John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

Originally posted by SearchEngine

So what do we think this 'box' could possibly be?

Any ideas?

Its obviously a 3 or 4 level parking garage, the ramp is on the left.

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by SearchEngine

So what do we think this 'box' could possibly be?

Any ideas?

Its obviously a 3 or 4 level parking garage, the ramp is on the left.

OBVIOUSLY!!!

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are a disinformant, johnlear. No offense, but I mean, some of the stuff that you write is just so ridiculous.

Originally posted by Mouth

OBVIOUSLY!!!

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are a disinformant, johnlear. No offense, but I mean, some of the stuff that you write is just so ridiculous.

No offense taken. If you don't think it is a parking garage please state your reasons. Thanks.

Honestly, it could be anything. the resolution is terrible. It's like those inkblot tests psychiatrists do for their patients. Your imagination pretty much decides what it is. If that was a parking garage, where are the roads leading to it? Why is there no cars driving around? I mean, can you honestly look at that "close up" and say, "Yup, thats a parking garage alright. I know for a fact."

Edit:
Just my opinion I guess, since I am no expert by any means. I just feel that it is so impractical to have secret bases on the moon.

[edit on 18/9/06 by Mouth]

I realize it's a box we're supposed to be looking for...

but this is the floating sphere that caught my eye in the Copernicus 1 image




yeah I know it's camera dirt or water drops or something like that

hope you can see it too, or do I need to circle it?

[edit on 9-18-2006 by worldwatcher]

John, is this anything you've looked at already? It looks like a dome with three hexagonal impressions or openings maybe.



And I wouldn't think these 'riverbed' type features would be possible on the moon?

Originally posted by johnlear
No offense taken. If you don't think it is a parking garage please state your reasons. Thanks.

I've seen 3 or 4 other square 'boxes' also.
So... do these aliens need lots of parking space then?

Well. To be serious. I would think that storage buildings are universal.

I look at those photo's and see rocks and dirt. Dont they tell us to look for right angles because right angles cant occur naturally. I see none so I have to conclude that there are no man/martian made anomolies in any of those photographs. I think you guys are suffering from pareidolia.

Is it me or...



does that look exactly like a strip mining operation?

That was my thought too. It looks like any stripmine I've ever seen, including the switchback trails for mining vehicles. Somebody mining our moon for He3?

Originally posted by Mouth

Honestly, it could be anything.

No. It couldn't be anything. First of all it couldn't be a market because markets are usually one story, ground level. Patrons don't want to walk upstairs for some beans. Second of all, it can't be a flyng saucer because it is not saucer shaped. Thirdly it can't be an alien because it doesn't have big almond shaped eyes. No, it can't be 'anything'.

the resolution is terrible.

I disagree. For a moon picture I think the resolution is extraordinary. But if you are comparing it to Ansel Adams photographs of Yosemite, then the resolution is lacking.

It's like those inkblot tests psychiatrists do for their patients.

No. Inkblots are smudges of ink used to determine alleged states of mind based
on average or norms. This is not an inkblot.

Your imagination pretty much decides what it is.

My imagination is tempered with years of photo interpretation so what I see in form may look like just tricks of light and shadows to those with less experience.

If that was a parking garage, where are the roads leading to it?

Since we are looking at a structure straight on I would assume that the roads, if any, would be visible around the object from an overhead view. However, Copernicus5, looks straight down on the object and I am unable to find the object itself or roads if any.

Why is there no cars driving around?

Well, for one thing, its a still picture and a still picture does not show movement. For another all the cars may be parked. Or it might be Sunday or whatever day Moon people take off to go to church.

I mean, can you honestly look at that "close up" and say, "Yup, thats a parking garage alright. I know for a fact."

Nope. Can't say I know that for a fact. But it sure looks like a parking garage to me. I guess what tipped me off was the ramp on the left. Otherwise it could have been just a bank building.

Edit:
Just my opinion I guess, since I am no expert by any means. I just feel that it is so impractical to have secret bases on the moon.

I agree that you are no expert. As to your 'feelings' that it is 'so impractical' to have secret bases on the moon I believe that there are those who would disagree. Why do you feel it is 'so impractical' to have secret bases on the moon? Thanks for taking the time to respond to my questions.

Well, at least if it is a parking garage, it's in a logical spot at the top of the quarry.

This does look like a stripmining area IMHO.

I can't find the box, but this is pretty wierd.

Originally posted by johnlear
Its obviously a 3 or 4 level parking garage, the ramp is on the left.

You're a funny guy! At least I hope you are.

Originally posted by johnlear

No. It couldn't be anything. First of all it couldn't be a market because markets are usually one story, ground level. Patrons don't want to walk upstairs for some beans. Second of all, it can't be a flyng saucer because it is not saucer shaped. Thirdly it can't be an alien because it doesn't have big almond shaped eyes. No, it can't be 'anything'.

It could also be rock formations, shadows, crap on the lens, etc.

I disagree. For a moon picture I think the resolution is extraordinary. But if you are comparing it to Ansel Adams photographs of Yosemite, then the resolution is lacking.

Well, fuzzy photos really don't give any evidence at all. because of the lack of resolution, you can't make anything out.

No. Inkblots are smudges of ink used to determine alleged states of mind based
on average or norms. This is not an inkblot.

Durrr... I know it is not an inkblot, I know it is a picture of the moon's landscape. What I was trying to convey to you, is that the results of inkblot tests are subject to the imagination of the patient: in other words, whatever the patient wants to see in the inkblot, he sees. I think this is a similar case. I think you are seeing what you want to see, what you wish to see, when in reality, there is just shadows, rock formations, etc.

My imagination is tempered with years of photo interpretation so what I see in form may look like just tricks of light and shadows to those with less experience.

see, I can't take what you say as fact, because the way I see it, none of your observations of these photos makes sense to me. I guess that is my own problem.

Since we are looking at a structure straight on I would assume that the roads, if any, would be visible around the object from an overhead view. However, Copernicus5, looks straight down on the object and I am unable to find the object itself or roads if any.

Either way, from this perspective I don't see any access ways to this so-called garage. But then again, you must be seeing something that I don't.

Well, for one thing, its a still picture and a still picture does not show movement. For another all the cars may be parked. Or it might be Sunday or whatever day Moon people take off to go to church.

Comments like this make me thing that you are being condescending, which in my opinion hinders the discussion.

Nope. Can't say I know that for a fact. But it sure looks like a parking garage to me. I guess what tipped me off was the ramp on the left. Otherwise it could have been just a bank building.

That, sir, is really all I wanted to hear (read).

I agree that you are no expert. As to your 'feelings' that it is 'so impractical' to have secret bases on the moon I believe that there are those who would disagree. Why do you feel it is 'so impractical' to have secret bases on the moon? Thanks for taking the time to respond to my questions.

Don't worry, I don't think you are an expert either.

The amount of money it costs to get to the moon is astronomical. The distance (over 220 thousand miles) takes a while to travel. The secrecy just doesnt make any sense whatsoever. The ability to hide everything from ameteur astronomers would be astounding. Oh wait, I forgot, in another thread, you said there were forests on the moon, breathable air, whole cities etc. You have yet to show conclusive evidence of your claims, along with counter arguments that go against the physics that govern this solar system.

So again, what I see, what I have always seen with your photos, are just pretty shots of the moon, and nothing more.

[edit on 18/9/06 by Mouth]

Originally posted by Mouth
The secrecy just doesnt make any sense whatsoever. The ability to hide everything from ameteur astronomers would be astounding.

I'm stunned. Just what do you hope to see with any scope? You do realize the moon is big, right? It's over a quarter of the diameter of Earth.

You may be suprised to learn that a sigificant number of professional and amateur astronomers are highly interested in ufo's and believers. Clyde Tombaugh is a good example, he discovered Pluto, by the way.

As for hiding things, perhaps you would be interested to see video confessions from ex-NASA employees about the photo destruction operations?

I found the box thing and I think I've located the area on the overhead photo, at least the landmarks all seem to line up. The box should be somewhere in the yellow circle but I can't find it. I hope this photo is not too large for the forum rules.

I´m puzzled. People are seeing weired stuff all over the picture but my 10yrs of proffesional work with negatives leaves me completly clueless. I must be looking for the wrong things. Still interesting tho...

John, i agree about that these are nice samples of moon pictures but i´m still puzzled by the fact that even to this day i have not seen a single overhead image of the surface which really is an image with acceptable sharpness. I mean, i know very well what a Hasselblad is capable of (some of the landing imagery shows this) and the overhead shots is nowhere near this level. Kinda makes me go...hm...

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe

I found the box thing and I think I've located the area on the overhead photo, at least the landmarks all seem to line up. The box should be somewhere in the yellow circle but I can't find it. I hope this photo is not too large for the forum rules.

WOW!!! Thanks. Excellent find or actually excellent search. This is the second item that has been 'airbrushed' or eliminated in Copernicus5. Your photo is a definate keeper.