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Island sized UFO seen by Navy - Terry Verts interviews Elizando

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posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 04:32 AM
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Terry Verts interviews Lou Elizondo

Some very interesting info. Pilots, radar operators brought in to brief top Pentagon on incidents. Navy captains upset because they repeatedly having to keeping crew below decks because things flying around.

Navy report:

Regular scheduled missile tests. Navy fires it out, flies until out of fuel, it falls into the ocean in the Puerto Rico Trench and Navy recovers it.

One month helicopter flies out, gets the missile, as they are lifting off a huge, black, island sized ufo rises under them coming towards surface. They leave taking missile with them.

Next months test, they fly out. Frogman goes down rope to hook on the missile. Ufo quickly rises up. Helicopter flees in emergency assent, frogman trying to climb back up rope. Missile is sucked down never to be seen again.

50’s & 60’s also had military reports of tic tacks. Called flying butane tanks, lozenges in different eras. Continually reported - not new.

Much more in interview.

We have data from multiple integrated systems recording these things. Lots of incidents spanning decades. Lots of military personnel brought in to brief Pentagon. This cannot be understated. We have concrete data and military personnel briefing top level government on these incidents. Not hillbillies seeing lights in sky. Concrete data and reliable info.


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posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: pianopraze


Terry Verts interviews Lou Elizondo

Some very interesting info. Pilots, radar operators brought in to brief top Pentagon on incidents. Navy captains upset because they repeatedly having to keeping crew below decks because things flying around.

Navy report:

Regular scheduled missile tests. Navy fires it out, flies until out of fuel, it falls into the ocean in the Puerto Rico Trench and Navy recovers it.

One month helicopter flies out, gets the missile, as they are lifting off a huge, black, island sized ufo rises under them coming towards surface. They leave taking missile with them.

Next months test, they fly out. Frogman goes down rope to hook on the missile. Ufo quickly rises up. Helicopter flees in emergency assent, frogman trying to climb back up rope. Missile is sucked down never to be seen again.

50’s & 60’s also had military reports of tic tacks. Called flying butane tanks, lozenges in different eras. Continually reported - not new.

Much more in interview.

We have data from multiple integrated systems recording these things. Lots of incidents spanning decades. Lots of military personnel brought in to brief Pentagon. This cannot be understated. We have concrete data and military personnel briefing top level government on these incidents. Not hillbillies seeing lights in sky. Concrete data and reliable info.



What kind of UFO was it?
Cigar shape? Disc? Triangular?



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

How big is an island? Somewhere between a foot and Greenland? That is not very descriptive.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

What's the point on doing an interview when he states several times " I don't want to go into to much detail because the person want's privacy "

Makes me suspicious.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

The strategy of the Alien Agenda, as it is called, seems fairly simple: If the earthlings won't allow themselves to accept the obvious, we'll attend to our business an they can "eat cake."

UFOs are no mystery to open-minded people. True, it is a horror that many cannot and will not accept until the intruders come knocking for dinner, but don't blame the ETs, they didn't appear with ray guns ablazing did they? The fault lays completely with within our cultures, societies, governments, and especially these days, science itself for ignoring the obvious fact that we simply could not own the universe alone.

Anybody have an idea of why I can't post in the Tucker thread?



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: CosmicFocus
a reply to: pianopraze


Anybody have an idea of why I can't post in the Tucker thread?



Thread was closed by Argentus as there's already an ongoing thread on the same subject. See his post...

www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 07:06 AM
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We have data from multiple integrated systems recording these things. Lots of incidents spanning decades. Lots of military personnel brought in to brief Pentagon. This cannot be understated. We have concrete data and military personnel briefing top level government on these incidents. Not hillbillies seeing lights in sky. Concrete data and reliable info.


On May 4, 2018 I and several others saw our 1st UFO's in South Carolina over the Georgia border. They also have returned in later years. My research led me to Robert Lazar and his 1989 videos of Area 51 as he filmed craft in the desert. Those craft over Area 51 performed the same radical manuevors as we witnessed by over [8] UFO's in 2018. Especially the stop start and incredible zig zags. Thats many years of IMO reversed ET technology.

I aint no hillbilly. I was in senior management in manufacturing for decades and hold degrees in engineering and an MBA from a top 50 ranked university. Companies include General Motors, Air Products & Chemicals and HARSCO.

I reported same on NUFORC and sent my video to The Black Vault. I was also interviewed on WTAM AM Cleveland with Mike Trivisonno and Michael Lee Hill on what he filmed over lake Erie near Cleveland. Hill was trashed by many. So was Lazer. This is so way over the threshold the FEDS dont want to hear from citizens as its already way above that.

YES the ET's are among us. IMO many of their allies masquerade as members here on ATS to debunk any and all factual evidence.
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posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 07:38 AM
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Just for fun. Banba Vanga said they are coming this year.


Does stupid is as stupid does apply here?



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 12:21 PM
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Some interesting things brought up here but I personally cannot stand when people like this want to always take a step back and re-explain for the uptheenth freakin time something obvious. I think they like to hear themselves talk sometimes.

Verts kept trying to butt in with nothing really to add and Elizondo kept waffling on about things before getting back to a point made minutes earlier. Enough with the pleasantries, platitudes and arse kissing too, just informatively speak like Grusch did in the Tucker Carlson interview.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: pianopraze

So those divers got the bends?



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: pianopraze
We have data from multiple integrated systems recording these things. Lots of incidents spanning decades. Lots of military personnel brought in to brief Pentagon. This cannot be understated. We have concrete data and military personnel briefing top level government on these incidents. Not hillbillies seeing lights in sky. Concrete data and reliable info.
Where is the concrete data?

Luis Elizondo is not a reliable source. He said there were photos of the UFOs over Washington DC. There weren't. As far as I know the only UFO that was identified was a strange reflection of a steamship sailing up the river due to unusual atmospheric conditions causing movements of surface objects to apparently be reflected from a thermal inversion layer in the sky. So of course there's no photo of the steam ship flying, it wasn't flying, it only looked that way to radar operators.

Luis claimed he ran AATIP, but if he did he's completely overstated the program, which we now know had zero budget. The Pentagon spokesperson denied Luis Elizondo had any AATIP responsibilities. It was the AAWSAP program before Elizondo run by Lacatski that was funded.

Elizondo was in counter-intelligence for 20 years, which one of the duties of that role is professional bull#ter. Given all his dubious claims, some of which the pentagon explicitly denies concerning what Elizondo actually did or didn't do, some have wondered if he actually did retire or if he might still be on some government payroll to spread misinformation or disinformation.

I certainly didn't find him to be credible at all when he tried to explain how the "gofast" ufo was "going fast", even though the data right on the video shows it's not going fast. So I'm not sure why anyybody finds Elizondo credible as a source. Anybody can prove for themselves what Elizondo says about the gofast video is not true just by doing a little trig from the numbers displayed on the video!

The following video covers some of the lies that have been promulgated and Elizondo is knee deep in this, what looks like a disinformation operation, the type of thing an counter-intel agent with 20 years experience would be very familiar with.

The UFO Lie: Shocking truth of Pentagon AAWSAP program | The Basement Office


Everything you were told is wrong. In 2017, the New York Times released a bombshell story revealing AATIP, the Pentagon's "UFO program" and Lue Elizondo, the director of that program. It proclaimed a shocking truth: UFOs are real. Since then, that story has been reprinted hundreds and thousands of times across the world and Mr. Elizondo has reached the status of cultural icon. But we've since learned that the whole story... was wrong.



Regarding the island-sized underwater thing, wouldn't it be a USO or unidentified submersible object, rather than a UFO or unidentified flying object?



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 03:58 PM
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At this point it’s just words. Most of us here who believe don’t really need these gas bags dripping out bits of nothing much week by week. We have believed for years. It’s time now for the full truth and some actual real evidence, to even meet our visitors or planetary neighbours. It’s time for a change in our history and outlook.

More words and believe me bro leakers are not what we need. 99% of the population couldn’t give less of a crap.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: pianopraze

The most intriguing recent events get ignored in all these interviews and studies and reports.

FOUR UFO's WERE SHOT DOWN earlier this year by the US and by Canada.

Where is the video? Are "they" now mad? Huge uptick in official UFO revelations after these 4 shoot-downs.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: pianopraze

The most intriguing recent events get ignored in all these interviews and studies and reports.

FOUR UFO's WERE SHOT DOWN earlier this year by the US and by Canada.

Where is the video?
Still classified, as far as anybody knows. Too embarrassing to release since apparently the US spent nearly a million dollars on two sidewinders to shoot down a harmless ham radio balloon, and another nearly half-million dollar sidewinder to shoot down a Chinese balloon that was alleged to be a spy balloon as covered here and here for two of the four. That was also too embarrassing, as the remains of the "spy"balloon were recovered, and Mark Milley said it wasn't spying after all.



Are "they" now mad?

I don't know anything about the other two except what was in the news. But yes, if either one was an alien space ship, the aliens could be mad right now, and sending a fleet our way to exterminate the human threat on this planet that destroyed their craft for no reason. I don't think we should be pissing off species that have interstellar travel technology. I doubt we stand a chance against a species that advanced.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: Waterglass

A lot of the pilots/military that have swept forward have said they are seeing ufo/UAP over South Carolina all the time.

At least over the airspace out at sea by South Carolina.

So very believable at this point.



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originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: pianopraze

The most intriguing recent events get ignored in all these interviews and studies and reports.

FOUR UFO's WERE SHOT DOWN earlier this year by the US and by Canada.

Where is the video? Are "they" now mad? Huge uptick in official UFO revelations after these 4 shoot-downs.


I’m seeing A LOT of info on this including pictures on #ufotwitter - but I’m not posting here to ats as it’s not reached a credibility level I’m comfortable with posting. I’ve seen a video of the Canada one falling down and a picture of the crashed artic one but it doesn’t have a scratch on it. It’s a flying butane tank with a window on the bottom center side. But… not sure I believe either accounts.

One account I do believe is there was a long standing stratospheric research ballon over… Michigan/Great Lakes? I forget exactly which. Apparently they shot it down and the researchers are pissed.
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posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

can anybody say another UFO charlatan seeking fame and fortune from the pockets and the gullible i want to blevber's.
i knew he was the firsst time i saw one of his phony ass reports. or his history channel show where he never proved or a damn thing.

i have no doubt that there is life on other planets, and that they are coming to earth for what ever reason.
but those that spew bullsh@@, and never produce any cold hard evidence other than hear say and speculation do nothing but muddy the waters for the real truth.


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posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: BernnieJGato
i have no doubt that there is life on other planets, and that they are coming to earth for what ever reason.
but those that spew bullsh@@, and never produce any cold hard evidence other than hear say and speculation do nothing but muddy the waters for the real truth.
Some people have wondered if that's Elizondo's new job since he "retired" (if he actually retired, since he still seems to be doing some work for the government in some capacity after his supposed retirement), to muddy the waters for the real truth.



posted on Dec, 16 2023 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: WeMustCare

I had no idea that the object shot down over the Yukon was actually the 23rd recorded object over north america of the year and it was only February.



posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: BernnieJGato

Sorry Bernie but these "mouths" are approved to speak on behalf on the USA. Thats what I was told by my FED contact who worked for decades for UNCLE.

I also asked for his take on David Grusch and others. He watched the 1st released video of David over a dozen times and he began to see a pattern and said that he was given a script to read by Uncle Sams boys

Just keep an open mind. Keep your mind out of the toilet bowl, closets and transsexual porn magazines!

You will be good.



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posted on Dec, 17 2023 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: BernnieJGato

First time looking at the guy before listening gave me a gut feeling he’s a bullsh1t artist. How do people expect to be believable with unkempt style. Then I listened to what he’s saying and it confirmed my bias.



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