Gaza Conflict: Is the Ben Gurion Canal Project a Factor?

This ambitious project aims to chart a course from
the Red Sea to the Mediterranean.
The Ben Gurion Canal, if completed, would challenge
the supremacy of the Suez Canal

Gaza Conflict: Is the Ben Gurion Canal Project a Factor?

Ben Gurion Canal Project
wiki >
en.wikipedia.org...

Could the current conflict been planned ?

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a reply to: ToneD

That project has been around for a very long time and the cost and problems to build it seem too great to me.

Some say 'follow the money'. When this conflict ends let's see what Netanyahu has in mind.

Did you know there exists a pipeline in the exact location (at least it looks that way on the wiki map) where the proposed canal would have been?

en.wikipedia.org...

Then there is talk of an oil reserve in Gaza.

ETA about Gaza's oil: (The source claims to be independent)

But while bombs rain down, business continues as usual, with Israel granting 12 licences to six companies to explore for natural gas off the country's Mediterranean coast on October 30th. This is the latest venture to exploit one of several gas fields discovered on the Mediterranean coast over recent decades, aiming to solve Israel’s energy dependency and, crucially, Europe’s supplies.

The total oil and gas reserves were valued at a staggering $524 billion in 2019. But Israel does not have sole legal entitlement to the $524 billion, according to a UN report published in the same year. Not only is some of the $524 billion sourced from within the Occupied Territory of Palestine, much of the rest sits outside national borders in the deep sea, and thus should be shared with all relevant parties. The report questions the national right to these resources given they took millions of years to form—and that Palestinians occupied the whole territory until Israel’s recent formal creation.

www.planetcritical.com...

a reply to: ToneD

How could it be? The maps in your link show the planned canal is north of the Gaza Strip. It does not cross or touch Gaza.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: ToneD

How could it be? The maps in your link show the planned canal is north of the Gaza Strip. It does not cross or touch Gaza.

Imagine the money and time they would save if it was built right through Gaza.

youtu.be...

There has been talk of nuks from the israeli side,
Two birds one stone ?
'nuking gaza = canal' ?

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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: ToneD

How could it be? The maps in your link show the planned canal is north of the Gaza Strip. It does not cross or touch Gaza.

Imagine the money and time they would save if it was built right through Gaza.

One more reason Egypt is so reluctant to accept Palestinian refugees from Gaza, perhaps?


Egypt realizes that once the refugees are cleared out of Gaza, Israel would be in a better position to build this canal and compete for the shipping now constrained to the Egyptian-controlled Suez Canal.

And, exercising it's considerable influence within the West, could swing much of that lucrative freight away from the Suez; a massive blow to Egypt's economy.


How "convenient" it seemed that Israel's vaunted intelligence community "missed" picking up the signs of the 10/07 attack........

originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: ToneD

How could it be? The maps in your link show the planned canal is north of the Gaza Strip. It does not cross or touch Gaza.

Imagine the money and time they would save if it was built right through Gaza.

One more reason Egypt is so reluctant to accept Palestinian refugees from Gaza, perhaps?


Egypt realizes that once the refugees are cleared out of Gaza, Israel would be in a better position to build this canal and compete for the shipping now constrained to the Egyptian-controlled Suez Canal.

And, exercising it's considerable influence within the West, could swing much of that lucrative freight away from the Suez; a massive blow to Egypt's economy.


How "convenient" it seemed that Israel's vaunted intelligence community "missed" picking up the signs of the 10/07 attack........

It might be wiser to drill the oil first then do a joint canal building project with Egypt and share the spoils, so to speak.

Supposedly the oil reserve extends to a point offshore of Gaza where it has to be shared with the neighbors, that includes Egypt.

Money and power are King.

a reply to: quintessentone

Again, according to the maps in the op link, it probably would cost more. The topo maps seem to indicate the plan follows a lowland area North of Gaza. Less land to excavate out but a little longer can save a lot of money and time.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: quintessentone

Again, according to the maps in the op link, it probably would cost more. The topo maps seem to indicate the plan follows a lowland area North of Gaza. Less land to excavate out but a little longer can save a lot of money and time.

The wiki source provides a map with an elevation legend and it looks like the same elevation.

a reply to: quintessentone

Undeveloped oil and natural gas reserves might prove to be something of a "white elephant", even by the time they could be brought on line, given the number, and scope, of various "Green Initiatives" around the world.

Especially in Europe and the US.


Securing the "Supply Chain", as shown with the major world-wide economic impact from the pandemic disruption, is, and will always be, of vital strategic importance.


"Money and Power are King", after all.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: quintessentone

Undeveloped oil and natural gas reserves might prove to be something of a "white elephant", even by the time they could be brought on line, given the number, and scope, of various "Green Initiatives" around the world.

Especially in Europe and the US.


Securing the "Supply Chain", as shown with the major world-wide economic impact from the pandemic disruption, is, and will always be, of vital strategic importance.


"Money and Power are King", after all.

Whether oil and gas production will slow or continue business-as-usual can't be realized yet.

www3.weforum.org...

a reply to: ToneD

next somebodies gonna claim that Israel will

pave gaza strip
put in a shipping port

ohh bop bop bop
ohh bop bop bop

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: ToneD

next somebodies gonna claim that Israel will

pave gaza strip
put in a shipping port

ohh bop bop bop
ohh bop bop bop

I did read mention of beach front property becoming available.

originally posted by: ToneD

youtu.be...

There has been talk of nuks from the israeli side,
Two birds one stone ?
'nuking gaza = canal' ?

“Drop a Nuclear Bomb on Gaza”: Israeli Minister Says Using Nukes on Gaza an Option
www.globalresearch.ca...

Coincidence ? Related perhaps ?

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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: quintessentone

Undeveloped oil and natural gas reserves might prove to be something of a "white elephant", even by the time they could be brought on line, given the number, and scope, of various "Green Initiatives" around the world.

Especially in Europe and the US.


Securing the "Supply Chain", as shown with the major world-wide economic impact from the pandemic disruption, is, and will always be, of vital strategic importance.


"Money and Power are King", after all.

a reply to: ToneD

From what I'm reading, Israel never said they have nukes, never tested nukes, and that jr. minister that's been suspended only threatened to use nukes as a hypothetical option. But Russia is asking questions now.

www.reuters.com...#:~:text=Israel%20does%20not%20publicly%20ac knowledge,the%20presence%20of%20nuclear%20weapons%3F%22

I suppose since they buy their weapons from the U.S. why not nukes too?

YOU have your doubts?


..i doubt it.

but yeah....i am thinking a bezos and co gettin some dat actiaon.
a reply to: BernnieJGato

www.reddit.com...
is intersting

a reply to: ToneD

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: ToneD

From what I'm reading, Israel never said they have nukes, never tested nukes, and that jr. minister that's been suspended only threatened to use nukes as a hypothetical option. But Russia is asking questions now.

www.reuters.com...#:~:text=Israel%20does%20not%20publicly%20ac knowledge,the%20presence%20of%20nuclear%20weapons%3F%22

I suppose since they buy their weapons from the U.S. why not nukes too?

Israel is suspected of having up to a few hundred nuclear warheads in its stockpile.


As to never having tested a nuclear weapon (vital to the development of a working device), you might want to follow-up on the "Vela Incident" in 1979.

a reply to: ToneD

As a Christian who simply cannot wait for the death and destruction the Good Book promise will happen, I say who are we to refuse them a tidy mountain of shekels?

They are the favorite people of my god even though they reject his son which unfortunately books them a trip to the Gaza of the underworld.


Look, it's complicated okay?


Shiksa!