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Has Trump warped Evangelicals or have Evangelicals created Trump ?

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posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: nickyw

originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: WolfPants

no such thing as either a moderate or centrist the extreme end of liberalism is a merger of capitalism/socialism and a return to slavery/serfdom.. we saw that when liberalism died in the 1920s with Nazism, fascism and Stalinism opportunistically taking liberalism to its natural conclusion..
Then what do you call Scandinavian governments then ? Are the failures too ?


thank you for supporting my statement.. especially good that you think the following is something of a success..

Eradication of "deviants": the dark side of the Swedish Model."



The world was shocked by the recent news of a skeleton in Swedens closet, the countrys forced sterilization policy of disabled people and others who were not found to be worthy to have children. The facts are clear, there is no reason to question the authencity of the sterilization records. Sources other than Dagens Nyheter, the nation’s largest daily newspaper that recently started the sterilization discussion, as well as researchers are confirming the facts. Also, Sweden is famous for its comprehensive statistics.

Thus, all sterilizations records and "patient" journals are archived and available to researchers and journalists. Persons who were sterilized against their will have come out of their silence and appeared in the media. The sterilizations were fully legal according to the laws of the time.

There were well-developed and state-regulated routines with medical experts at the local and national level, the Ministry of Health and Welfare, with a panel of highly placed representatives of political parties (mainly female Social Democrats including an ambassador to the United Nations) who signed the decisions that would deprive tens of thousands of persons of one of the most basic human rights, the right to have children.


its why as countries the Nordics are being exceptionally careful with puberty blockers as they won't want to repeat the past and sterilise yet more generations of youngsters .
Yes , all countries have past horrors , but Swedes aren’t running around with MSGA hats as they attack the Riksdag
edit on 29-9-2023 by WolfPants because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants

So don't vote. You won't have anything to feel sinful about.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants

As someone posted what they paid for peaches, it wont take much longer and people will have much bigger worries than transexualism.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants
Democracy?




posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: WolfPants


I too believe once the right has a firm authoritarian hold they’ll start restricting guns and talking them away. Who knows how long it will take but it will happen, no doubt.

Hilarious to me posters here are actually whining that the left made evangelicals love trump. Constant whining.

Evangelical have always been warped. They’ve never been about the teaching of Christ - Trump fits right in.
It’s unbelievable how many people buy into the fake Christian schtick of Trump , but then again have you ever looked at the pastors of the evangelicals ? Kat Kerr & Greg Locke types are everywhere & their brand of Christianity has millions of followers.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: WolfPants

So don't vote. You won't have anything to feel sinful about.
I don’t vote



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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A few things missing from your OP.

Freedom, individual rights, and the US Constitution.

It's a common thing when the left tries to talk politics, especially when used in a religious debate.

People have the right the believe what they want as long as those beliefs do not infringe upon the rights of others.
edit on 29-9-2023 by DBCowboy because: Boomer



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants

Curious why you would post a politics thread then. Trying to pursuade others when you don't play the game yourself?



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: WolfPants

no such thing as either a moderate or centrist the extreme end of liberalism is a merger of capitalism/socialism and a return to slavery/serfdom.. we saw that when liberalism died in the 1920s with Nazism, fascism and Stalinism opportunistically taking liberalism to its natural conclusion..
Then what do you call Scandinavian governments then ? Are the failures too ?


Let me get this straight. You are opposed to MAGA because you see it as a throwback to when the system was only working for white men, and then you point to other white countries on how things should be run. Lefties...it's like they don't even listen to what they themselves say, let alone their political opponents.
Your argument makes zero sense . Did Scandinavian countries have black slaves ? Did Scandinavian counties not allow blacks to vote 58 years ago ? Did Scandinavians create reservations for indigenous peoples ?


Scandinavians took part in the slave trade. Slavery is apart of their history. This has to be a troll thread.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: BernnieJGato

I'd say MOST beer drinkers and hell raisers.

Get out of the blue cities, and you'd be surprised.

Even blue cities are starting to figure it out.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: highvein

What country didn't let blacks vote 58 years ago?



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: highvein

What country didn't let blacks vote 58 years ago?



I don't know. Black people could vote in the U.S. well before 58 years ago.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: highvein

S0 sorry, responded to the wrong post.




posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants

Name the country that didn't let blacks vote 58 years ago....

No Native American has ever been forced to reside on a reservation. I can speak as NA, we werent the angelic innocents the left paints us to be. And at one point outnumbered the newcomers and killed many. And killed each other by the score as well.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: WolfPants

I'm on page 2 of this thread on Conspiracy in Religion Forum.

Not a single thing about religion from responders. Just all politics.

Maybe Evangelical Christianity is just politics. Religion of politics. How to govern and regulate others in the World.

Complete Worldly mind.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: WolfPants




The lefts has radicals for sure , but Trump & his right wing nationalist cult is a danger to our Constitution & Country.


That one sentence show me 2 things.

You claim to hate both sides but obviously lean hard to the Left, finding excuses for the behavior and 2nd, you are woefully ignorant about the motives of the Right.

"armed to the teeth"

Yes. Yes we are.
There is no leaning to the left . All humanity naturally leans left as the moderate liberal is the perfect temperature .
You can keep dragging your war banners up & down the hills that belong to kings .
Im nothing like you when compared to any of your left or right morals .
You are stuck in a closed system of zeros & ones
You only know two ways & believe you actually chose one path or the other.
Im a quantum computer to your solid state gates or paths .

Lol, I’ve read good columns on the mental illness that convinces people that their social beliefs are literally prescribed by nature and the earth.
Every word you write is just dripping with it.
Hey, Hitler had a nice little run with this way of thinking.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: WolfPants

I'm on page 2 of this thread on Conspiracy in Religion Forum.

Not a single thing about religion from responders. Just all politics.

Maybe Evangelical Christianity is just politics. Religion of politics. How to govern and regulate others in the World.

Complete Worldly mind.


And the WHO, world bank, UN, EU, world court …… they don’t do any of this type of thing, eh ?
Ooh that’s right, they only do the “good“ kind of it.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: WolfPants

no such thing as either a moderate or centrist the extreme end of liberalism is a merger of capitalism/socialism and a return to slavery/serfdom.. we saw that when liberalism died in the 1920s with Nazism, fascism and Stalinism opportunistically taking liberalism to its natural conclusion..
Then what do you call Scandinavian governments then ? Are the failures too ?


Let me get this straight. You are opposed to MAGA because you see it as a throwback to when the system was only working for white men, and then you point to other white countries on how things should be run. Lefties...it's like they don't even listen to what they themselves say, let alone their political opponents.
Your argument makes zero sense . Did Scandinavian countries have black slaves ? Did Scandinavian counties not allow blacks to vote 58 years ago ? Did Scandinavians create reservations for indigenous peoples ?


Scandinavians took part in the slave trade. Slavery is apart of their history. This has to be a troll thread.

It must be fun writing voluminous walls of text, while actually knowing almost nothing.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: WolfPants

Show us where the red ballcap with MAGA hurt you....



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: WolfPants

Sounds like a case of terminal uniqueness to me.




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