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originally posted by: Kenzo
Well look`s like Republicans are bragging " to end democracy "
Far-right influencer calls for ‘end of democracy’ at CPAC as Republicans downplay January 6
“They say democracy, but they mean authoritarianism, and they know it,” he said.
originally posted by: TheSingleBillie
originally posted by: Disgusted123
Just to clarify, and nuance is important.
"Several senior Democrats told The Atlantic they would not certify a Trump victory in November if the Supreme Court does not clearly rule on his eligibility."
They are tacitly saying only Democrats are fit to rule the US and if the American people and Supreme Court disagree, they will take the country anyway. Because they have implied quite strongly and openly, that only Democrats know what is best for the nation. Isn't that also correct?
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originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: theatreboy
B. We don NOT have a democracy, we are a republic.
Correct. Democrats keep saying we have a democracy. We do not.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all,"
Rather a moot point whether we're a democracy or republic anyway. Democrats no longer believe in either concept. They believe in a one-party authoritarian state like China has. That's what they're working towards. They want the common citizen to have no power and no say. Our betters will control everything.
originally posted by: Boomer1947
originally posted by: TheSingleBillie
originally posted by: Disgusted123
Just to clarify, and nuance is important.
"Several senior Democrats told The Atlantic they would not certify a Trump victory in November if the Supreme Court does not clearly rule on his eligibility."
They are tacitly saying only Democrats are fit to rule the US and if the American people and Supreme Court disagree, they will take the country anyway. Because they have implied quite strongly and openly, that only Democrats know what is best for the nation. Isn't that also correct?
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No, that's not correct. They are saying that Donald Trump in particular is not fit to rule, because he's an insurrectionist. If Nikki Haley or anyone else were the candidate, for example, this would not be an issue.
The charge in Trump's second impeachment was "incitement of insurrection". The House voted 232–197 that "Trump incited the attack on the Capitol in Washington, D.C. while Congress was convened to count the electoral votes and certify the victory of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris."
The Senate voted 57–43 to convict Trump of inciting insurrection falling short of the 2/3 majority needed for removal of office.
Both houses agreed by a simple majority vote that Trump committed insurrection, including members of the Republican Party in both houses.
Whether you agree with it or not, that's the argument--Congress already found Trump guilty of insurrection by a preponderance of evidence (which is the standard required in a civil case). That finding does not apply to any other human being on the planet.
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
a reply to: TheSingleBillie
Are you equally as disgusted by Trump hatching a plan to send fake electors to the capitol? Are you equally as disgusted by Trump stating he was going to suspend the constitution to stay in power?
You should be.
Show me one video or direct quote in context where he actually says he wants to suspend the constitution.
Here’s the entire post:
"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
originally posted by: Boomer1947
originally posted by: TheSingleBillie
originally posted by: Disgusted123
Just to clarify, and nuance is important.
"Several senior Democrats told The Atlantic they would not certify a Trump victory in November if the Supreme Court does not clearly rule on his eligibility."
They are tacitly saying only Democrats are fit to rule the US and if the American people and Supreme Court disagree, they will take the country anyway. Because they have implied quite strongly and openly, that only Democrats know what is best for the nation. Isn't that also correct?
.........
No, that's not correct. They are saying that Donald Trump in particular is not fit to rule, because he's an insurrectionist. If Nikki Haley or anyone else were the candidate, for example, this would not be an issue.
originally posted by: Allaroundya4k
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
What happens if Trump loses this time around?