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Originally posted by k4rupt
Hmm... I read somewhere that there still exists the spear that the Roman soldier used to spear Jesus. It's in a museum or something... Maybe, just maybe, Jesus' DNA is on that spear? I'm not sure, but an amusing thought that in the future we could clone Jesus.
"However, the Master Zanoni (from the White Lodge), dresses in a black tunic and wears a distinguished mantle of the same color, but never a black hood. This is because the black hood is only for black magicians." - Samael Aun Weor
Jesus' Bloodline
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you (the mystery of my wife Mary Magdalene is “MM” and any “Master Mason” knows that! Is not perhaps Christ “Shin”, the Son of Nun, which is the final outcome of the blood? and), except a man be born of water (MeM, Mary Magdalene, who develops the Son of Nun in her Belly) and of the (Holy) Spirit (Ruach Elohim, Aleph), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God….
The wind (Aleph as oxygen) blows (the fire in the blood) where it listens (the “IAO” and transmutes the water into wine), and (when the fire is awakened) you hear the sound thereof (within your “Vav”, Spinal Medulla), but cannot tell whence it comes, and whither it goes (because it rises according to Nous, the fires of the heart): so is every one that is born of the Spirit (Aleph that hovers upon the Waters - MeM, Mother Mary).
Originally posted by Freeman
What did the book say about his lineage? That it was persecuted and hanuted by all kinds of bodies. ... Didnt Brown said something about the secret society needed to guard this secret?
Try "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail" by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh. This is the nonfiction book that Brown took most of his ideas from.
Originally posted by Reality Hurts
This topic always confounds me.
We have no real historic proof of Jesus and only heresay of wide-eyed followers speculating about his life and endeavors. But, for arguements sake, lets say he was real, and he did have followers. Let's even go so far as to say that he was imbued by a supreme being with divine physics-defying powers.
Why all the fuss about possible offspring? One would assume that diety-like powers aren't inherited, but bestowed. And even if they were, I think it would be safe to assume that 8,000 generations later, they'd be so watered down that they'd be non-existant.
So whats the big deal? That he had children when a book said he didn't? Maybe I'm just thick, I don't get it.
Originally posted by mindtrip02
there is a lot of proof that there was a man names "jesus". the part of him actually living is not in question,the part of him
being divine and actually the son of god is.
there is writing of him everywhere, not only in the bible.
jesus was here.. but was he the son of god.. i think so. but thats just me.. i have faith.
-mindtrip02
[edit on 1-9-2006 by mindtrip02]
Originally posted by mindtrip02
no, actually they have never tested the part of the "spear" itself. it is noted that there is alot of other metals and wood surrounding a piece in the middle that they have not yet tested. they know that the parts surrounding it date from the 3rd century all the way to the middle ages.which proves that its been thru alot of peoples hands. but since they have not tested the middle part of it, its hard to tell what year it came from.
im out
-mindtrip02
[edit on 1-9-2006 by mindtrip02]
As for the 'Nail of the Lord', examination reveals it to be not a nail at all, but some kind of pin or toggle. All that remains is the possibility - real, according to Feather - that some fragments of a genuine crucifixion nail might have been forged or beaten into it.
To put the issue beyond reasonable doubt, Feather sets off for the British Museum to compare x-rays of the Vienna spear with others of a similar design and period. If they match, he will have ended the argument. It is impossible to believe that a faker in 1945, let alone any technological visionary in or before the time of Christ, could have replicated with microscopic accuracy the materials and methods of a 7th-century armourer.
With Feather's results, the last gasp of air leaks from the fantasists' balloon. The metallurgical profile of the spear of destiny precisely matches the British Museum's medieval lookalikes. The spear is exactly what it appears to be - old, but not old enough to have pierced the side of Christ; and emphatically not a fake