs (legal or otherewise), it's not being traumatized by thugs, it's not physical or psychological abuse at home, it's not genetics, we know for a fact it can be NONE of those things therefore it must be DEMONIC POSSESSION!!!

As a society we need to get busy and hire/train a lot more excorcists.

Seems to me that the bully could have used a huge "ass-whupping", but to use a knife to stab him seems OTT.

Im all for standing up to bullies- its the only way they can be stopped. They ought to be stood up to by all means, which in my opinion means also fighting back physically.

I was bullied for a while as a child by another kid, who was extremely poorly brought up and it seemed that words would not get through to him... A swift physical lesson from the Chuck Norris school of pain soon brought an end to the bullying.

But again, to stab someone is completely out of order. Fisticuffs at the most, I would say.

It appears that school children can be suspended for

T-shirts with slogans
Flag emblems
Dress code
Inappropriate statements
Not standing for the Pledge to the Flag
Etc....

But a kid can bully school mates for most likely all his school years. What kind of people do these bullies grow up to be? Not the most loving I suspect.

The above post made me laugh..

Im in a business school with still the average school act..

We are required to wear worklike clothes, meaning khakis and collared white shirts.

First day I came in I go suspended because I wore a shirt with a bandaged monkey that said "Sharp Pointy Things Makes Me Sad"

I got hit with weapon referances, referring to harm of another AND against the dress code... pshaw I say

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ok, so i'm pretty sure the stabber didnt stab "the bully" cos he got a footy kicked at his head,
i heard that its cos "the bully" was saying # about the other guys family
i dunno thats what i heard. all i say was "the bully" kick over some bins and then i was in the canteen.i didnt know what had happened really. dont you loooooove how bad our schools rep is? pretty sure were gonna have metal detectors soon. sheesh.

example #4,172 for why i'm not sending my kid to school. =)

not only so i think i could teach him better myself and keep him interested in learning, i don't need him getting suspended for ridiculous crap or getting picked on.

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What school was this? it sounds like the school I went to! lol