TRUMP Bond in Letita James Case Lowered by Appeals Court

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: matafuchs

Exactly.
Trump could have dropped a $100 bill out of his wallet and the left would get him for littering.
People are waking up.

56% of Americans see these cases as witch hunts.
That number is increasing.

Pretty much everyone sees them as witch hunts. Democrats know it's a witch hunt, they're just okay with it.

Trump hurt their feelings. This is "literally violence." They want him taken down by any means necessary, legal or not, Constitutional or not, moral or not, democratic or not.

Anything is justified in taking down someone who hurt their feelings.

Democrats want an authoritarian, one-party state like China has. They idolize the kind of control the Chinese communists have over their people. They've long admired China, they're just not bothering to hide it anymore.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: chr0naut

It is a bank, that manages the money of its customers and investors. The customers and investors are the ones who get 'stiffed' in fraud of this type.

The bank did their due diligence and approved the loan.
You’re saying the bank committed fraud as well. Got it. 👍

Well, that's hard to say. The bank officers could well have been complicit in the fraud, but they have plausible deniability. The valuers that the bank engaged were likely to have been complicit with the fraud, and the bank could be unaware that the valuers, or even specific officers of the bank, were crooked.

Phew LoL
That’s some mental gymnastics there buddy!
Well done.
Are you gassed now? You should be.

If there’s any crime here, it’s the bank loaning the money when they shouldn’t, thereby depriving their customers of loan proceeds.
That’s what you’re claiming now?

No, that completely ignores Trump as initiator and prime instigator of the fraud.

And Trump personally has been judged guilty in this case. It's done.

he was charged guilty before the first witness was called. The case, the judge, the AG, and you are all a joke.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut

American banks can borrow from other banks if needed. So there are no "loaned out" banks. Especially the big ones like in the Trump case.

And, the case is not over. No final rulings have been issued. 🤣🤣

You're speaking to someone who doesn't even understand the difference between wealth and cash.

Good luck getting him to understand the banking system.

originally posted by: matafuchs
I mean, you all talk about what a business loser he is

As several of them have demonstrated in these threads, they don't understand basic financial concepts well enough to be able to reason themselves whether he's a successful businessman or not.

They say he's a failure because that's what they've been told to think. That's all. Not a moment's thought went into it.

You can't change someone's mind if they didn't come to their conclusion themselves and they don't understand the concepts well enough to even debate it.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
Just came by to read the abysmal responses from our resident socialist sycophants. Not surprised in the slightest.

"Socialism is the gospel of envy, and the creed of ignorance."
-Winston Churchill

It's almost as if they WANT AND NEED to have our lives destroyed, our families ripped apart, our wealth redistributed, our sovereignty eliminated, our strength diminished, our judicial weaponized...

🤔..Oh, wait.....

The commies are upset. They wanted him to have to pay for 2 reasons:

1. He's rich.
2. He hurt their feelings.

And not necessarily in that order.

Some just cannot think after "hate that man DJT". They just can't. We see it here. I have no need for the evil one called Hillary Clinton, but I also don't waste my time on boards where they love her. IF they existed? I suppose I could go see.

a reply to: chr0naut

"the hate is strong in those one"

I have to wonder how long will you be able to survive hating people soooo much that you would ignore reality? Spewing false concepts just to spew hate. While all of you on evil's team prove nothing but a need to crush something. Good luck with that.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
Just came by to read the abysmal responses from our resident socialist sycophants. Not surprised in the slightest.

"Socialism is the gospel of envy, and the creed of ignorance."
-Winston Churchill

It's almost as if they WANT AND NEED to have our lives destroyed, our families ripped apart, our wealth redistributed, our sovereignty eliminated, our strength diminished, our judicial weaponized...

🤔..Oh, wait.....

The commies are upset. They wanted him to have to pay for 2 reasons:

1. He's rich.
2. He hurt their feelings.

And not necessarily in that order.

Some just cannot think after "hate that man DJT". They just can't. We see it here. I have no need for the evil one called Hillary Clinton, but I also don't waste my time on boards where they love her. IF they existed? I suppose I could go see.

There's still a handful of sycophants. They still believe Putin hacked the 2016 election and that's the only reason she lost, despite it being well-documented by even Democrat "journalists" that she lost because she ran an awful campaign and ignored the advice of successful men like Bill Clinton and James Carville.

How is it you don't see this as less money? That is just way beyond common sensical for me. How would you like to not get to appeal your case unless you can sell assets for the appeal? I am sure your handlers could help you if your a good boy.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Mahogani

He doesn't owe anybody anything until the case is over.

Right now it's not over, it's just starting. 🤣

Wrong.

He owes $175 million, in the next 10 days, if he wants to appeal. If he does not pay it in 10 days he owes the full $454m plus interest.

If he loses the appeal, he loses the $175 million plus everything else up to the full judgment.

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Mahogani

Thank you for a straight (no drama) factual answer.

Like John Gacey thanking Jeffrey Dahmer for his moral guidance.

Gacy and Dahmer actually had more morals than the Liberals do.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Mahogani

Thank you for a straight (no drama) factual answer.

Like John Gacey thanking Jeffrey Dahmer for his moral guidance.

Gacy and Dahmer actually had more morals than the Liberals do.

I heard Dahmer was eating Five Guys before it was cool.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
Just came by to read the abysmal responses from our resident socialist sycophants. Not surprised in the slightest.

"Socialism is the gospel of envy, and the creed of ignorance."
-Winston Churchill

It's almost as if they WANT AND NEED to have our lives destroyed, our families ripped apart, our wealth redistributed, our sovereignty eliminated, our strength diminished, our judicial weaponized...

🤔..Oh, wait.....

The commies are upset. They wanted him to have to pay for 2 reasons:

1. He's rich.
2. He hurt their feelings.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Oh...and the fun part of it all is...Trump ALSO just increased his net worth by another $3b to $4b!

Please explain how him selling companies to himself has increases their real value?

It's all funny-money again.

He sold his company to the public.
You don’t understand this ?

He retained 60% ownership, but he could still have purchased some of his shares anonymously through shell companies. As an investment it wasn't worth a fraction of what he is claiming.

That would be...fraud!

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Mahogani

Thank you for a straight (no drama) factual answer.

Like John Gacey thanking Jeffrey Dahmer for his moral guidance.

Gacy and Dahmer actually had more morals than the Liberals do.

I heard Dahmer was eating Five Guys before it was cool.

Angry Star.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: chr0naut

It is a bank, that manages the money of its customers and investors. The customers and investors are the ones who get 'stiffed' in fraud of this type.

The bank did their due diligence and approved the loan.
You’re saying the bank committed fraud as well. Got it. 👍

Well, that's hard to say. The bank officers could well have been complicit in the fraud, but they have plausible deniability. The valuers that the bank engaged were likely to have been complicit with the fraud, and the bank could be unaware that the valuers, or even specific officers of the bank, were crooked.

Phew LoL
That’s some mental gymnastics there buddy!
Well done.
Are you gassed now? You should be.

If there’s any crime here, it’s the bank loaning the money when they shouldn’t, thereby depriving their customers of loan proceeds.
That’s what you’re claiming now?

No, that completely ignores Trump as initiator and prime instigator of the fraud.

And Trump personally has been judged guilty in this case. It's done.

So, I’m guessing you don’t know this ….. Trump is “judged guilty” by literally, no schite, not kidding, no joke …… 2 people.

Both of whom have expressed publicly that they despise Trump. Said that they were going to get him.
Absolutely with body language and verbiage in the courtroom, telegraph their hate.

Apparently NY laws are somehow malleable to allow this.

You don’t have the wherewithal to admit that this is wrong ? If it somehow benefits your agenda / team, you just say “hahahahaha” ?

You don’t understand that this is wrong ?

You don’t know that rational people know this is wrong in any situation, regardless of anybody’s leanings ?

I really wish you would get honest on this. For your benefit.

a reply to: matafuchs

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That is all.

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: chr0naut

It is a bank, that manages the money of its customers and investors. The customers and investors are the ones who get 'stiffed' in fraud of this type.

The bank did their due diligence and approved the loan.
You’re saying the bank committed fraud as well. Got it. 👍

Well, that's hard to say. The bank officers could well have been complicit in the fraud, but they have plausible deniability. The valuers that the bank engaged were likely to have been complicit with the fraud, and the bank could be unaware that the valuers, or even specific officers of the bank, were crooked.

Phew LoL
That’s some mental gymnastics there buddy!
Well done.
Are you gassed now? You should be.

If there’s any crime here, it’s the bank loaning the money when they shouldn’t, thereby depriving their customers of loan proceeds.
That’s what you’re claiming now?

No, that completely ignores Trump as initiator and prime instigator of the fraud.

And Trump personally has been judged guilty in this case. It's done.

So, I’m guessing you don’t know this ….. Trump is “judged guilty” by literally, no schite, not kidding, no joke …… 2 people.

Both of whom have expressed publicly that they despise Trump. Said that they were going to get him.
Absolutely with body language and verbiage in the courtroom, telegraph their hate.

Apparently NY laws are somehow malleable to allow this.

You don’t have the wherewithal to admit that this is wrong ? If it somehow benefits your agenda / team, you just say “hahahahaha” ?

You don’t understand that this is wrong ?

You don’t know that rational people know this is wrong in any situation, regardless of anybody’s leanings ?

I really wish you would get honest on this. For your benefit.

And he is not even from this country.

Trump hurts his feelz all the way across the Pacific.

a reply to: RazorV66


The State of N.Y. is getting " Cold Feet " with All this Attention with Mr. Trump's Trial . It's Judicial System is currently being put under a Microscope Viewing all it's Flaws........



" Matthew Whitaker to Newsmax: N.Y. Courts Worried 'They Were Becoming a Joke' "


...."But, what's more important is, you have an absolute duty as a prosecutor to turn over, not only exculpatory information but, obviously, derogatory information about your own witnesses, for example, Michael Cohen. And so that's where this delay has come about."


"This case is so weak. It is based on a federal election campaign theory that both the Southern District of New York and the Federal Election Commission rejected, and so I just think this case, from all the cases that he faces right now, it is by far the weakest."




www.newsmax.com...

I'd say this is fairly simple to prove fraud you need a victim. Someone that his actions actually hurt. For Donald Trump there was no victim the people that actually loaned him the money admitted they made money and would be willing to work with him again in the future. Deutsche Bank testified on his behalf even stating they did their own calculations and Trumps property evaluations were not even considered.

In real estate when you are trying to get a loan you will attempt to show your property in the best light every bank knows this. Works exactly the same way when taking out a loan for a house. For example you bought a property you are not going to show the value based on tax assessment as they are always lower then property value. You are going to argue the property is worth this because other homes in the area sold for this. Problem is homes are rarely equivalent so it's always speculation.

Let's use Mar-a-Lago, the county gives Mar-a-Lago its current value for taxation of $37 million based on its annual net operating income as a club and not on its resale value as a home or its reconstruction cost. So this is not the value of the property it is based off its yearly income.the judge was to stupid to realize this but it is treated the same as rental income. Be like me buying a building with apartments the value is based on the rent I charge not the value if the property.

Real estate agents in Palm Beach have stated the value of the property anywhere from 600 million to 1.2 billion depending on who wants to aquire the property. This evaluation includes lots of factors such as property income the value of gold added to property and things like the historical value of thr property. Not to mention this is a former presidents home like it or not that adds value as well. I seriously doubt Trump would ever sell but if he did it would be for a huge sum.

a reply to: dragonridr

14 ACRES of Prime Exclusive Florida Real Estate .

a reply to: dragonridr

That’s funny because the insane Liberals consider it to be a dump and not worth anything.
That’s how much they hate Trump.