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WTC7 Security Official Details Explosions Inside Building

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posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 04:06 PM
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Those explosions went off before any of the towers felt.
Very interesting interview.

www.prisonplanet.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 05:40 PM
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Apparently it will blow this whole thing wide open. Yes he is not coming forward with his identity, but he will during the release of the new Loose Change Video.

He claimed corpses in building 7 as well? Apparently he was an executive, he has been on mainstream media already but not about this and he is fearing for his life.

Alex Jones tried to tell him to come forward it will make him safer actually, it is this hiding in the shadow that makes him a target.

This could be big.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 05:44 PM
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Im POSITIVE all this guy is talking about is the wtc collaspe and
various other crashes and bangs ..All the guy wants is his 15 minutes .
YEA , he sounded REALLY relyable ...


[edit on 19-6-2007 by gen.disaray]



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 05:54 PM
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I agree with Gen.Disaray, i mean an anonymous figure comes out with some wild speculation, that has not been collaborated anywhere..
Until he comes out it pays to remain suspicious of his intentions.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 06:02 PM
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Mainstream media, like it or not, is after rating. Leading up to the 2008 elections something like this would be huge. They should have him, the 9/11 terrorists that are still alive, the guy who controlled the holograms, the guy who planted the thermite, John Lear and Elvis all meet up in Times Square for a photo op.

Seriously, if there was something to leak, do we not think it would have leaked by now? If he comes out, and something was to happen to him (heart attack, car accident, random mugging) then we would know that there is a conspiracy, but since there is no threat of that he must remain hidden and a mystery. Disinfo at its best.

Also, he was a Security Official executive in WTC 7? I would think the only people like that in the building were CIA and since they were in on it, they wouldn't come forward. So where does that leave us?



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 06:49 PM
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Well, it leaves us concluding that your ad hoc assumption that this official was CIA is wrong.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 07:06 PM
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I am quite sure the loose change guys did their homework on this one we shall see...



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by piacenza
I am quite sure the loose change guys did their homework on this one we shall see...

If they have it would be a first



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by gen.disaray
YEA , he sounded REALLY relyable ...



What about him seems unreliable to you? I thought he sounded pretty normal.


Originally posted by Fowl Play
i mean an anonymous figure comes out with some wild speculation, that has not been collaborated anywhere..


How else would it happen? I mean, if there IS someone who decides to come out with information, it's not going to be collaborated until AFTER he reveals his story. Wild speculation? Sounded to me like he was just relaying what he saw. Not speculating.


Originally posted by Fowl Play
Until he comes out it pays to remain suspicious of his intentions.


I agree. We should remain skeptical. However, I think it's just as big a mistake to discount it out of hand.



Originally posted by esdad71
Seriously, if there was something to leak, do we not think it would have leaked by now?


What is a reasonable timeframe for a leak to appear?



but since there is no threat of that he must remain hidden and a mystery. Disinfo at its best.


How do you know there is no threat of danger to him? How could you possibly know that?



I would think the only people like that in the building were CIA and since they were in on it, they wouldn't come forward. So where does that leave us?


Perhaps with a very corrupt CIA?



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 09:36 PM
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Simple... you have one of the biggest stories to tell that will blow the cover off of the biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind...

You:

A. Keep it to yourself, knowing that if you are a whistleblower...you risk not only your life but the lives of loved ones.

B. Decide you are going to be that whistleblower and find a reputable media person. Similar to William Mark Felt, Sr., aka James Rothwell 'deepthroat" and be sure you and y our family are protected.

or

C. Tell a couple College wanna-be's that made three videos filled with false claims and have them put it on their latests and greatest try.

Common sence....This is just Avery trying to hype the release of his video.

[edit on 19-6-2007 by CaptainObvious]



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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Here is the audio of the interview.

www.prisonplanet.com...


Okay, the guy had high clearance and considering some of the things he is talking about it is very chilling to say the least and I can fully understand why he delayed the story. There is every reason to believe him and when he reveals his identity it will become even more understandable why he took the course of action he took.

Listen to the part about the corpses. None of us have ever been told anything about corpses in Building 7. The way he is retelling this it doesn't sound made up or contrived. Another surprising thing is the explosions in 7 well in advance of its own demise, but even more shocking well in advance of the Towers Collapses!

This is a chilling account of something very sinister.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 10:13 PM
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It's really an unfair debate until the details are posted. For now they can milk the headline.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 10:22 PM
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snoopy

That is a valid point. But he is offering something that goes well beyond what anyone to date has mentioned, namely corpses in Building 7 and the evacuation etc. So it is worth pondering just for that fact alone. I think with 7 it is some of the things that have come to light in recent years coupled with this that make it more of a cumilative case and a circumstantial one.

The part where he talks about the firefighters and what they told him, also brings up the recent Michael Moore revelations, where he has gone on the record now stating that firefighters have told him privately about certain things that were going on that day that are very suspicious.

I think time will tell, but considering the revelations and the fact he hasn't come totally forward, it could be dangerous for the individual as I would imagine someone would want him to 'shut up' about it.

*IF* it pans out, then this is huge.

[edit on 19-6-2007 by talisman]



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 10:25 PM
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The Whistleblower is Barry Jennings

And he HAS spoken before......here is some information:



Most of Building 7 of the World Trade Center was evacuated around the time the South Tower was hit (see (9:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001). However, firefighters find three individuals who have become trapped inside it. Among them are Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Mike Hess, New York’s chief lawyer who is also a longtime friend of Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. The two had gone up to the 23rd floor headquarters of the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management some time before 10 a.m., but found it empty. (It was evacuated at 9:30 a.m.; see 9:30 a.m. September 11, 2001.) They headed downstairs but became trapped around the sixth floor by smoke and debris that filled the staircase as a result of the North Tower collapsing at 10:28 a.m. After breaking a window and calling for help, they were spotted by firefighters outside. When the firefighters go in, they also find a security officer for one of the businesses based in the building, who is trapped on the 7th floor by the smoke in the stairway. Why this guard did not evacuate earlier, along with the rest of WTC 7, is unknown. All three men are escorted out of the building.


[source][New York Times, 11/21/1997; Associated Press, 9/11/2001; Giuliani, 2002, pp. 20-21 and 244; Penn State Public Broadcasting, 3/1/2002; National Institute of Standards and Technology, 6/2004, pp. L-18 ; National Institute of Standards and Technology, 9/2005, pp. 109-110 ] [/source]
www.cooperativeresearch.org...

Dylan was on the radio tonight and was a little upset when someone called the line and blew the cover on this whistleblower. Dylan even said... "I dare you to say that to Barry's face". So it's pretty much confirmed.

The problem is... He now says he heard explosions BEFORE the towers collapsed. Another flip flopper? Leave it to Loose Change to again fill their videos with more lies.

Thanks Dylan.

NIST NCSTAR 1-8 Page 109
At approximately 9:44 a.m., after the report of a third aircraft heading into the city and news that the Pentagon had been attacked, a Deputy OEM Commissioner ordered the complete evacuation of WTC 7. (Sheirer 2004) This order included the evacuation of the OEM operations center on the 23rd floor.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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CaptainObvious

To the contrary, flip flopping is common in criminal cases especially with eyewitnesses who are involved with something 'over their heads'. The argument from silence, namely that he didn't mention it before so now it isn't true if he mentions it, is logically false.

He is pretty consistent he is just now coming forward with things that should cause even people who are skeptical to at least think about what he is talking about.
that are the corpses and other mysterious things that just doesn't sound completely made up. He would be absolutely *NUTS* to lie about this as either way his life could be in danger.

Something is up with this, the question is what exactly?

[edit on 19-6-2007 by talisman]



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 10:49 PM
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Okay we pretty well know it was Barry Jennings who indeed was in the buidlling. His testimony regarding 'explosions' is the same as Craig Bartmer, the Emergency Response guy who did an interview last year.

So, we know Barry was in the building. It is what he is talking about now that is controversial but it isn't a flip flop. In fact just because he didn't mention this previous, means nothing considering the events and what we are dealing with.

He is one of the few people who saw inside during the events in question. If what he is saying is true, then there were explosions pre-collapse of the Towers and that someone is hiding this information from the public.

The reaction he speaks of from the firefighters is indeed interesting, the fact that they wanted him to look away from the corpses, its as if the cover for deaths at 7 were going to be covered up from the beginning.

This is very strange stuff guys.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 11:16 PM
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Talisman....

The WTC7 lobby was being used as a triage! That explains the so called corpses in the lobby!! Look at the time line. You will see his story DID in fact change.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 11:39 PM
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CaptainObvious


Like I said, in cases where things are over the heads of many eyewitnesses in high profiled court cases it isn't unknown for the eyewitness to come back later with the *TRUE* events as opposed to what was sold earlier.

What I am considering in this, is what he said previous as much as what he is saying now. Because what he is saying now appears to be his breaking with what people wanted him to say previous.

Recall there has been somewhat of a gag order on certain persons.

It would be at this point premature to reject his testimony, since he is well aware of what was said previous and doesn't appear at all to be a stupid person.

In fact and this will sound strange at first but think this one out.

The very fact that he has come out with something that somewhat contradicts something earlier is a very sure sign he is probably telling the truth.

You might ask----"how so?"

Because, if anything he could have *MADE* up any other story and made it go along with his former story and still have had a *MAJOR STORY*.

He could have said, "i saw demolition crews" etc and kept his old timel ine by just reading up on it on the net.

But what he does that is significant, is that he breaks with it. He is saying in effect----"I can't keep quiet about this any longer, I need to talk".

Many people do stuff like this. It is actually common with people who try and come clean with something years later. Even the OFFICIAL STORY has 'flip flops' from Bin Laden himself and other key figures. Many skeptics accept those. So why not this? Is it only because what he says is troubling?

Considering all the things that have come to light, I think it stands to reason that he might be telling the truth.


All I am saying at this point is think about it and give it some time. Don't reject it outright, even if there are some earlier discrepancies which are common in many people.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 11:49 PM
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Talisman....

He has been giving interviews for some time.... here is another one from March 1st 2002:

is124.ce.psu.edu...


REPORTER:
"Barry Jennings, you were on the 8th floor. You work for the City Housing Department. Explain to me the moment of impact."

BARRY JENNINGS:
"Well, me and Mr. Hess, the corporation counsel were on the 23rd floor. I told him, ‘We gotta get out of here.’ We started walking down the stairs. We made it to the 8th floor. Big explosion. Blew us back into the 8th floor, and I turned to Hess. I said, ‘this is it; we’re dead. We’re not gonna make it out of here.’ I took a fire extinguisher and I bust the window out. That’s when this gentleman here heard my cries for help. This gentleman right here. And he kept saying, ‘Stand by. Somebody’s coming to get you.’ They couldn’t get to us for an hour because they couldn’t find us."


I am not saying he is lying about what happened...Im saying he is lying about the timing.

It does not add up to me.



posted on Jun, 19 2007 @ 11:58 PM
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CaptainObvious

Right, or he is simply coming clean with it now. Lets suppose what he is saying is the truth regarding the time line now, what would you suggest he does? Remain silent? Not tell anyone? People often say with 9/11 there isn't enough people coming forward to break the official story, Conspiracy's don't work cause there is to many people silent etc.

Well here is a guy who might have no choice?


We don't fully know. He has no real reason to lie, it certainly will not earn him brownie points. Again time will tell, but I would rather have a person tell the Truth later then never. Give it some time and lets see what comes about.



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