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I miss the days of smoke-filled rooms when crooked pols chose corrupt presidential candidates who were approximately sane. Today we have a sort of presidential bus-station lottery. We choose as ruler any beer-hall putz who can shake hands and grin his way successfully through New Hampshire. This, plus the deep rot of the American political framework, is allowing the rapid conversion of the United States into something previous Americans would hardly recognize.
Permit me a foray of a paragraph into psychojournalism. It fascinates me to know that George Bush was a male cheerleader at Andover. Yes, it could have been worse. He might have been a table-dancer. But most of us who were in high school when he was recognize that you either came to watch football, or you came to watch the girl cheerleaders. There was something odd about a boy who wanted to be one.
We are ruled by a male cheerleader who favors torture. I wonder what things twist in the inner fog.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
I recommend you read a book called, the Nazis a warning from history by Laurence Rees, also was televised by the BBC some years back, I think you will find it very illuminating.
Where will this lead? Obviously, to vastly increased police powers. But I wonder. If, down the pike, Bush announced that to protect us from terrorism he would have to postpone the presidential elections and remain in office—what would happen? Suppose he came up with a bit of supportive theater. If just before the elections something blew up, and were attributed not to the CIA but to Terrace, what then? The Reichstag has burned before. The public, the congress, the judiciary are so very, very easily manipulated. All it takes is the will to do it.
www.fredoneverything.net...
I do not predict that the reigning curiosity will stage a coup (which should it occur would not be a coup but “an emergency measure,” necessary to protect us from Terrace). I do say that what is happening today is unlike anything that has happened before, and that people do not always see what is coming. If you read books from the Germany of the 1930s, you will find that people were uneasy, divided, unsure of things, but had no idea just what the squatty little man with the voice had in mind for them. He just did it. The unimaginable does sometime occur. We notice only afterward.
Originally posted by seagull
Oh but the Executive does have the right to decide if a declaration of war is neccesitated by events...he can't do it himself, but he makes the final call as to tne neccessity, requiring only Congressional approval.
US Constitution:
Article I
Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
. . .
Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Grady, America has an history of backing and supporting terrorists and despot regimes, do you really believe that any intelligent person is going to believe that Al Qaeda, exists or is not a product of the CIA. ASmerica wants an excuse to wage war on the world and will stop at nothing to do so, You either support that or you dont. But either way America will loose of that I am certain, just as all others empires and would be Hitlers have lost.
Originally posted by seagull
I've yet to see any valid comparisons between where we are as a nation, and the period of time when Hitler's minions burned the Reichstag, and blamed the Jews.
Outside source According to The Daily Express of London of March 24, 1933, the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and her elected government. The headline read "Judea Declares War on Germany - Jews of All the World Unite - Boycott of German Goods - Mass Demonstrations." The article described a forthcoming "holy war" and went on to implore Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and engage in mass demonstrations against German economic interests. According to the Express:
The whole of Israel throughout the world is uniting to declare an economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany has revived the old war symbol of Judas to new life. Fourteen million Jews scattered over the entire world are tight to each other as if one man, in order to declare war against the German persecutors of their fellow believers.
The Jewish wholesaler will quit his house, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his business, and the beggar his humble hut, in order to join the holy war against Hitler's people.
The Express said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry.... In London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade."
The article said "worldwide preparations are being made to organize protest demonstrations," and reported that "the old and reunited nation of Israel gets in formation with new and modern weapons to fight out its age old battle against its persecutors."
This truly could be described as "the first shot fired in the Second World War."
In a similar vein, the Jewish newspaper Natscha Retsch wrote:
The war against Germany will be waged by all Jewish communities, conferences, congresses... by every individual Jew. Thereby the war against Germany will ideologically enliven and promote our interests, which require that Germany be wholly destroyed.
The danger for us Jews lies in the whole German people, in Germany as a whole as well as individually. It must be rendered harmless for all time.... In this war we Jews have to participate, and this with all the strength and might we have at our disposal.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
How many times this very subject been broached on ATS? Twenty? Thirty?
.. anyone who seriously compares GW Bush to Adolph Hitler is not to be taken seriously.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
do you really believe that any intelligent person is going to believe that Al Qaeda, exists or is not a product of the CIA.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
[INTELLIGENT people do understand that al-qaeda exists. Terrorism is real. If you don't believe it is then I guess you slept through the USS COLE; Bali bombings; Spain train bombings; English subway bombings; 9/11; etc. etc.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
Hitler didn’t blame the Jews for the Reichstag fire, he blamed the Polish communists. The reason the Jews were hated during WW2 was because they declared an economic war against Germany in 1933. Why has this fact been omitted from most of the history books? Every crime has a motive, and the world-wide Jewish community trying to ruin the new German economy was the motive for the atrocities against the Jewish people.
[edit on 22-10-2006 by LoneGunMan]
Originally posted by Darkmind
Congratulations, you just fell for the biggest pile of rubbish ever. This is a load of arrant nonsense, published in one of the worst papers in Britain at that time. It was owned by Lord Beaverbrook, who was not a very nice man and who would jump on bandwagons like buses.
Can I remind people how anti-semitic people could be at times? The headline has been omitted from history because it is a load of complete tosh.