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I am really mixed about this. People learn by example. Dark skin people were brought to this country by means of hate. Hate for the unknown. The only thing that is not the same between me and my black brothers, is the color. Period, i can be as brutle, or as nice. I do think that "blacks" comite crimes out of hate, some do, all rules are broken. There are people that still burn crosses.That blows me away I guess i convenced myself, most "blacks" dont comite crimes out of hate.
Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Gazrok, its ok for you to disagree, im not trying to push my feelings on anyone, just sharing my thoughts.
So you are telling me that there are just as many blacks locked up for hate crimes. Just dont know if thats true. I bet its more whites , whites hates gays, and they hate gays more than black. To be honest, most of the hate crimes i can think of are on gays. Most "blacks are locked up for, dealing, stealing,fleeing
I agree that hate crimes need to be treated more seriously.
And they were cheap labor... I think i was try to point the way the whites are savages, and turned "blacks" to savages. Maybe i need to put more thought sometimes, somethings just get me going and i ramble. so sorry bout that.
whites hates gays, and they hate gays more than black. To be honest, most of the hate crimes i can think of are on gays. Most "blacks are locked up for, dealing, stealing,fleeing
Table 2. - Number of Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Offenders by Bias Motivation, 1995 Bias Motivation Incidents Offenses Victims Known Offenders
Race 4,831 6,170 6,438 5,751
Anti-White 1,226 1,511 1,554 2,032
Anti-Black 2,988 3,805 3,945 3,099
Anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native 41 59 59 38
Anti-Asian/Pacific Islander 355 484 496 380
Anti-Multi-Racial Group 221 311 384 202
Ethnicity/National Origin 814 1,022 1,044 958
Anti-Hispanic 516 680 698 685
Anti-Other Ethnicity/ National Origin 298 342 346 273
Religion 1,277 1,414 1,617 437
Anti-Jewish 1,058 1,145 1,236 350
Anti-Catholic 31 35 53 8
Anti-Protestant 36 47 65 12
Anti-Islamic 29 39 41 26
Anti-Other Religious Group 102 122 196 36
Anti-Multi-Religious Group 20 25 25 4
Anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc. 1 1 1 1
Sexual Orientation 1,019 1,266 1,347 1,273
Anti-Male Homosexual 735 915 937 1,031
Anti-Female Homosexual 146 189 191 131
Anti-Homosexual 103 125 182 80
Anti-Heterosexual 17 19 19 13
Anti-Bisexual 18 18 18 18
Multiple Bias 6 23 23 14
Total 7,947 9,895 10,469 8,433
www.fbi.gov...
Law enforcement agencies reported the number of known offenders for 62 percent of hate crimes coming to their attention in 1995. Among the 8,433 known offenders reported to be associated with hate crime incidents, 59 percent were white, and 27 percent were black. The remaining offenders were of other or multi-racial groups.
Most "blacks are locked up for, dealing, stealing,fleeing
Originally posted by Gazrok
I am really mixed about this. People learn by example. Dark skin people were brought to this country by means of hate. Hate for the unknown. The only thing that is not the same between me and my black brothers, is the color. Period, i can be as brutle, or as nice. I do think that "blacks" comite crimes out of hate, some do, all rules are broken. There are people that still burn crosses.That blows me away I guess i convenced myself, most "blacks" dont comite crimes out of hate.
I'd have to disagree with this reasoning though... Blacks were brought to America for economic reasons (i.e. cheap labor) not hate. Likewise, there are just as many blacks that commit crimes from hate, as whites, hispanics, etc....perhaps even more, if prison statistics are taken into consideration....
I can see the reasoning for defining certain cases as "hate" crimes. As a society, we need to treat crimes committed from this motivation, more seriously, in order to reinforce that it will not be tolerated.
Originally posted by Gazrok
I didn't see anything yet about this here, but all day yesterday, there was a young black boy that had his head put in a noose by a white boy as a bet.
He wrote an open letter to the president, and is trying to push legislation that will make the parents, and even friends of the perpetrator of hate crimes responsible....arguing that they "shaped the criminal's views"...
The odd thing is...this was treated as a "good idea" in the press!!! Now, I feel for the kid, but this would set a VERY dangerous witchhunt scenario in place...
Especially since the criminal is 19 years old (i.e. an adult), responsible for his own behavior no matter how you slice it. Thing about it too, is that regardless of whether someone is guilty of hate...that, in itself, is not a crime... At the point when it crosses the line, it is THEN upon the individual that committed the crime..imho...
Anyways, here's a link to a story about it...as it was on local news here....
www.baynews9.com...