John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

Hexagonal Region discovered on Saturn!!!

Yes thats what I said a huge hexagon discovered on Saturn at the pole.



Here is the same region in Infrared...

The object in the center is interesting...

While I am straying a little and in context with John's last post...

For those of you who take us seriously and believe in remote viewing and/or astral projection...

You will find this site immensely interesting. Lobsang T Rampa in the 60's also wrote of a trip to Venus...

Now the skeptics will naturally scoff at this... so be it... this information is not directed at them, and I doubt they will even read it

www.soundcurrentrider.com...

Originally posted by zorgon So pick one, put down the chalk and get out to the garage and pick up a tool...Ain't GOT several lifetimes ya know...

All too true. And we can get to the Moon or any other planetary body with what we already have, J Biggs and others know it and could hook us up. But do you want to enter the frontier in a covered wagon or rather in an iron horse?

Applying current science to understand the UFO is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Duplication just doesn't cut it. What we need is a super science, one whose superphysical laws can achieve the desired result in the physical world by revealing more than one solution to a problem, or expressing an equation by substituting a superior view of the variables and constants which in turn lead to many more undiscovered expressions of the same laws.

Does this make sense?

If the phenomenal world is a subset of the numenal, which I believe it is, than the superphysical laws express themselves in the phenomenal and hold true for the numenal dimension as well. So we need the higher operations, not these reductionist four dimensional ones.

Now does it make more sense?

An interstellar navigation system is a prime example. The amount of data crunching would be in itself astronomical, far beyond what we have today. But with a superior method, all that could be reduced to a simple operation.

My work with electrodynamics, while sound and effective, will not lead to further understanding of the subquark structure of reality, or FTL transport, OU, AG, reverse time travel, space warps, and all those other fancy tricks for big boys. The superscience will. Top down, not bottom up.

And as far as lifetimes, it sure helps when the teacher lives! That was the problem with RS2, while promising, too many impasses were encountered because the teacher wasn't there to be queried, "I don't understand what you mean here, could you clarify it?" or "And just why have you changed your position when we had it all figgered out?". What would you do if you discovered Einstein was alive today? What questions would you ask him? And what would he say about the way we interpreted his work? And just why does nobody channel him today? Could it be that...

there is no substitute for the teacher?

So "picking one", as you put it, mandates active inclusion and participation of its creator.

Originally posted by undo
luna3 done,
working on lunar orbiter, which is as big as apollo was. this will take awhile,
then on to the huge site zorgon linked.

thestargates.com...

Undo. This is great that you are collecting all of these for safe keeping

I don't know whether this link has been posted previously, but this is the best LO site I've found. ~14mb Tiffies

ser.sese.asu.edu...

You can go cross-eyed looking at these

only five more images to download and the site will be finished, then on to
the big site that zorgon linked, then on to the lunar orbiter site zarniwoop linked.

egads, am i allowed to download all this? this is legal right? lol

Originally posted by undo

egads, am i allowed to download all this? this is legal right? lol

Yeppers... this is all public domain.

Here's the guidelines for use of NASA imagery...

images.jsc.nasa.gov...

alrighty. what about the proviso regarding known figures such as astronauts in the photo?

done with the first link.
working on the jpl photojournal tiffs.
actually, in the process of downloading them.
haven't converted them to png yet
or uploaded them to server and oh my
word, there literally is 9000 + photos in this file.

Originally posted by Matyas But do you want to enter the frontier in a covered wagon or rather in an iron horse?

Well as I recall those covered wagons were not to good when people started shooting pointy sticks at them... I guess I can wait a little to ride in comfort... smoking car too yes?

Does this make sense?

Yes it does... but have you figured out just how much Bismuth I need to collect yet?

An interstellar navigation system is a prime example. The amount of data crunching would be in itself astronomical, far beyond what we have today. But with a superior method, all that could be reduced to a simple operation.

Well we could always recruit an Alien navigator for the data crunching, but a short test hop to the moon and back shouldn't be too difficult to calculate... I mean after all those guys at NASA got it right, once they figured out the true gravity of the moon

So "picking one", as you put it, mandates active inclusion and participation of its creator.

Channeling Einstein... now there is a thought... You make up the questions and I will see if I can roust a channeler

Originally posted by undo

egads, am i allowed to download all this? this is legal right? lol

Confucious say: Ilegal is a sick bird...

The Hexagon on Saturn is PIA09188 and its 648 megs in tiff That one is still downloading now

The Lunar Orbiter high res are cool, but they are missing all the images of the areas we want to see...

and as you approach the moon, one of you says

"That's no moon! It's a space station!"
"That's not a space station. It's too big to be a space station. ... "
"Turn the ship around."
"Yeahhh, I think you're right. Chewie, turn the ship around!"



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egads, i know, it's at 17% still ... err 18%

i saw the size of that file and thought, that's bigger than my entire first computer.

29%, 30%, 31%, 32%.. oy, i wnoder if my comp will even operate after this. lol

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lol it's so big, the batch converter has been working at converting it to a png for the last five minutes.

EDIT: Ended up having to open it in paintshop and save it as a png that way. it was too big for the batch converter. lol thing was huge! good news is, as a png it went from being 618mg tif file to 40mg png file, one of those occassions where saving as a png is actually a plus. i can't figure out how the png works, exactly. some of the tif files when converted to png were smaller than the tif and some were larger than the tif. thank goodness this was a case where it was smaller.

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the files have been converted to png and the downloads begin. at least most of these are small files. the folder will be called "photojournal", some are already available to view. by this time tomorrow it should be done lol (provided the 40mg one doesn't ping out on me

thestargates.com...

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Thanks John and Zorgon

You mean to tell me our government lies to us? They think we are all babes in this world and that they are masters of deception. I do relize that there has to be secrecy as you know when it comes to our military. When it comes to the greatest discovery ever about life in our Solar System thats another story, and that our government has made contact with alien civilizations it should make the whole world very angry for hidding the real truth from everyone.

It all boils down to control, power, greed and money as we all know. A few controlling the masses. Yes we as a civilization always take the chance when an outsider with more power, technology and brain power comes into the picture. Cortez proved that theory with the conquering of the Aztecs.

I feel that if the aliens were going to take us over they could do that at any anytime. I do relize maybe the aliens could be planning to take us over slowly who really knows. I do feel humans of this Earth have been protected from being taken over by our protectors so far, and who our protectors are that is a good question.

The ultimate for a human being is free will but I believe in certain times in our lives that we have been manipulated from outside, lets call it a test. I do believe in an Ultimate Creator many call God.

Zorgon I appreciate the info on Moon rocks and mining operations. Rik Riley

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we should save all these images in more than one format. such as on CD ,
hard copied onto print paper then encased in that plastic coating they put on IDs, sealed in a water proof safe and buried under john's house in a cement-lined, water resistant enclosure with security system...and watch dogs. lol

Originally posted by rikriley...You mean to tell me our government lies to us? They think we are all babes in this world and that they are masters of deception.

If you ask a Central European they will tell you that is what they are supposed to do-so what is new? The babes part I think is actually compartmentalization, that stumbling blind giant which comes across in such fashion.

They may in fact not be aware they have such information, at least I don't think it is a conspiracy on a wide scale except when it comes down to policy...now that is the exception. All aliens must register!

Looking for Lunar Orbiter highres pictures?
Try this site SER
Did I read "RES: 0.7 m/p" ?


I was looking at the lo3_m85f picture that I think is very interesting and on the ser site you find this one
SER.

It is the Ukert crater. What is interesting is the difference of the crater to the right of it. And in this next there is another feature.
3 pictures, 3 different features in it?

Originally posted by looofo

It is the Ukert crater. What is interesting is the difference of the crater to the right of it. And in this next there is another feature.
3 pictures, 3 different features in it?

Different NASA airbrushers worked on different images so where one airbrusher might treat an image viewed from the south in one way, a different airbrusher working on a photo of the same area but as viewed from east to west might treat the artifacts (buildings, antennae, equipment, bridges etc.) in a different way.

What is interesting about AS10-32-4810 is that after about 10 frames of this area no other photo is taken on that roll of film until half way around the moon of an obscure, small crater on the far-side.

UNDO, John, & Zorgon,

I have all the AS16 HI RES photos that eol.jsc.nasa.gov has to offer queued up at the moment if you would also like to download them all to save. I have copied them all to my hard drive myself.

The images are:

ISD_highres_AS16_AS16-121-19345 --->
ISD_highres_AS16_AS16-121-19457


heres the link:

eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

Just set the view to details and highlight all the AS16 images and select copy to folder

Let me know if you want me to go through and queue up any other mission HI RES images they may have. It does take a bit cause I have to go into each image link and hit request, then it takes about 4-5 minutes and it puts them into the FTP link for about 24 hours.

I hope this helps guys.

~Anathema

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Originally posted by anathema777
UNDO, John, & Zorgon,

I have all the AS16 HI RES photos that eol.jsc.nasa.gov has to offer queued up at the moment if you would also like to download them all to save. I have copied them all to my hard drive myself.


heres the link:

eol.jsc.nasa.gov...


Let me know if you want me to go through and queue up any other mission HI RES images they may have. It does take a bit cause I have to go into each image link and hit request, then it takes about 4-5 minutes and it puts them into the FTP link for about 24 hours.

That's YOUR harddrive?


Any .tif files of these?