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IDF sniper kills 2 women inside Gaza church, according to Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem

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posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: gortex



It's like conservative media with anything Biden. Nothing but demonization and blame placing.


Just curious why you would even say something like this in your post about this subject. An overwhelming need to push your political perspective?

I could say the same about liberal media and Trump, the statement would be just as true. This is not a part of the discussion.
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posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: nugget1
Reading news coverage on this war reminds me inlaws envolving themselves in the marital problems of their children. What is 'true' depends on which side of the family you're on.

I'm just going to sit back and watch it all play out, rather than aide the conflict by adding emotional energy. Collective consciousness has a whole lot more power than people realize, and that power comes from getting emotionally involved. Don't give your power away, folks!


Alternatively, if our collective consciousness is calling for a ceasefire then give your power away in droves, folks.


Hamas has never abided by a ceasefire. They use the time to regroup and rearm, then strike to kill again. Why would anybody want to assist in their warped religious ideology?

As with fights between couples, those not involved need to mind their own business and let the two parties figure it out. Getting involved only makes things far worse.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani

I've never seen a war "micro-managed" before.





You must have been a grunt then, ever seen the inside of a TOC?



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani

I've never seen a war "micro-managed" before.





You must have been a grunt then, ever seen the inside of a TOC?


Oh gee, and you wonder why we lost in Afghanistan.

Derp.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani

I've never seen a war "micro-managed" before.





You must have been a grunt then, ever seen the inside of a TOC?


Oh gee, and you wonder why we lost in Afghanistan.

Derp.


I'll take that as a no, you haven't worked inside a TOC. That is why you would think there is no "micro-management" in war.

EVERYTHING is known, everything is micro managed.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani

I've never seen a war "micro-managed" before.





You must have been a grunt then, ever seen the inside of a TOC?


Oh gee, and you wonder why we lost in Afghanistan.

Derp.


I'll take that as a no, you haven't worked inside a TOC. That is why you would think there is no "micro-management" in war.

EVERYTHING is known, everything is micro managed.


Gurl, I was a REMF, straight up.

In and out of Kabul, I was just a tech guy.

You want to share hero stories, go right ahead.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani

I've never seen a war "micro-managed" before.





You must have been a grunt then, ever seen the inside of a TOC?


Oh gee, and you wonder why we lost in Afghanistan.

Derp.


I'll take that as a no, you haven't worked inside a TOC. That is why you would think there is no "micro-management" in war.

EVERYTHING is known, everything is micro managed.


Gurl, I was a REMF, straight up.

In and out of Kabul, I was just a tech guy.

You want to share hero stories, go right ahead.


Sure, as you guys won't see me for a while and this is one of my last posts, I'll give a last tiny bit of info.

I started out with MPs, then I was with an elite airborne division, not gonna say which one, and I finished with 3 tours with SOCCE, not gonna say which SF group. I've spent nearly as much time inside a TOC as I did out in the field.

Wars are micromanaged as nothing else is.

Take it easy, DB.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: Mahogani

Bite me, Sarge.



Thanks coming from an O4.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Mahogani

so HAMAS are the good guys and we should kill all the joos, is that what this is about?


If you say so. Nobody else said it but you.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 08:29 PM
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These communist kibbutznick will kill their own,
as we have seen, over and over.
including scores of journalists, constantly
sniped out on PURPOSE.
Dead can not talk, 'zionist' do not want
any witnesses to their crimes.

Quote >
israeli Council Says israel should "Make Gaza Look Like Auschwitz"
According to The Jerusalem Post
it was said :
"Gaza should resemble the Auschwitz concentration camp,” Azoulai said.
news.antiwar.com...

Pope Francis says israel=terrorist
"It is terrorism” he said.
After IDF Murders 2 Women at Catholic Church in Gaza
“No warning was given, no notification was provided. They were
shot in cold blood inside the premises of the parish,
where there are no belligerents,” the patriarchate said.
news.antiwar.com...

Netanyahu Says He’s ‘Proud’ of Preventing a Palestinian State
news.antiwar.com...

Israeli bulldozing Gaza cemeteries
www.middleeasteye.net...


israel bulldozes gaza tents buries alive dozens
www.newarab.com...

israeli troops looting (same old, same old, no surprise there)
www.middleeasteye.net...

Eyewitness testimony
Video footage aired by the Qatar-based news network showed
numerous covered bodies piled in one of the school’s classrooms.
There is no sign of any missiles or shells.
“All those who were in the buildings were executed
from point-blank. The Israeli soldiers opened fire on them.
“The Israeli soldiers came in and opened fire on them,”
one unidentified witness said.
“They took all men, then entered classrooms then
opened fire on a woman and all the children with her,” including “newborn children.”
“The Israeli soldiers executed those innocent families point-blank,” she added.
www.vtforeignpolicy.com... mpaign=witnesses-say-idf-troops-executed-women-and-children-in-gaza-school



originally posted by: FlyersFan
You do realize that they ('zionists') are the constant victims


^^ 'victims' REALLY ?. . . Polly want a cracker ?


teacher cries 'anti-semitism' all while
threatening to decapitate an eleven year old girl.
nypost.com...


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edit on 17-12-2023 by ToneD because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: Topcraft

Equal opportunity.

Don't like when CNN does it.
Don't like when NY Post does it.

My agenda is not consider theirs, and point that out as I go.

Also a bit for integrity. Because the day prior I ripped apart a far right wing news outlet for the same reason.

I thought it was a good analogy

CNN reporting on this as they did is equal to how a conservative media outlet reports on anything Biden does.

They both look for the angle to appeal to a polarized demographic, or not acknowledge news that's inconvenient.

ETA:

I really don't need anything to tell me Israel has to walk on eggshells on a tiny piece of land surrounded by a religiously opposed neighbors that never wanted them there.

My fiercely pro-Israel matriarchal-minded 60's feminist 'hippie' psychology major mother ingrained that into me.
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posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by
egradation33[
a tiny piece of land surrounded by religious opposed enemy that honestly don't want them there.


So is the Christian (tiny) areas
surrounded by jews > who want to destroy the Churches,
spit and eradicate, even want to kill them.
victims ? hardly, Polly ant a cracker ?
. . . racist 'supremacists' are just disgusting racists supremacists NOT 'victims'

Netanahu wants the cake ALL to himself
news.antiwar.com...

Israel "Should Make Gaza Look Like Auschwitz"
news.antiwar.com...

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posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 11:57 PM
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a reply to: ToneD

Well, if Hamas wants peace why did they attack Israel? Sounds like they bit off more than they can chew this time.

As far as I know it was the nazi’s ( good Christians one and all ) who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW2, so I would guess that Jewish people have a right to dislike the Christians in the area, that side with Hamas.

Truthfully, as a Christian I believe that anyone who supports Hamas cannot call himself a Christian. Also anyone who tries to justify any brutality from the IDF is not a Christian. Personally I doubt the information in your links is truthful, Hamas kills innocent civilians and blames it on the IDF for the shock value.



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: Mahogani

When people like that poster tries to dumb it down like that, they are asking for us to fit inside a box where they can take potshots at our position.

And yet here we are, two extreme opposites on the political spectrum in agreement that the wholesale slaughter of everyone, including Jewish hostages by their own people, should stop.

We realize that if you hold the safety of innocent Israelis as your top priority (as they do), then you would also stop this slaughter.

But they are too stupid to realize that the tide can, and will turn.

That's when they will make the argument to stop the slaughter but it will be too late as they have encouraged it when the shoe is on the other foot.

These people used to have more balanced viewpoints before TPTB allowed this situation to unfold and so triggered what can only be described as the latest derangement syndrome to rear its ugly head.

Now there's no difference between them (BAMN) and those they held in utter contempt for almost a decade now.

It would be laughably stupid if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 07:47 AM
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Israel says they didn't do it. Their operational review says it wasn't them.

So you have two choices

- An Israeli IDF played sniper and did it, and Israel is lying to cover. Israel took responsibility for the three dead hostages so they have admitted to screwups before. But they could be lying about this.

- The Patriarch of Jerusalem is lying for Hamas again and if anyone really was killed, it was by Hamas gunfire and they are just blaming the Jews - which also has happened before.

We will never know for sure.

Times of Israel



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Cmon..

Next you will be sticking up for the deliberate Israeli ariel bombing of the US liberty. Bombed it for hours.Nearly 40 good men died that day.

That was no mistake. Lets see you stick up for that..





posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33




I really don't need anything to tell me Israel has to walk on eggshells on a tiny piece of land surrounded by a religiously opposed neighbors that never wanted them there.


Is that an invitation for me to and invade your house. Make you live in the garbage and restrict your intake of goods. services and information..

Say anything and will toss a white phosphorus grenade your way..





The United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has expressly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israeli military occupation, including through armed struggle.



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

Since when has the f*cking VERY PRO-MUSLIM UN been an objective party? Think there is even more UN Muslim sympathy now.

And as long as you acknowledge it's Israel's house, I don't care what analogy you use.
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33

Hold down with your tripe. A am not pro muslim . I am anti bull#
Dont try and straw man we either..

Answer the question or trot on




is that an invitation for me to and invade your house. Make you live in the garbage and restrict your intake of goods. services and information.. Say anything and will toss a white phosphorus grenade your way



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

You may not be, but the UNGA certainly is. That's what my UN comment was about. I do not respect ANYTHING the UNGA has to say about Israel. They are merely a window into global antisemitic consensus.

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