Is Texas UFO the same one filmed in Bakersfield CA?

I originally posted this in this thread,, but I wanted this theory to get its own exposure. I'm curious to know what you think.
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Many descriptions from witnesses of the Texas craft described flashing lights in no discernible pattern, that changed formation, forming arc shapes in the sky...

Let me just mention that the Bakersfield sighing has not been solved and remains a great mystery. The 13 min video went thru the ringer here at ATS and still came out clean on the other end..

We may not need video from Texas because I believe the craft in Bakersfield is what was seen in Stephensville...

First, a few witness descriptions from Texas. Remember these when you watch the Bakersfield video.

I went out on my back porch to see what was going on and saw the "UFO" hovering about half a mile above ground in the pasture next to our house. It had oval shaped bright white lights that danced about. Often making triangle shapes and then submerging into one bright light.

I heard the jets from a distance, looked like they were coming from the Ft. Worth area. When I looked at the jets and looked back to the hovering UFO, its lights blinked 4 times, went black and quickly shot off to the south towards Hico.

"The first time we saw it, the duration was three minutes; then it started slowing down and passed us, and the lights in the back reformed into an arc shape, and they would flash on and off with no particular pattern," he said. "Then those changed into two vertical lines. It was totally silent."

Some of the descriptions by witnesses talked about glowing orbs and seeing a wedge-shaped row of lights.

While federal officials insist there's a logical explanation, locals swear that it was larger, quieter, faster and lower to the ground than an airplane. They also said the object's lights changed configuration, unlike those of a plane. People in several towns who reported seeing it over several weeks have offered similar descriptions of the object.

Here's the Bakersfield video. 2 parts. Pay attention to how the girls describe this...as "wedged" shaped and HUGE...
Part 1
Part 2 The 2nd half of this one is mental!

Here's the thread.. With both witnesses who filmed it.

I'd like to get this video to one of the Texas witnesses to see if it matches what they saw.



NOTE: There some foul language in the above video, a testament to what these girls are witnessing. Not typical of seeing F-16's....



[edit on 24-1-2008 by PhotonEffect]

Since you started a new thread on it...

I actually mentioned that in another forum when the first video came out with the constable's testimony, he seems to describe exactly what those girls video taped.

But furthermore, could this instead be the light show he saw:
cbs11tv.com...
In this video the pilot witness agreed that this was indeed what he saw.






[edit on 24-1-2008 by Grey Basket]

If they didn't use such foul talk I bet CNN would like to air this!

Thanks for that video Photon I hadn't seen it yet, that also fits in perfectly with what witness testimony decribed during the Pheonix lights incident. I am kinda dissapointed actually as I now believe Stephville, Bakersfeild, and Pheonix all have the same top secret military craft sightings in common, admittedly I was hoping for a otherworldly explaination. With all the sightings I am sure we will hear something official about the craft in the coming years.

The size of the craft is truly impressive.

but didn't some of the Texas witnesses describe saucer-shaped craft, and perhaps even orbs of light?

for those Texans who described the now classic wing with lights (phoenix, bakersfield), I would agree there are huge similarities. Size, type of motion, lack of sound etc...

I wonder if the other famous wing/triangle sightings (Belgian triangle and such) have any relation to this? Those were normally desribed as having three lower tip lights, a bright center light.

It is either a UFO from beyond our accepted reality or a psy-op weapon from the US military. I guess I lean towards the alien option because i don't understand why the military would be so careless in flying/operating the thing(s).

The question too is, does the military have huge craft capable of appearing and disappearing, or speeding off as fast as F-16's?

I'm leaning towards no.

And why would they test this over civilian areas?

I made the same connection when I heard the story from the Police Constable. I think it is an important link to consider. Glad I wasn't alone.

reply to post by PhotonEffect


This is from the Pheonix incident

The look of the stars up inside between the arms was almost like a video projection. These stars were noticeably different from the look of the stars in the rest of the sky. At that moment I had the thought that I was looking at some kind of field that tricked my eyes into seeing around whatever was up inside between the two arms of the craft. I thought that there was more up above me than I was actually seeing

www.qtm.net...

Part of Blackburns description.

The best way I can put it is that it was similar to the alien in the movie Predator with Arnold Schwarz. The craft blended in with the background, so that it almost looked invisible. But I could still see the outline of something moving.

If you re-read the Pheonix case the similarities are immense, my guess is this is the case with Stephenville as well.

For me its just to much of a coincidence to have all of the sightings happen in the general area of many top secrets facilities, thats why I believe to be very likely something our military has cooked up.

reply to post by Ectoterrestrial


There seems to be a quite a few similarities between what witnesses Texas described and the Bakersfield craft. Listening to the girls describe it as they filmed really made me wonder if there's a connection.

How do we get this video to some of those Stephensville witnesses?

Thru MUFON you think?

There are 2 ATS guys who live there, perhaps they can check into it?

Originally posted by Grey Basket
There are 2 ATS guys who live there, perhaps they can check into it?

That'd be great if we can get in touch with them. I can reach out, but any idea who they are?

While I am acceptable of the idea that these are all military hardware, I do have some difficulty with the idea.

Why test over such a wide range of areas that contain civilian populations? I mean you could use Alaska and the deserts of Utah and Arizona. Shoot, even the country north of Big Bend in Texas would beat using east Texas.

And considering how much this resembles reports from a few years back in Belgium, why would you risk such an asset over a country where you have so little military control?

And before someone says that it's been tested enough to where the military is sure it won't crash and can't be chased down or hit with a missile, think about it a little. If it was that far along, it would be used in Iraq right now. Iran would get a "test" from it too. We've never had hardware we didn't use on an "enemy" as soon as we could. (Ask Gary Powers.)

No on the flip side, it would not be hard to imagine that if you were from "somewhere else" and checking out the native flora and fauna you would be in a populated area some of the time. And if you were in a populated area, then it's almost a given that you would be fairly close to a military base, as we have them thicker than fleas on a hairy dog here in the US.

I'm not saying this IS an ET craft, just that ruling it out because of the reasons so far stated don't hold enough water.

reply to post by NGC2736


I believe the reports out of Belguim were of a much smaller craft, that one really good picture of makes a definite shape. The craft spotted in the Southwest over the last 10 years are all said, and judging by Blackburns video are much larger. Maybe they want people to see it for some reason.

Steve Allen, the 50 year old pilot who witnessed the Stephenville craft described it as being a mile long and a half mile wide.

He also described it as "an arch shape converted in a vertical shape, and then it split and made two of them, and then these turned into just fire and it was gone."
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If you've seen the Bakersfield video (links in op), then you may have noticed that object they filmed exhibited the same 'formation changes' and in the sequence as described by Mr. Allen.

Here are screen shots from the Bakersfield craft:

The 'arch shape' first seen in the video(2 imgs)




Then 'converted into a vertical shape, then split in two'- (notice the 4 lights above the 2 lights forming a vertical shape.)



In the Bakersfield video the final shape was that of a triangle with 3 strobes, as it sped off into the night..




I would really like to get this video into the hands of any of these witnesses. Any ideas on how?

[edit on 28-1-2008 by PhotonEffect]

Here's a video of an interview of a woman who filmed the object in Texas. It's the first clip from the series. This by far is the best video of the Stephenville craft that I've seen.

I'm particularly interested in the description of the object she gives; as being triangular.

I don't recall seeing that video before, but that looks a lot more like an earthly craft than a huge UFO to me.

There are too many different descriptions of the craft from the witnesses there.

Where is night vision when you need it? Its so hard to tell what the Bakersfield craft is. Coincidently I live in Bakersfield, CA...never seen anything like it

reply to post by Grey Basket


True. Many different people are describing the craft in many different ways.

Which is why I'd like to get a witness from the Texas incident to watch the Bakersfield vid to see if there are any similarities there.

reply to post by Jeff Riff


Hey Jeff,

Actually the still images above of the Bakersfield craft are in night vision.

Here's what it looks like with out it.