FEMA concentration /detainment camps

Welcome to the project on FEMA concentration/detainment camps. Through the help of my fellow scholars, Lexion and racerzeke, I hope to provide detailed information into the existence of these "camps". I will include photos and documents that provide proof that they exist. The reason for this project is to provide ATS'ers with the knowledge they need to let people know the possibilities of these "camps". The other side of the argument will also be provided as I know there are many sceptics out there when it comes to this subject. I myself do not know why these "camps" were actually started and for what future use they hold. Through this project I hope to provide a solid answer for myself and others to that very question.

Included here will be three images from google earth of the supposed FEMA detention facility in Buffalo, NY. This is the closest facility to where I live. There is definitely a railyard just south of the pinpointed location. The site looks like a type of mine operation but there is also indeed fence around the area and a convenient waterway as part of the site.

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Image #2




[edit on 12/24/2007 by palehorse23]

Image #3 railyard south of facility-- images courtesy of google earth: buffalo FEMA detention facility




[edit on 12/24/2007 by palehorse23]

Although not FEMA camps concentration camps in the USA began to rise after the attack on Pearl Harbor for the use of imprisoning people who have the same race as the enemies.

Although not as harsh as the concentration camps in Nazi Germany the US camps were holding people under the assumption that they were spies.


Over 100,000 japanese were held captive, along with thousands of Germans and Italians.

hese interment camp are scatted throughout the United States, many are now 'historical sites', and what is stopping them from becoming what they once were?

On December 21, 2006 President Bush signed H.R. 1492 into law guaranteeing $38,000,000 in federal money to restore the Gila River relocation center along with nine other former Japanese internment camps. "H.R. 1492".
www.govtrack.us...


This is a short introduction to the introduction of US concentration camps into the United States, I hope to go more in depth in the near future-this is just a tidbit of information to get you started . Now you read about all of these FEMA camps popping up, why? When the WW2 camps started popping up Germans were being held even though the United States had not yet declared war on Germany yet, may these FEMA camps be a sing of something to come?

Palehorse,

Thank you for this opportunity.
I'm honored.

I will be visiting areas in Central
Louisiana a taking pictures of
anything that fits the given des-
cription.

I'll begin after Jan. 1, if that's Ok ?

Regards,
Lex

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Sounds great Lex. I think this project will have to be updated to a level 3 as I believe we need a bit more time to put everything together. So far, from a lot of the pictures that are currently circulating out there, there is a connection with waterways and railways. It seems that the camps need these methods to transport. The question remains of what is being transported and what will be transported in and out of these facilities.
Here is some external content explaining why these camps are around and how they will be filled with US citizens:

We know that the admitted procedure in case of a chemical, biological, or radiological attack is to declare a national state of emergency and implement martial law, which gives dictatorial power to the president. Let us not forget Executive Order 11000 which provides for the seizure of all American people for work forces under Federal supervision, (splitting up families where necessary.) This Executive Order was signed by JFK forty years ago. Could this order, among others have caused him to state ten days before he was assassinated: �The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American�s freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight�? Well, these work forces are still standard operating procedure if martial law is declared, and since another terrorist attack has been guaranteed by our own intelligence agencies, martial law is therefore inevitable as well. Also take into account that there are close to fifty �relocation� camps presently in place with more on the way, and we have �textbook tyranny� (as Alex says.) It is all an elaborate trap, constructed by the globalists, or �a plot to destroy the American�s freedom.� So the mousetrap is in place, with the �government cheese� bait! There are still people out there who don�t see the trap; therefore I must mention that history is the story of the tyrant�s lust for power versus the citizen�s rights.

www.prisonplanet.com...

Here is also a link of photos of military and police exercises practicing tactics of martial law in Oakland.
martial law exercise

Here are two more images of the Albany detention facility. They all seem to have a common theme so far. Close to railways/waterways and near some type of work facility.Check out the Navy boat in picture 2 which is just north of the facility.





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Here is a link to a thread on this very site. An account of a visit to a FEMA camp for Katrina victims. Lots of pics included. Check it out. Kind of spooky.

Katrina FEMA camp

Here is another link that presents the opposite side of the conspiracy. This guy alleges to have gone to a few "proposed" FEMA camps. The only thing is that he doesn't have any pics posted. Makes me wonder

No FEMA camps

[edit on 12/30/2007 by palehorse23]

Well, another thing I have just discovered that surprised me. I actually found a religious site that indicates the existence of FEMA camps as they claim to have had "encounters" with many FEMA officials about their church being seized and used as a base for Martial Law. I am by no means a religious person, but when I see that devout Christians believe in the existence of these camps, I really start to think twice.

I received a report from Pensacola, Florida about one Pastor and his visitation by several FEMA officials. They told him, "Pastor, we've decided that
UNDER MARTIAL LAW we are going to SEIZE YOUR CHURCH and use it for our base of operations here."

Chrisitans take on FEMA camps

Check this out and let me know your thoughts.

Okay, I am just returning from a trip to Albany to check out this "so called" FEMA camp. Some interesting findings, but I must say, Very difficult to get close enough to take good photos so I will give my best account in words. As you can see from the google earth photos, it looks very much like a railyard that is part of a mining company. This I did see. It looked just like the google photos. But, and I stress the but, there was also fencing around the entire area. Also, there were construction vehicles with some skeletons of buildings going up. What these will be I cannot tell you. For all I know they could just be new facilities for the mining operation. The only other thing that struck me was the lack of activity there seemed to be as far as workers (besides the construction). Maybe that was because of the holidays. Not sure, but I would think there would be a lot of movement around a railyard and mining operation. I did not see anything persay, on the outside that is, that would make me believe that this was a detainment facility. Unless it would be used as a work camp. that is all I could come up with. I am taking a trip to the Buffalo site early next week and hopefully I can get some sort of photo to share. I also got a bit nervous being around Albany. Ya never know who is "watching" around that city.

Ok, here are two pics of the same area that is claimed to be a camp called El Reno. One photo is old and the other is a recent google earth photo. Compare the two. there has obviously been some renovations but to me, nothing that looks suspicious. As a matter of fact, this is so close to a main road, it doesn't make since to me.






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Here are some interesting photos from Lexion who took a trip to another camp in Claiborne, Louisiana. Lexion will give an impression of what he saw.







Thanks Lex. Great photos!!

Lex, my research partner, has unfortunately been banned, but still believes in the fight of finding the truth. He has daringly and graciously taken another trip this weekend to get additional photos of a supposed camp in Louisiana. Camp Livingston. He had a bit of an adventure while there. As he was taking his last photo from the top of his vehicle, his wife spotted a car approaching them at a high speed so she floored it. He at the time hit an extra button on the camera but still got the shot. Waiting on the rest of pics and going to post more as I wrap up our research by midweek. So far, from what we have seen, doesn't really seem to be much ado about these locations.

Well, I received final pics from the banned Lexion's trip to a last "supposed camp" in Louisiana. Some cool pics.

Last pics is here. sign that Lex saw when a car was coming towards him at high speed. Hence, the blurry image.





[edit on 1/16/2008 by palehorse23]

This is my final analysis of the research gathered by myself and banned ATS member and friend Lexion. I want to start out by sending out very sincere gratitude to Lexion, who although banned, decided to progress with the search for truth and continue gathering information on the subject of the existence of FEMA camps within the United States.
The two of us had different views on this subject when we began the project. Lex was the skeptic. I, on the other hand, believed these "camps" to be true and in functioning existence. Throughout the gathering of information, I have come to believe that these so called "camps" do need to be looked at with a certain degree of skepticism.
After reading a hurricane Katrina victim's experience at a FEMA camp, I am convinced that they do exist. The question still lies in what the actual intentions of them are. According to the victim's account, the camps were very well structured and observed. People coming to visit those who were at the camps were not allowed to bring most items they had inside the camps.. Many were told to leave all of their supplies (food, books, blankets, etc) at their cars as they were not items approved by FEMA. This I found particularly disturbing. Family members and friends could not bring food and clothing into the victims bunkhouses due to FEMA regulations? That does not seem right. Adds to the effect of a concentration camp in my opinion. FEMA wanted total control of everything going into and out of the camps. On the opposite side of things, the victims were allowed to leave the camps whenever they wished. The only repercussion was that they could not return. EVER! Once you leave, you cannot return. I guess it is a good thing that you could leave in the first place. The only suspicious thing that the victim recounted was the fact that there seemed to be an awful lot of uniformed military personnel and even local law enforcement. they suggested that this made them fear what may happen. the idea of constantly being watched as if I was a criminal when I just survived a natural disaster would make me uncomfortable as well. At the end of reading this account I deduced the following. In this instance, these "camps" do exist for the intended purpose that FEMA claims. On the other side of the coin, one has to be able to believe that areas like these do exist and that they are capable of handling mass amounts of people, say if martial law is declared and people do get rounded up.
After carefully looking at the photos gathered by Lex and taking a trip to two supposed locations of camps within New York, I have become a bit skeptical myself. Starting with the NY locations. In my humble opinion, there was nothing out of the ordinary at these sites. The only consistency with other claimed "camps" is that they are near water and a railway system. Both facilities I visited appeared to be a normal mining operation. Now if the government plans on rounding people up and making them work their behinds off mining different ores, then this is their place. there were no bunkhouses, no large buildings to hold people, or even anything remotely resembling a "concentration camp" setting. As a matter of fact, they were so close to a major roadway, that nothing could be done out of the site of thousands traveling by each day.
Moving to the photos provided by Lexion, I have to make almost the entirely same assessment. It appeared to me by his photos, that these locations are very overgrown and under used. Lex stated that he noticed a lot of hunters in the area of the first location he went to. Which leads me to believe that nothing out of the ordinary was happening at that location. The fact that anyone could get onto the land and hunt suggests that there is nothing to hide. The second facility that he traveled to was a bit more interesting as you can notice by the photo that it was a US Marshall training facility. The fact that he had a vehicle coming towards him at a high rate of speed is also interesting. This suggests that the facility may have a bit more to hide than we know. But, even still, from the other photos attached, we see nothing but overgrown vines and weeds with no real intact structures present. To me personally, this would be a hell of a place to play some paintball and nothing more. It seems to have been a training facility at one point, but unless they plan on renovating, this facility is out the window for holding people under martial law.
In conclusion, I have come to regard these camps with a high degree of skepticism. In fact, most of the argument of declaring martial law and rounding people up has to be looked at with skepticism. If the government plans on initiating this action, they would have to bring home many many troops and recruit many police organizations. Both of which I do not see happening anytime soon. I do believe however that the FEMA camps do exist. Through some investigation and research, I have concluded that so far, they have been used for what FEMA claims. If in fact they are going to declare martial law and round people up and turn them into concentration camps, we as the public will never know the truth. It makes more since in my opinion that if the government wants to harbour its citizens somewhere, they would just use military bases that already have a type of housing quarters and are very protected against the outside public rather than constructing new camps and spending millions of dollars when they already have the means.