Ron Paul and his Neo-Nazi Supporters

Yes I do know EXACTLY what you meant... That is my point... Semantics is the scape goat for Freudian slips....

The fact is I have heard these comments in regards to Mr. Paul..From more than one. Several are on ATS as well....

1. A religious experience
2. His rule
3. Completely changed me
4. Epiphany

Those are traits desirable in a Holy man, not so much in a politician...

I have no desire to be ruled, changed or experience any religious experience, Paul or not...

So you can claim semantics if it makes it easier... Free country after all...

I call it...

Suspicious

Semper

reply to post by marg6043


Marge, ask yourself who would do more harm if given the chance, corporate america with all its faults, or rabid bigots with an agenda of hatred? What kind of damage did the first wave of Nazi's do? Especially after they gained access to corporate Germany?

The kind of damage they could do with that kind of access to power brokers of any sort in the United States truely beggars the imagination.

reply to post by seagull


Only the naive will think that any Nazi party of any kind have enough supporters to take over any government in this nation with the powers of corporate corruption in place right now.

I will be more worry with the new wave of extremist Christian fundamentalist infiltrating our government than any Nazi or white supremacy group, beware because money in our nation does the talking and the BS does the walking.

People needs some lesson of what goes on behind the scene in our corrupted corporate manipulated political system.

Even if Ron Paul gets to win the elections the power is not for him to do as he wishes.

reply to post by marg6043


I'm sure that's what the Jewish people in Germany and elsewhere were telling themselves when a little known party started making inroads into power in Post world war one Germany. "Oh this will never amount to anything."...heck some Jews even supported National Socialism at first.

Oops. Millions of deaths later, they're telling themselves "never again". Odds are, of course, that that won't happen here. I know that. But if we take our eyes off them and others like them, they'll be back.

Ron Paul has done enough, in my eyes, to warrant the title of bigot. That article on Daily Kos is sufficient to warrant much, much closer scrutiny. I was none too sure about his principles to begin with. Now? I'd sooner Hillary win, quite frankly.


[edit on 23-12-2007 by seagull]

Areal51 is the OP of another thread about Ron Paul and racism in the U.S. Poltics forum. He provides a link to an article in "The Ron Paul Political Report," written in 1992, shortly after the "Rodney King riots" in Los Angeles. The article, which is long, is clearly racist throughout. I understand Paul has distanced himself from the article, claiming a staffer wrote it. But it was published in his own newsletter, and I wonder how Paul could have had the Report sent out without even looking at it.

Taking the donation in and of itself is a small thing. Taking the donation, combined with the article and other statements attributed to Paul, is cause for serious concern. I would not want someone with such views to hold the highest office in the country.

The Republican Party is doing everything it can to ignore Ron Paul's candidacy. They think he is a minor gnat in the ointment. If RP gains too much more support, they'll squash him like a bug.

As well they should. Ron Paul has no business registering as a Republican for this election. The Republican tent is not all that encompassing. They do not accept donations from white supremacists. Not one other candidate would accept $500 from Dave Black; they would return it in a heartbeat.

And it has nothing to do with accepting people with all points of view. It's really a matter of saying "Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but I do not share yours, Mr. Black. Keep your money."

DBates: THis is a strawman argument and you have bought it hook, line and sinker. Don't you think Neo-Nazis have supported other politicians before? Or do you think that they simply didn't vote?
Many of these white supremacists, such as the KKK, call themselves Christian. So would you leave the Christian church because there are white supremacists supporting it?

I have seen Mr. Paul on TV talking about his neo-Nazi supporters. He says he is very much against their agenda. He does keep the contributions, since they are fellow Americans, like it or not.

Have you seen ANY of the candidates ever return campaign contributions because they don't agree with the politics of the groups that support them? I'd love to see any candidate return their corporate contributions to the corporations, no matter how evil corporations become.

Ron Paul has a very clear platform. He wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, the IRS and the CIA. He is a Libertarian and fully supports states' rights - he also believes in smaller govt with the states deciding most things for themselves. This is the exact same platform Ronald Reagan ran on in 1980. This is clearly a Republican agenda, has been for a very long time. There were alot of people who agreed with that idea and that's why he was elected.

Do some more research on Ron Paul. He is anything but a white supremacist.

I'm sure that they vote, but I'm just suspiscious of who they rally around. True, Hitler celebrating Christmas doesn't mean I can't but if Hitler started giving me a bunch of gifts I'd wonder what I was doing that lined up with his agenda. Do you see what I mean?

reply to post by dbates


I am not Ron Paul supporter but I will have to say that this smells like propaganda and dirty politics to me.

This type of stories are played over and over in any political elections all the time.

I doubt that Ron Paul or any other candidate is a Hitler in the making wanna be.

Like I said I will be more worry of the fundamentalist under the cover political candidates out there with their own Christian hidden agendas of peace to the world and theocracy rule to the nation.

Ron Paul is not a bigot; never has been. The New York Times issued an apology for making errors in their Ron Paul article about neo-Nazis and him.
Read about it here:

www.abovepolitics.com...

The NYTimes had to retract it because of some untrue statements about Paul.