Dangers of Amalgam/Mercury Fillings Video - Actual Smoking Teeth Footage

RealTruth,
I'm always glad to see people conscious of this.

Mark my words, this issue will be seen as one of the stupidest things we've done, healthwise, in human history.
That's if the lid every gets properly blown on it.
This, along with immunisations.

But they have too much to lose with this, and people will be too angry.
So I doubt much would happen..

I'm a scale modeller, and use a variety of medical instruments for holding small objects, etc while I paint. So I decided a few years ago to cut out the middleman and buy direct.

I got a couple of wholesale catalogues from dental suppliers and noticed a few disturbing things. Interestingly, I was born extremely prematurely, almost to the point where the doctors felt it wasn't worth trying to save me, but my parents persisted and I'm here today. However one of the downsides was I was given antibiotics for about the first five years of my life to keep the bugs away (I also wasn't allowed out of the hospital either more or less until the first day I started school). Now, I was also told that I would never have good teeth - extensive use of antibiotics deteriorates teeth, and seriously makes them manky, so I had to have a considerable amount of fillings, most of which, being that I was born before synthetic resin fillings, meant mercury amalgam.

Back to my info - so being 'full of metal', I took an interest in looking at all the mercury products in the catalogues. I'm in the UK so this might be different in your country, but there were a few disturbing things as I say, here's a couple:

1. Mercury fillings don't contain that much mercury BUT they must be mixed by a qualified person, for at least 30-60 seconds (depends on brand and merc content) otherwise they are TOXIC and must be disposed of and a new batch started. It must be constantly mixed until 'injected' into the hole otherwise it gives off toxic vapour and starts to becomes hard.
2. Low quality mixes tend to reduce the tin/silver content and up the mercury, but to a maximum limit (about 6-12% in the catalogue I had).
3. To dispose of the used caps (it comes in a little cap that looks like a tablet, and the machine they mix the stuff in pierces the two ends and mixes it together as far as I can tell) they must be disposed of WITH GLOVES into a special bucket that CANNOT BE OVERFILLED and MUST be picked up by a LICENCED CHEMICAL WASTE contractor (with a speciality licence for mercury disposal). It must be incinerated in a special machine, with a special filter. The bucket also contains a filter that stops mercury vapour escaping into the surgery and must only be used for a certain amount of days (until the filter wears out I suspect).
4. Removal of mercury is meant to be undertaken by a specialist who is trained in its removal, and ALL of it needs to be removed (so some tooth is also drilled away as well). You may be required to SPIT into a special container rather than the normal 'water hole' although some have mercury traps in which stop the vapour like the disposal bucket (to ensure staff are not constantly harmed by the vapour). The dentist may require you to wear a MASK as well to stop you feeling unwell...

Interesting huh?

I've pretty much always been unwell, but at one point a lot of my fillings fell out when my baby teeth came out, and they were replaced with a newer mix that was topped off with resin - almost immediately I felt better, no sickness, no stomach problems, that I assumed before that were part of my original birth problems.

Do yourself a favour and get any taken out, its not worth the risk. Also note that the Flouride put into in water is actually a toxic by-product of certain industries and its cheaper to dispose of it into the water than it is to dispose of it properly. It causes various bone abnormalities and is a main contributor to 'brittle bone disease' in later life. It also causes some very strange discolouration of theeth in some people.

Thankfully, I'm allergic to flouride so I don't drink it (bottled water, special toothpaste)

For those who would like a bit more info, from the Kent Express catalogue, here's a variety of filling materials:

Here's an expensive brand (Kulzer):
Non-Gamma 2 (unpleasant chemical present in old mercury amalgam fillings as far as I can see from the marketing bull#) high copper solid alloy 69% silver, 24% copper (zinc free it assures me!) This is then mixed with a mercury capsule, and costs about £60 for 400 capsules, and £48 for (400) of the mercury capsules.

Interestingly, they have one that says "not affected by moisture, ZERO vapour leakage" and the above one that DOESN'T say that...

Something (could be the mercury) seems to be wrapped in lead foil. It seems to be something common, since it mentions it every so often here and there (as in a 'don't forget your lead foil removal bucket, a requirement by law'). Amalgam bucket is about £20 and says "contains intregal mercury vapour trap to protect your patients and staff from the risk of vapour poisoning". Cost to remove is included when you buy the bucket apparently *but only on some*. They have a shelf life of 3 months apparently.

Mercury capsules (on their own in a specially sealed container) have a skull and bones sticker and the one with the 'lil dead fishy on... They also seem to have a requirement that you've had to have bought at least one mercury contamination and spill kit off them (or with first order of mercury), which has big warning stickers all over it.

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Here's a general mixture for most METAL fillings these days, I guess if you don't specify (Kent Caps, own brand):
69.3% silver, 0.4% zinc, 10.9% copper, 19.4% tin - this seems to have no mercury in.

Weirdly, it seems the EXPENSIVE brands contain mercury, and the low-cost don't, bizarre. Most seem to contain at least 30% silver, and about the same copper, then the rest is either mercury or some other metal like tin, with and without zinc (which seems to be an allergen or aggravating agent in some people, hence the zero selling point in some more expensive brands).

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The paste, light-cure types are made from acrylic or polymer resin, and a binder of either zinc, calcium hydroxide, or 'mixed' ceramic powder which then is cured into a filling by the UV light they shove in your hole. These are fairly expensive, at least £100 per VERY small amount; 16g of each in most cases.

Top of the range composite is glass ionomer, which is milled glass, and some type of 'luting cement' that I can't find out what's in it at least not from the catalogue (which has everything else in it that I've posted in the previous post or this one). These apparently need to be refilled every 6-12 years depending on brand and wear. Some say 'nano' but my guess would be that's bull# for finely milled. The top of the range stuff seems to come as a pair of syringes that is ONE mix PER filling, and are roughly about £30 per refil.

NOT ALL contain flouride, they seem to do a mix with and a mix without in most of the ranges so I guess just ask for the without, which seems to be slightly dearer (probably because the flouride pollutors don't subsidize that brand). Some brands also contain POTTASIUM NITRATE, which I would imagine is also pretty nasty (appears to be a desensitizer used in root canal work), chlorhexidine or other types of anti-bacterial (some people are allergic to it and it is apparently quite harmful long-term which is why they don't use it for washing their hands when operating anymore) and or thymol (think its a naturally occuring bactericide from pines, but I could be wrong).

You'd be amused at the price of brand name items in the catalogue too. A well known brand of Chlorhexidine mouthwash is less than £2 when it costs at least 6 over the counter at your dentist. I'm one of those people that loves to see how much people mark stuff up by (I'm a business grad, what'd you expect), so wholesale catalogues are fun in my house.

I have 9 silver fillings and 5 crowns, also im only 24 years old. I have many problems with my body at the moment, back and mental problems. I hope I can fix this because the last 3 years have been horrible.

reply to post by Realtruth


Quackwatch says all these reports are lies.They are trying to sell you composite fillings.

Don't listen to them.

Mercury is safe.You cannot be harmed by Mercury.

Mercury fillings are perfectly safe and FDA approved.

Mercury is injected into you when you get a vaccination proving it is perfectly safe.

You should not have them removed.

You are very irresponsible.You are making our great pharmaceutical companies lose money and tax to the government from those profits.

This is a treacherous act.

You will be arrested under the patriot act and taken to gautanamno bay for your own protection.

You are forbidden to talk about this to anyone and could result in your being sued for loss of income by these entities.


Mercury fillings are perfectly safe and FDA approved.



[edit on 30-12-2007 by beckybecky]

[edit on 30-12-2007 by beckybecky]

This is an update video on Amalgam fillings Part 1 for all of you to see.

Dentist Speaks out and writes a book.





Part 2



[edit on 8-1-2008 by Realtruth]

Norway
First to Ban Dental Amalgams/Mercury

Norway First to Ban Mercury in Teeth/Amalgam Fillings

www.wddty.com

Announcing the ban, Norway’s Minister of Environment and Development Erik Solheim said: “Mercury is among the most dangerous environmental toxins. ”

Mercury has been banned from all dental fillings in Norway. Dentists in the country had to start using safer alternatives as a matter of law from the beginning of this year.

Don’t expect our dental guardians in the UK and the USA to follow their lead any time soon.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Originally posted by beckybecky
reply to post by Realtruth

 

Mercury is safe.You cannot be harmed by Mercury.

The FDA has never taken this stance.

Mercury fillings are perfectly safe and FDA approved.

Amalgam =/= mercury.

Mercury is injected into you when you get a vaccination proving it is perfectly safe.

False. There is no mercury in vaccinations. Even pre-1990s (1980s in some parts of Europe, even), there were thimerosal additives which contain methyl mercury, not the same as mercury.

You should not have them removed.

Many dentists are now suggesting removal of old fillings to replace them with composite for durability reasons, as well as the slim chance of any harmful effects.

Wow, beckybecky, you sure managed to fit a lot of disinfo into one post...I'm impressed.

reply to post by Glukoza



Please do not troll this thread without facts, your claims have zero facts, links or researched responses. Very strong position for only being here one day, but you'll learn the ropes. Welcome.

FDA has claimed for many years the Mercury in fillings were safe, mercury is toxic whatever the amount, in fact if mercury spills in any amount happen in a public area, or government owned facility it is shut down for days, until cleaned by HAZMAT teams.

www.toxicteeth.org...

Mercury is Mercury period I invite you to read the entire thread to come to an educated conclusion.

Another thread where the Government has admitted Mercury is causing problems in Vaccines in Federal Court.

"US Government Concedes Vaccines Cause Autism (26 February 2008)"






[edit on 27-3-2008 by Realtruth]

Originally posted by Realtruth
reply to post by Glukoza

 

Please do not troll this thread without facts, your claims have zero facts, links or researched responses. Very strong position for only being here one day, but you'll learn the ropes. Welcome.

I've been here for years, just took a break for a year and came back today. Nice assumption, though. I also don't see what my length of membership has to do with my worth on this board?

FDA has claimed for many years the Mercury in fillings were safe, mercury is toxic whatever the amount, in fact if mercury spills in any amount happen in a public area, or government owned facility it is shut down for days, until cleaned by HAZMAT teams.

Yes, for ELEMENTAL mercury, cleanups are required (not HAZMAT cleanups, I have spilled mercury in the lab and all it takes is a mercury disposal kit). However, the mercury in fillings is no ELEMENTAL mercury, as this would be liquid at room temperature. The amalgam previously used contains nearly inert molecular compounds containing mercury. That's like saying we should ban NaCl (table salt) because Cl2 (mustard gas) is deadly. Same concept.

Another thread where the Government has admitted Mercury is causing problems in Vaccines in Federal Court.

"US Government Concedes Vaccines Cause Autism (26 February 2008)"

This is what I missed about ATS: wild conjecture based on reading ONLY the headline. The government did not concede that the vaccines cause autism, nor did they concede that mercury causes autism. What they conceded was that the girl in question has a mitochondrial developmental disorder, leading to a neurological delay caused by her immune system being stressed at a young age.

Great twist on the story, though.

Originally posted by Glukoza
However, the mercury in fillings is no ELEMENTAL mercury, as this would be liquid at room temperature.

Actually, it is ELEMENTAL Mercury. Although the ADA is hiding the truths about ELEMENTAL Mercury, here is there definition of a filling.

ADA

Dental amalgam is a stable alloy made by combining elemental mercury, silver, tin, copper and possibly other metallic elements. Although dental amalgam continues to be a safe, commonly used restorative material, some concern has been raised because of its mercury content. - American Dental Association

As I said before you will need to read the entire thread throughly, as to understand what an Amalgam filling is all about. And for more credibility and understanding back your claims up with facts, it helps a great deal on ATS. Again welcome to ATS.



[edit on 28-3-2008 by Realtruth]

You need to crack open a basic, freshman-level chemistry text. If you "combined elemental silver, mercury, etc." you would be left with a goopy, liquid mess. What they mean is that these elements are what make up the COMPOUNDS in the filling. A compound is not the same as an element, as has been pointed out several times in this thread (hydrogen does not have the same properties as water, table salt is not the same as chlorine gas). Do you honestly think the ADA would go into details about covalent bonding between metallics and metalloids on their site? Do you think that information would be remotely useful to the general pubic, considering you yourself don't seem to grasp it?

Also, nice biting remark at the end. I didn't provide a source because the information I provided regarding elemental mercury is easily accesible in any low-level chemistry text. I assumed you had a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry, rather than just going off a quack's website.

Also, here is a quote from your own source, literally ONE SENTENCE after your own quote:

However, the mercury in amalgam combines with other metals to render it stable and safe for use in filling teeth.

This means the mercury is NOT elemental, it is in a stable, nonreactive compound. Read your own sources carefully, please.

Originally posted by Glukoza
I assumed you had a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry, rather than just going off a quack's website.

lol! ADA

I don't believe the American Dental association is a quack's website. Last I heard they have been around for a while.

This is the entire point of the thread ELEMENTAL Mercury is not a stable mixture, even the FDA admits this, ELEMENTAL Mercury is leaching out of this so called mixer. When it leaches out, vaporizes it harms humans. Please feel free to read entire thread to understand.

Originally posted by Realtruth
This is a fallacy put out by large corporations to sooth the minds of the masses.

Mercury in any form is toxic. I have done a lot of research through the years and have endless amounts of data from researchers, doctors and from universities doing independent studies on Mercury.

Here is research done by one of the leading MD/researchers/author/public speaker in the world his credentials are impeccable. Not many can refute his claims, unless you have the same background.

www.emedicine.com...

Barry Brenner, MD, PhD, FACEP, Professor of Emergency Medicine, Professor of Internal Medicine, and Professor of Anatomy and Neurobiology, Chairman, Department of Emergency Medicine, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences

His Research States:

Mercury in any form is toxic. The difference lies in how it is absorbed, the clinical signs and symptoms, and the response to treatment modalities. Mercury poisoning can result from vapor inhalation, ingestion, injection, or absorption through the skin.

Neurologic, gastrointestinal, and renal systems are the most commonly affected organ systems in mercury exposure.

* Organic mercury - Most devastating to the CNS

o Short-chained (methylmercury) - Affects the CNS

o Long-chained - Subacute/chronic effects similar to that of inorganic mercury exposure

* Elemental mercury - Primary neurologic toxicity

* Inorganic mercury salts

o Acute - Severe corrosive gastroenteritis, acute tubular necrosis

o Subacute or chronic - GI, neurologic, and renal dysfunction

[edit on 28-3-2008 by Realtruth]

I wasn't referring to the ADA as a quack site, I was referring to your "toxicteeth" site as a quack site.

Also, your quote from eMedicine doesn't even address the metal-metalloid compounds in amalgam fillings. The bonds in these compounds are drastically different than short-chain and metallic salts, as your quote refers to.

Please, point me to a study, an ACTUAL, peer-reviewed, study that correlates any health risks with amalgam fillings.

Great link with many reports, studies, research, sources, info more than one person could ever want to know about the dangers of Amalgam fillings.


www.curezone.com...





[edit on 25-4-2008 by Realtruth]

All the links on your site which provide supposed "evidence" are broken. They are result in a "Discontinued" page.

Try again with a substantive site, rather than someone's personal dot com.

Conclusive Research by University of Calgary Faculty of Medicine and Department of Physiology and Biophysics.

A great study by the University of Calgary Faculty of Medicine and Department of Physiology and Biophysics, on dangers of Mercury and Mercury Amalgam fillings.

We will hear and see more on this dangerous topic as more is uncovered.

I hope more disinfo agents interject because it really strengthens a cause.

And for those that think that Mercury and Mercury Amalgam fillings are not toxic

Watch this Video done by experts with internationally recognized credentials.





[edit on 26-4-2008 by Realtruth]

Originally posted by Glukoza
Also, here is a quote from your own source, literally ONE SENTENCE after your own quote:

However, the mercury in amalgam combines with other metals to render it stable and safe for use in filling teeth.

This means the mercury is NOT elemental, it is in a stable, nonreactive compound. Read your own sources carefully, please.

the pertaining question remains:

does mercury vaporise and leech out of amalgam fillings.


the specific wavelength absorption test shown in the video on p1 is very convincing. besides, if something has to be treated as toxic waste when disposed of, why is it permanently inserted into peoples' mouths?

www.youtube.com...

if something has to be treated as toxic waste when disposed of, why is it permanently inserted into peoples' mouths?

All fluids and matter removed from a patient in any clinical setting is considered biohazardous as dictated by OSHA.