posted on Oct, 25 2003 @ 10:56 AM
my grandfather is a staunch defender of social security and once when we had a "debate" about it he pretty much said that the government should take
care of our retirement/money, not ourselves. i was disturbed by this as i dont like having others decide forme what i can and cant do with my own
money as it pertains to retirement. now some of the context for this was he believes that politicians know how to "prepare" for our own retirement
than we do. i find this offensive as these same politicians give themselves raises and stow away their money earned through their jobs, both
governmental and private and put it in 401K accounts, stocks and bonds while we the average joe isnt allowed to do with our money as we see fit.
also i find that social security is something of a pyramid scheme. the only way they can continue to give checks is if more and more people pay into
it. how do they getmore people? which each generation the generations get larger. people are also not relying on social security and some dont want
to even pay into it at all because thats money taken from them to pay for someone elses retirement, not their own. moeny that could be applied to
their own retirement fund. its a socialist set up and the victims of this scam are getting tired of it and want to find better alternatives but find
it hard to do because if the government lets people invest their own money their own way intotheir own retirement funds every last retired person
right now would starve to death because the money would run out in a big damn hurry. you're paying for your grandparents and those of THEIR
generation, not your own. the problem i have with this is what if the system does collapse? there's no plan B's because we are expected to rely on
THIS system so a lot of people are going to be quite unhappy AND clueless as to what to do if and when it does collapse. i really believe that social
security WILL end in my lifetime and will be catostrophic to this country but it will also make people rely less on the government and more on
themselves.
dozer how much do you think america sends israel in aid every year? billions! america sends even more billions to other countries. while i
understand the sentiment would you prefer america simply walk away from iraq knowing full well that if we dont help them out after what we've done
we'll be villified even more in the middle east? spare me the "we shouldnt have been there anyway" remarks. thats a moot point. we're there and
we have to deal with it. would you have us just walk away yes or no?
hell we can get parasites off the welfare system and stop giving out money for things we really dont need like endowments for art. (anyone remember
the piss christ from years ago? thats right your tax money paid for that! a cross in a jar of urine and they called it art)
there are many ways to cut out waste but the BEST way to do it is to get rid of the politicians, tell these democrats and republicans we're tired of
it and start voting in independants and people from other party's (anyone but nader!) maybe then we'll have a better chance of cuttingout all the
waste but as long aspeople continue to believe the government should take care of them in every little way then we'll never be free of the curse of
the government. like a drug when you rely on it to get you through life it is hard to get rid of, it is there everywhere you go following you like a
shadow.