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Rumours Yevgeny Prigozhin is still alive

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posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 09:28 PM
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According to some rumours the leader of the wagner group is still alive. This piece of news had some extensive coverage from much of the mainstream and it came from a Russian political analyst who claimed Yevgeny Prigozhin is alive and well and the person killed in the accident is a doppelganger who was actually killed in the accident.


www.theweek.in...


Following reports about Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin being killed in a plane crash, a Russian political analyst has alleged that the warlord is still “alive, well and free”, claiming that it was his doppelganger who was actually killed in the accident.

Alleging that Prigozhin foiled an assassination attempt sanctioned by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Dr Valery Solovey claimed that the Wagner boss is now plotting his revenge. Solovey is a former professor at Moscow’s Institute of International Relations, which trains spies and diplomats

“First, the plane in which Yevgeny Prigozhin was supposed to fly was downed by a Russian air defence system,” Daily Mail quoted Solovey as saying. “There was no explosion on board. It was downed from the outside.”

“How did he end up alive while his close people died? This is the choice he [Prigozhin] was faced with. I'm not talking about the moral side of this choice. God forbid any of us face such a choice. He intends to take revenge for having been faced with such a choice. He intends to take revenge on people who were intending to destroy him, and destroyed people close to him,” he added





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posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 09:42 PM
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A little DNA should clear this right up.



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
A little DNA should clear this right up.


His DNA was confirmed at the crash site, and a private funeral/burial was held at Porokhovskoye cemetery.

fox2now.com...


edit on 9/4/2023 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 10:00 PM
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Best if they exhume the corpse and parade it around a little for the western cameras.



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posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
A little DNA should clear this right up.


His DNA was confirmed as present at the crash site.....


...by many of the same people who most likely had a hand in his death...


And who would have a significant stake in discrediting the "real" Prigozhin as a fake, should he resurface.



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 10:55 PM
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One the things I ask myself sometimes is “well, how could xxxxxx be true?” Meaning, if the statement in question is that it was the body double killed and he’s a live - and if that’s true… what would or could it mean?

If true, it would signal to me that Prigozhin may have had a heads up that this was coming. Putin could never acknowledge that - ever. It’s a lose lose for him. So, he buried Priozhin, thanks him for his service, and denies any involvement. No other way to play it. But, the guy who was lost in a “tragic plane crash” also organized a military coup against said Putin but weeks ago.

Adding to the possibility this may be true is that Prigozhin had likely pissed off more than one person given his line of work. I would expect that his security and intel network is vast and well connected. If that network picked something up, deploy the double.

If Prigozhin is alive, I can’t imagine he has a lot of good feels about Putin. That would be very bad for Putin should Prigozhin decide to do something about it.

All of that said, I would be they got him. Even though it’s the same people who are giving us the DNA findings and also denying missile involvement - not the cleanest source of truth - my hunch is he is in fact dead.

But, when it all went down in the first place my first reaction was “hit” and then a sneaking suspicion they didn’t get him because of the response. Since I can build a path to saying he’s alive that doesn’t sound like the plot of a Bond movie - meaning it’s reasonably achievable given his resources - I can’t discredit the chance he is still alive.

Time will tell on this one, I suppose.



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 11:14 PM
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Heh when this happened, my first thought was, was he on the plane?
edit on 4-9-2023 by Kaiju666 because: Forgot a was



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
A little DNA should clear this right up.


His DNA was confirmed at the crash site, and a private funeral/burial was held at Porokhovskoye cemetery.

fox2now.com...



Did you personally extract and test the DNA and have a positive sample against which to match it?

No?

I didn't think so.

So, how the hell really knows. You don't actually trust any of these people, do you?



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 06:31 AM
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He's living with Hitler in the Antarctic. Please don't say Hitler should be dead now, he aint cos the Nazis invented a serum for long lasting life. And if you believe the "Nazi Bell" story you'll believe that.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
A little DNA should clear this right up.


His DNA was confirmed at the crash site, and a private funeral/burial was held at Porokhovskoye cemetery.

fox2now.com...



Did you personally extract and test the DNA and have a positive sample against which to match it?

No?

I didn't think so.

So, how the hell really knows. You don't actually trust any of these people, do you?


I'd say we can use common sense. If he was still alive Putin would never have made the statement about his death. I know Putin knows he is dead his actions show this.

The only conspiracy left is who orgastraighted it for Putin. I doubt it was a military General.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

I wonder if they used the same DNA lab that they used for Bin Laden?



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
A little DNA should clear this right up.


His DNA was confirmed as present at the crash site.....


...by many of the same people who most likely had a hand in his death...


And who would have a significant stake in discrediting the "real" Prigozhin as a fake, should he resurface.


I see . Well if they can fake his death they can Fake his DNA.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: crayzeed
This is fact right here. And they captured Admiral Byrd and injected him with the same serum. Also kidnapped was James Forrestal who now labors as Hitler's butler 👍



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

There were people who believed Elvis was still alive but as we know he wasn't.
It seems the guy has some form when it comes to making outlandish claims.

The “SVR General,” along with top specialist in occultism” Andrey Kosmach (another regular guest on Solovey’s YouTube channel), have long been key sources of the political analyst’s most outlandish stories. Such as, for example,Solovey’s claim that Putin had shamans perform a ritual killing of a black dog so that he could drink the animal’s sacrificial blood (in fact, Solovey has expressed concern over Putin’s purported involvement in shamanism and blood rites more than once.)
meduza.io...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: vance

You forgot Lord Lucan and Shergar.




posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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If he is still alive, if, then either he thwarted an assassination attempt or Putin was in on faking his death, for some reason.

Who knows?



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AlienBorg

There were people who believed Elvis was still alive but as we know he wasn't.
It seems the guy has some form when it comes to making outlandish claims.

The “SVR General,” along with top specialist in occultism” Andrey Kosmach (another regular guest on Solovey’s YouTube channel), have long been key sources of the political analyst’s most outlandish stories. Such as, for example,Solovey’s claim that Putin had shamans perform a ritual killing of a black dog so that he could drink the animal’s sacrificial blood (in fact, Solovey has expressed concern over Putin’s purported involvement in shamanism and blood rites more than once.)
meduza.io...


If you try to invalidate this hypothesis you're not doing a great job. Drawing parallels with Elvis is so unfortunate...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
If he is still alive, if, then either he thwarted an assassination attempt or Putin was in on faking his death, for some reason.

Who knows?


True.

Nobody knows for sure what has happened.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AlienBorg

There were people who believed Elvis was still alive but as we know he wasn't.
It seems the guy has some form when it comes to making outlandish claims.

The “SVR General,” along with top specialist in occultism” Andrey Kosmach (another regular guest on Solovey’s YouTube channel), have long been key sources of the political analyst’s most outlandish stories. Such as, for example,Solovey’s claim that Putin had shamans perform a ritual killing of a black dog so that he could drink the animal’s sacrificial blood (in fact, Solovey has expressed concern over Putin’s purported involvement in shamanism and blood rites more than once.)
meduza.io...


If you try to invalidate this hypothesis you're not doing a great job. Drawing parallels with Elvis is so unfortunate...


I think the quoted portion that shows Solovey to be a bit of a nutter invalidates the hypothesis , your mileage may vary.

He was asked to resign from the University he worked at in 2019.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 06:35 PM
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what a surprise. there was no proof he was killed.




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