Living the Lie on a secret base

Im not going to go into great details here as this is a public site. I was forced to sign a security oath that forbids me from discussing the base in details and its functions. And when I say forced, I literally was told "sign this or you dont leave this facility ever"

I will say that generally there are facilities around this nation that have stated publicly what the base does exactly. This from my experience is a complete lie. I have personally witnessed base commanders bring reporters onto base and set up false shows as to say "see this is what we do here"

What was very shocking to me is that some of the hidden secret activities were quite dangerous to the local public. And these activities endangered far more than just a few local farmers. Sometimes events happened that did some damage to the local community and the general public wasnt told.

If you live near any type of military or DoD installation, I urge you to do some research or just use your eyes. If you see reports of higher than normal cancer rates, there's a clue. If you notice that the tree line suddenly stops when approaching a facility, again another clue. These dead zones are clear to anyone that looks but for some reason most dont seem to have their eyes open.

My sister once asked me how if UFO's or 9-11 were real could the govt possibly keep it a secret. Well I lived it, FEAR was the reason. Hell, Im fearful now that the NSA is flagging this posting. Although, Im sure Im aleady on a watch list anyway as Ive voiced my opinions many times over the years. (my wife is deathly afraid Ive made the infamous FEMA list and would be imprisoned immediately upon martial law being declared).

Fear keeps people from talking. And in a society that loves freedom its a real shame that fear will keep dirty secrets from coming out

I would also like to state that the fear is constantly reinforced by the govt.

Ill give a few examples...

I would say that on at least 3 occasions I was approached by women in various social outings. They were basically trying to get "close" to me if you catch my drift. Im not talking like James Bond stuff, ie get into my hotel room and snapshot some documents or anything lol. But just really silly obvious attempts to see if I could be compromised.

Sometimes I got the impression that these obvious attempts were done just as a show of force to let me know theyre always watching.

On other occasions there were attempts to probe me for weaknesses that could possibly be exploited. The govt would want to know if you have a gambling problem or have drug or alcohol dependency, or money problems, etc. I had been given chances to join in card games, betting pools, sexual encounters with prositiution rings, and some really oddball activities.

Once I was approached by some (what looked like) high school or young college kids about me getting involved in some counterfeit ID ring operation.

It is possible that some of these attempts to compromise me were in fact real operatives. Others were certainly just the govt testing me. In fact I recall once while waiting for a bump with my clearance status one of the above attempts happening.

It really made me afraid to say anything. I was always afraid any slip of the tongue would net me a visit to Ft. Leavenworth. When these guys would listen in on my phone calls they wouldnt even try and hide it. A few times I distinctly heard a click and another time I could somehow hear an entirely other phone conversation going on between other people.

I dont think full disclosure will ever happen in my lifetime honestly. Not unless the cloak of fear is ever lifted. Its real, its threatening, and it keeps people quiet

Buddy I do live near a military base, as does my sister in another town. Iam very fearful for both of us. There has been an increase in Military and police presence here in recent weeks,and though we are in Canada some of these troops are US. We have a private city police force but the province official police are moving in.And so much for the oath of secrecy.Some of these soldiers are spilling the beans after a few beers at the local bars. not good. Not sure how accurate the info is either. However, they claim that most operations out of the White House have been moved to Cheyenne mountain in preparation for the attack of the cities where the Live Earth concerts are taking place. This could all be a massive load of BS, thats why I didn't start a thread about it.But I cannot deny the increased presence here as we live near the Canadian version of Cheyenne mountain. Can anyone confirm more activity in that area or where the concerts are to be held?For anyone planning to attend, better safe than sorry. Stay away.

Yep, I agree. I served on active duty in the Army, and also in the Air Force as a PJ (pararescue). I've deployed to numerous middle eastern countries, served 2 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan. I've never seen an "underground base", "area 51", "Iron Mountain", etc...etc, though it wouldn't surprise me if any of it was true. I also spent time as a DOD defense contractor, so I can understand what your talking about when you say "debt, gambling, etc" as far as a security clearance is issued/maintained. The government keeps a tight grip (and rightfully so, with critical mission security or the like...but other things, a bit too far) on most everything, and black op procedures is just one of them. I also wonder if I might come up on FEMA's list from time to time, but I've done nothing wrong and never have. I would never compromise this nation, flag or the security of it's people for any amount of money on this earth....but could one honestly blow a whistle "like Area 51, deep NSA cover-ups, etc" without being erased?

I can tell you this much, I'm not sure if 9-11 was a govt cover-up...but even the thought shouldn't cross our minds (in reality), but that's the era/generation/government we live in today. Is the Bush family really linked to Hitler/Skull and Bones/NWO? Are they planning a world take over, and how many hands are in the pot? I'm not sure what's really going on, but the thought of it's a scary f'in animal.

Interesting about the Live Earth thing.

Its held on the magic number of 7/7/07.

The cities are:
London
New York
Johannesburg
Rio de Janeiro
Shanghai
Tokyo
Sydney
Hamburg
Istanbul

Just my take, but the site even looks suspicious...hmmm

I just went to the Live Earth site myself. It doesn't feel right to me either.You know how military operations always choose a code name? Well I kind of always thought 9/11 was more against the emergency response ( hence 911). Now this whole SOS thing has me a bit spooked.Especially since reading a thread awhile back about all things in the capital as far as historical events and landmarks, points to a major event in 2007. Now I'm not one to drink the koolaid but these people are heavily into numerology and symbology and thats the best way to keep track of what their up to.

Check out this thread refering to Cheyenne Mountain. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Okay I'm calling BS, big time. You were taken to a secret facility before you had signed the proper non-disclosure forms, and then they threatened to lock you up there unless you signed them? No, sorry, that's not how it works. In the real world, you don't get access to sensitive areas until after you have all the necessary paperwork in place.

One other thing, someone thinks that they PLANNED 9/11 as an EMERGENCY response? Anyone else see the contradiction here?

Seriously you guys are either suffering from extreme paranoia and should seek professional help, or you are just making stuff up.

....This multimedia campaign will ensure that the message of Live Earth echoes long after 7/7/07

SOS

Just fearmongering , but you're right, it has that woogie-boogie feel to it.



[edit on 7-6-2007 by Stale Cracker]

I never claimed it was planned strictly aimed at the emergency response. Really though, how many of them were killed? Is there not a coincidence to you between 911 and 9/11.Of course the guys on the front lines that day took a great loss. I was only pointing out the numerology reference, which may seem a far stretch for some and maybe Iam way off base.However there is lots of proof that theNWO uses numerology and symbology.That is what I was refering to.

StaleCracker you could be right. Maybe they are just playing on the fears of us "conspiracy theorists". Really though the entire SOS thing is a bit dramatic for a concert about climate change awareness. They really are making out to be an end of the world thing. I'm not even on AL Gore's bandwagon.

So I'll keep an eye open on this, just because the OP really points out some dubious stuff. (Grain of salt)
The part about if you live near a military base, keep your eyes open and just look? Yeah, I live 10 miles from the Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I live 15 miles from the Zion Nuclear Power Plant that has been closed and is now just a storage facility for the Heavy Water that was used to cool rods, blah, blah. I live 5 miles from the Wisconsin Border and as a Rail-Fan, I see a lot of Military equipment moving on flatcars all the time (up to 4 times a week). I read how the US isn't prepared to repel any invaders or respond to natural disasters because we're so spread out overseas, equipment-wise. Not from what I've seen. Odd that.
I've read some stuff like The Mars Report which mentions Great Lakes by name as a key base in the "other" space program. (grain of salt)
Fort Sheridan Army Base was closed 20 odd years ago. 90% of it is gated community now, but, the Army still owns some of the old buildings that served as "Top Brass Housing" while the base was open.
There was a Nike Missile installation 15 miles south of me, now closed and neighborhooded over, that as a early teen I went to with the Boy Scouts. We had a Jamboree there way back when and I remember 2 Scouts getting hurt falling inside the silos. (They weren't supposed to be in there)
I'm 45 minutes north of Chicago, so, I was relieved about not seeing a Live Earth concert in my city, but, sometimes I feel vulnerable as hell just being that close to a large city.
I dunno. Like I said, I'll keep my eyes open and all, but, I'm presenting an engagement ring to my fiancee that day (7/7/7) so forgive me if I don't panic yet. I have other things to worry about.

Eeek,
Cuhail

I can't say that I buy into the OP's story either, but I do have a couple of questions for posters here...
First: AccessDenied...

Buddy I do live near a military base, as does my sister in another town. Iam very fearful for both of us. There has been an increase in Military and police presence here in recent weeks,and though we are in Canada some of these troops are US.

So where are we talkin' about?
Secondly: Cuhail...

I've heard of these thing before. They are random security screening operations that are carried out through the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive to safeguard security operations.

Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive

Tim

I can't say that I buy into the OP's story either, but I do have a couple of questions for posters here...

First: AccessDenied...

Buddy I do live near a military base, as does my sister in another town. Iam very fearful for both of us. There has been an increase in Military and police presence here in recent weeks,and though we are in Canada some of these troops are US.

So where are we talkin' about?

Secondly: Cuhail...

I've read some stuff like The Mars Report which mentions Great Lakes by name as a key base in the "other" space program.

So what are we talkin' about?
Inquiring minds wanna know...

Originally posted by AccessDenied
Well I kind of always thought 9/11 was more against the emergency response ( hence 911).

Originally posted by AccessDenied
I never claimed it was planned strictly aimed at the emergency response.

My statement doesn't depend on it being planned strictly that way or mostly that way or even partly that way. The fact is that you don't plan an emergency response on a certain day, that just doesn't make sense. By definition, it is in response to an emergency which (again by definition) is "a sudden, urgent, usually unexpected occurrence or occasion requiring immediate action." Your original statement is silly. QED.

Originally posted by AccessDenied
Is there not a coincidence to you between 911 and 9/11.

Well the date was clearly chosen by whoever planned the attacks, so you'd have to ask them if it has any special meaning to them. The debate over exactly who that was (as absurd as it is) is off topic here so I won't say any more.

Originally posted by AccessDenied
However there is lots of proof that theNWO uses numerology and symbology.

It seems like you are just throwing claims out there and hoping that we'll believe you. You act as if it has been proven that NWO exists in the first place, which is (to put it mildly) a completely and utterly ridiculous stretch of the imagination. Unfortunately this again is off topic, but I guess when you're making stuff up it's hard not to wander off on a meaningless tangent.

My bottom line on this thread:
The original poster made several claims of illegal and unethical activity that he knows of due to special inside information. But from the start, it's obvious that he is clueless when it comes to basic security rules that anyone "on the inside" would know. It's extremely hard to regard his posts as anything more than paranoid fantasy.

Originally posted by mtmaraca
Okay I'm calling BS, big time. You were taken to a secret facility before you had signed the proper non-disclosure forms, and then they threatened to lock you up there unless you signed them? No, sorry, that's not how it works. In the real world, you don't get access to sensitive areas until after you have all the necessary paperwork in place.

Ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth.

Also, OP, the tree line stops like that because they want there to be no cover for a certain radius around the more secure areas. Also why a lot of bases have no shrubs or trees of any size or density. They don't want someplace you can hide out or put stuff.

About the closest I came to one of these "hey - something's going on here" moments was when I started trying to figure out where some cables went, and at the end of that road found out there was a lot more going on in the facility than I had been led to believe. But it wasn't really my business to know, and properly I should have just dropped it after "what is this bunch of cables?!" went outside my "AO".

So, yes, I agree that some bases do things you don't know about, some are much worse about it than others, and that's not especially surprising if you think about it.

edit: As for the other stuff, I don't know if you're just being oversensitive to random occurrences, but they do occasionally screw with you if you have TS in a happening facility or SCI just about anywhere. And yes, little intel buddies frequent the service bars around bases that do cool stuff and if they spot you as being a contractor or serviceman they might try to see if they can work you.

I think the most intrusive thing I've found is them coming in the house once in a blue moon when we're all gone for a while, the guy parks chewing gum on the pullchain for my bed lamp as a calling card.

[edit on 7-6-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

Again I was refering to the numerology involved in Sept.11. Whether you believe in theNWO or not is not for me to convince you. This is just me throwing out my observations for debate to get feedback from an intelligent perspective on ATS. Thank you for your feedback.Granted I could've posted my first responce differently.I was trying to point out the numerology connection with the emergency response personel whom many of which lost their lives and continue to do so to this day.Anything else you want clarified?

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
I can't say that I buy into the OP's story either, but I do have a couple of questions for posters here...


Secondly: Cuhail...

I've read some stuff like The Mars Report which mentions Great Lakes by name as a key base in the "other" space program.

So what are we talkin' about?
Inquiring minds wanna know...

Oh, it's a very scary story called, my mistake in the original mention, "The Mars Record". Here's a link:

The Mars Record

I don't buy it all and I take the rest with a brick of salt, but, it was a great telling.

Cuhail

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
I can't say that I buy into the OP's story either, but I do have a couple of questions for posters here...

First: AccessDenied...

Buddy I do live near a military base, as does my sister in another town. Iam very fearful for both of us. There has been an increase in Military and police presence here in recent weeks,and though we are in Canada some of these troops are US.

So where are we talkin' about?

He's talking about CFB North Bay, in North Bay Ontario.
Hey, AccessDenied am I right?