A cargo plane is forced to land in Miami after an engine malfunction sends sparks flying midair

a reply to: quintessentone

And, again, your comfort isn’t Boeing’s decision. Boeing doesn’t care if you have an extra six inches of leg room or not. That’s strictly the airline’s province, and they would like to make money on those flights.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: quintessentone

And, again, your comfort isn’t Boeing’s decision. Boeing doesn’t care if you have an extra six inches of leg room or not. That’s strictly the airline’s province, and they would like to make money on those flights.

I repeat, not only do they make enough money but they make so much money as to have extra for millions and billions of dollars to be given out to legal settlements...there is a disconnect there.

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, there is. You don’t seem to get that Boeing has nothing to do with interiors beyond installing the one the customer orders.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, there is. You don’t seem to get that Boeing has nothing to do with interiors beyond installing the one the customer orders.

I told you above I understood that fact and we have gone off topic only due to the fact that it appears all those involved in manufacturing aircraft care nothing about our safety nor comfort because if you have ever viewed those plane crash test videos you will see that some seating parts become detached and start flying around the cabin virtually becoming potentially deadly shrapnel along with passenger effects.

Not all in-flight injuries result from a mistake made by someone who works for the airline. Sometimes the aircraft itself—or parts or equipment on the aircraft, like overhead bins or loading ramps—are defective.

If a passenger is injured by a defective aircraft or equipment, this may give rise to a product liability claim. For example, if a design defect causes an overhead bin latch to come loose mid-flight, a passenger injured by falling luggage may have a claim against the overhead bin manufacturer.

Accidents involving aircraft equipment might have several causes. For example, if a loading ramp manufacturer produces a ramp with an uneven surface that causes an elderly passenger to fall and sustain leg injuries, the passenger may have a product liability claim against the ramp manufacturer. However, if the airline maintenance crew should have noticed the problem and taken steps to protect passengers, the airline may be on the hook too (under a negligence theory of liability).

www.nolo.com...

I think negligence should extend to higher up's decision-making/choices of design, parts and equipment that have had a history of failure or a failure rate that should raise red flags along with ways and means for passengers to survive a crash - like parachute floating seats that can jettison people to hopefully safety away from the doomed plane. Is that too much to ask for?



Well someone is thinking of ways to save lives even though it has it's design flaws. I hope in the future safety concerns take precedence over padding exec's and shareholder's pockets.

a reply to: quintessentone

So you want a cabin that has explosives, for the airlines you say can’t even maintain regular aircraft safely, and parachutes so big and heavy that five people would be able to fly in each plane, because of weight restrictions.

Let’s just do away with anything that can hurt people, in the name of safety and comfort. We’ll just wrap the world in bubble wrap and keep people safe.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: quintessentone

So you want a cabin that has explosives, for the airlines you say can’t even maintain regular aircraft safely, and parachutes so big and heavy that five people would be able to fly in each plane, because of weight restrictions.

Let’s just do away with anything that can hurt people, in the name of safety and comfort. We’ll just wrap the world in bubble wrap and keep people safe.

Why can't it be pneumatic? Airline safety is not the world but why not redesign with safety first?

a reply to: quintessentone

Because that’s even more weight and more complexity. And how is it going to work, in either configuration, for the 90+% of accidents that take place on take off and landing, where there’s no time to deploy it?

Go look at actual safety numbers for the airlines over the last ten years, then come back and tell me how unsafe air travel already is. The last fatal commercial accident in the US was in 2009. Worldwide, in 2010 there were 943 fatalities. Since then, 2014 saw 692, and 2018 saw 561. Those two years were aberrations however, and the numbers have been low for years.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: quintessentone

Because that’s even more weight and more complexity. And how is it going to work, in either configuration, for the 90+% of accidents that take place on take off and landing, where there’s no time to deploy it?

Go look at actual safety numbers for the airlines over the last ten years, then come back and tell me how unsafe air travel already is. The last fatal commercial accident in the US was in 2009. Worldwide, in 2010 there were 943 fatalities. Since then, 2014 saw 692, and 2018 saw 561. Those two years were aberrations however, and the numbers have been low for years.

Take a look at the number of injuries passengers sustain yearly due to turbulence; the seats are not designed to protect passengers in any way in those situations.

a reply to: quintessentone

The vast majority of those passengers injured were not in their seats, or didn’t have their seatbelt properly fastened. It’s amazing how seats that aren’t designed to protect people protect 99% of the people in that same incident.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: quintessentone

The vast majority of those passengers injured were not in their seats, or didn’t have their seatbelt properly fastened. It’s amazing how seats that aren’t designed to protect people protect 99% of the people in that same incident.

From the article below there is no clear cut data that shows the reality of the percentage of non-severe injury only serious injuries which by law need to be reported, so of course you will end up with a low percentage.

www.afar.com...

a reply to: quintessentone

Of course you will. Because everyone in the plane was injured, they just don’t report it. We should just stop flying completely since it’s not 100% safe. In fact let’s just get rid of everything that isn’t 100% safe. Then everyone will be safe no matter what they do.