President Quietly Ignores Laws, page 1

posted on Apr, 30 2006 @ 08:19 AM

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President Bush has been quietly ignoring or challenging more than 750 laws in recent years, according the the Boston Globe. These laws include whistle-blower protections, immigration rules, and military regulations.

www.truthout.org

President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Legal scholars say the scope and aggression of Bush's assertions that he can bypass laws represent a concerted effort to expand his power at the expense of Congress, upsetting the balance between the branches of government. The Constitution is clear in assigning to Congress the power to write the laws and to the president a duty ''to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Bush, however, has repeatedly declared that he does not need to ''execute" a law he believes is unconstitutional.

But with the disclosure of Bush's domestic spying program, in which he ignored a law requiring warrants to tap the phones of Americans, many legal specialists say Bush is hardly reluctant to bypass laws he believes he has the constitutional authority to override.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

This is not intended as a "Bush bashing" submission, but it would appear that he has been quietly circumventing the legislative branch quite a bit more than is being reported. We've seen his interpretation of laws in the domestic wiretapping scandal questioned by both congressmen and federal judges, and yet he is still using his executive authority to continuously bypass laws that restrict what he deems to be his constitutional authority. I have rarely agreed with the Liberal take on any issue, but I'm really starting to think that maybe some of the critics on the left might actually be on to something here.

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twitchy

posted on Apr, 30 2006 @ 11:03 AM

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You can read the entire article without a subscription at truthout...
www.truthout.org...
What do you expect from an administration that is completely above electoral acountability? The Bush regime has been in power since at least Reagan, all the way through Clinton who was a Bush family lackey.

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snafu7700

posted on Apr, 30 2006 @ 11:20 AM

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thanks twitchy.....i've edited the submission to use your link.

although i have to disagree with your view of clinton being a bush lackey. they (he and bush sr.) may be good friends now, but they were most definitely not on friendly terms personally or politically before and during clinton's presidency.

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twitchy

posted on Apr, 30 2006 @ 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by snafu7700
thanks twitchy.....i've edited the submission to use your link.

although i have to disagree with your view of clinton being a bush lackey. they (he and bush sr.) may be good friends now, but they were most definitely not on friendly terms personally or politically before and during clinton's presidency.

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You might be suprised...
www.google.com...
It's blatantly obvious if you dig into it, Clinton and Bush had the same lawyer to pull them out of the BCCI scandal and the things that went on in Mena AK involving the Bush family and Clinton would shame a hardened criminal.

snafu7700

posted on May, 1 2006 @ 07:23 AM

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nobody's interested in this abuse of presidential authority, huh? i would have figured with all the threads about illegal wire-tapping and general officers calling for removal of the defsec you guys would be interested in Bush's reasoning behind bypassing the laws.

Tranceopticalinclined

posted on May, 1 2006 @ 07:27 AM

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Its nutz that he can even do this, with information out there no one cares an bam there i answered my own question, No one cares......

thats just lovely, wonder if people will care once laws that someone does care about gets walked over,

I mean u can only trample the flowers in the mine field for so long.....

so karmicly lets what the show, cuz man its gonna be big.

LazarusTheLong

posted on May, 1 2006 @ 11:29 AM

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Its not a lack of interest...
just an observation of the obvious...

IMO these obvious attempts to overstep authority have finally started to be headed...

So...
how many licks does it take to the center of the publics outrage?

about 750 i think...

Nows the time... People are calling him to the forefront, and as many an insider said, the rats are fleeing the ship...

Ought to be anyday now...
another terrorist attack, or a new proposal to impeach the whole ruddy lot.

also, Twitchy is right about the Clinton/Bush connection... Mena arkansas.
Money does work across partisan boundarys rather easily.

grover

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:14 AM

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Just one more bit of proof that Jr. feels he is above the law. And it will continue as long as his enabler congress and the courts let him get away with it.

ceci2006

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:22 AM

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I've asked many times where's the outrage on certain stories having to do with the Bush Administration. But, I simply believe as I said on the "Impeach Bush Now" thread: Bush supporters, like terrorists, cannot be negotiated with.

This is an obvious fact that he has circumvented the law. A lot of us has brought up proof that Mr. Bush has violated an entire number of things. And we still do.

But, like the faithful people they are, Bush Supporters keep on hollering down dissenters and twisting the meaning of patriotism and americanism just because their pundits tell them to.

I've learned you can't undo five years of programming. Karl Rove ought to be proud.

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snafu7700

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by ceci2006

But, like the faithful people they are, Bush Supporters keep on hollering down dissenters and twisting the meaning of patriotism and americanism just because their pundits tell them to.

sweeping generalizations are pretty ignorant IMHO. i voted for bush and i think you'll find that i'm the one who submitted this story.

bashing everyone with a differing opinion is not the way to win people over.

grover

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by snafu7700

Originally posted by ceci2006

But, like the faithful people they are, Bush Supporters keep on hollering down dissenters and twisting the meaning of patriotism and americanism just because their pundits tell them to.

sweeping generalizations are pretty ignorant IMHO. i voted for bush and i think you'll find that i'm the one who submitted this story.

bashing everyone with a differing opinion is not the way to win people over.

It is not all current or former bush supporters snafu7700, but there are most certianly a fanatical branch of the Republican party that is unlike any group I have seen in the 30 plus years I have been voting and watching politics. I have said before and I will say again, there are plenty of good and decent conservatives and republicans out there that I can respect, even if I disagree with them, but the fanatics that have taken over the republican party are a beast of an entirely different color.

ceci2006

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 01:33 PM

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I agree with grover, snafu7700. I know conservatives that are independent thinkers who discovered they have been hoodwinked. But there are some people who refuse to see the light. Again and again, after even the most intricate of evidence has been produced to prove Bush's culpability, they refuse to read it. They end up saying it is "liberal propaganda".

And that's even if you use something traditonally conservative like FOX news to disprove their points, they still can't see it. That goes double when you prove through legitimate resources like legal documents, election reports and independent think tanks. Don't you think when Scowcroff, the son of the late President Eisenhower, William F. Buckley and John Dean express concern with Mr. Bush that something is very, very wrong with the workings of government?

Let's face it. Some people are blind when seeing the writing on the wall. Even this late in the game.

But I do understand what you say.

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grimreaper797

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 02:10 PM

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wanna know the truth, 90% of america doesnt even know. most of them arent even really aware of the wiretapping issue, let along anything along these lines.

truth is, when you come onto this site, you see alot of politically involved people. So you think "it must be any day now that people will outlash at these criminals (some say they arent but we dont know the whole truth so)" but i suggest you walk outside and make a survey of like 3 questions, then ask people who walk by you on the street (if you live in a city). and just see how many even know what your talking about, THEN actually care to have an opinion on it.

i bet if you do that your in for a big shock.

Jadette

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 04:19 PM

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What i'd like to know is what's changed since Nixon was president?

What troubled people then was his stance that the president is above and beyond the law. How is this any different? Isn't it clear that there's an agenda of this administration is enpowering the Executive Branch and the role of the president? Where's the outrage at the continued abuse of this office?

Oh, and I saw this bit on Cspan where Bush sr and his wife were talking to some assembly of people in Texas, and the topic of Clinton came up. Among many other interesting comments, Bush Sr said, with some disdain, that he and Clinton weren't as close as the press was seeming to make it.

ceci2006

posted on May, 8 2006 @ 10:07 PM

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It is clear that Mr. Bush is abusing the powers of the Executive Branch. But whether there are politicians strong enough to call him out on it is another matter. And for the people, they should be outraged that the Presidency is bordering on a dictatorship.

But like I said on another thread, I heard someone say once that in the sake of safety some citizens would most likely tolerate a fascist government.

grover

posted on May, 9 2006 @ 06:05 AM

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The Republican controlled congress certianly won't call bush out on this, or any of his other abuses, they are so morally compromised that the only way to make congress accountable again is to remove the whole lot of them, and as for the democrats, they don't have the backbone God gave jellyfish, and that comes from lifelong democrat and liberal.

dgtempe

posted on May, 9 2006 @ 06:19 AM

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"Quietly"? He has OBVIOUSLY broken as many laws as any criminal could brake, with more yet to come.

Nothing quiet about this Potus.

dgtempe

posted on May, 9 2006 @ 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by ceci2006
It is clear that Mr. Bush is abusing the powers of the Executive Branch. But whether there are politicians strong enough to call him out on it is another matter. And for the people, they should be outraged that the Presidency is bordering on a dictatorship.

But like I said on another thread, I heard someone say once that in the sake of safety some citizens would most likely tolerate a fascist government.

NOT THIS citizen!!!!

I get very upset on a daily basis , and the teeter-totering on a Dictatorship has me all but insane!
I've been around here for awhile, and i remember the put downs when i said this man was going to fancy himself a dictator.

Well..........

I left Cuba as a child (on an airplane)

because of a dictator. Now i'm up against another one.

Dont mind me. I'm just ranting. Thanks for your posts, Ceci. I enjoy reading them.

thermopolis

posted on May, 9 2006 @ 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by grover

It is not all current or former bush supporters snafu7700, but there are most certianly a fanatical branch of the Republican party that is unlike any group I have seen in the 30 plus years I have been voting and watching politics. I have said before and I will say again, there are plenty of good and decent conservatives and republicans out there that I can respect, even if I disagree with them, but the fanatics that have taken over the republican party are a beast of an entirely different color.

The problem with BUSH is that he has abandon his BASE and run towards the insane left agenda. That is what laws are being ignored, thos the left always chooses to ignore. Bush is a closet liberal and I do hope he is made to pay dearly for it...................

grover

posted on May, 9 2006 @ 02:17 PM

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Bush a closet liberal? Oh come now that is patently absurd. Bush is the most conservative, nay right wing president we have had. He is far to the right of both his father and Reagan and makes Nixon seem liberal. The delusions that you on the right have, thermopolis border on the psychotic.