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This book, first published in 1956, describes the various tactics used by Totalitarian states, and explores why some people stand up to them better than others. It discusses brainwashing, menticide (a term coined by the author), attaining false confessions, and the gamut of tactics of mental submission -- be they active or passive in nature and whether they target individuals or the whole of society.
They found that 90% of the people were willing to go to the highest level in the experiment. In terms of differences between peoples willingness to deliver shock to a man versus a woman, "It is worth remarking," write the authors, "that although the number of people refusing to carry out the commands of the experimenter was three times greater when the student [the person receiving the "shock"] was a woman, the small sample size does not allow us to draw strong conclusions."
In terms of how society has changed, Grzyb notes, "half a century after Milgram's original research into obedience to authority, a striking majority of subjects are still willing to electrocute a helpless individual."
today the percentage which is 90% of people will still follow an authority figure's instructions to deliver that shock.
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: quintessentone
today the percentage which is 90% of people will still follow an authority figure's instructions to deliver that shock.
You're absolutely right - I didn't take into account the sheer levels of narcissism & psychopathy/sociopathy in modern 13-25 age groups. There was a video I saw the other day on Telegram in which some dickhead late teenage lad was posing for a TikTok video in front of the body of a man who had been stabbed to death only moments earlier. The man's poor wife could be heard crying hysterically in the background, while this little idiot was joking & hyping up what he had witnessed, as if doing a product review for some engaging new tech. Apparently the post went viral, with hundreds of thousands of views on TikTok within days. Shows the depths of depravity operant in young minds today.
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Psychologists have one of the highest suicide rates among occupations.
Almost like they shouldn't be giving people advice on how to live their lives...
I agree. They are raised to believe they are the 'best at everything' just because they were born, or just because they're pretty, rich, black , young , they are delusional. And yes I didn't include white because I see the race card only being played by blacks. Also, parents who are both working not involved enough with their kids when they're growing up.
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: quintessentone
today the percentage which is 90% of people will still follow an authority figure's instructions to deliver that shock.
You're absolutely right - I didn't take into account the sheer levels of narcissism & psychopathy/sociopathy in modern 13-25 age groups. There was a video I saw the other day on Telegram in which some dickhead late teenage lad was posing for a TikTok video in front of the body of a man who had been stabbed to death only moments earlier. The man's poor wife could be heard crying hysterically in the background, while this little idiot was joking & hyping up what he had witnessed, as if doing a product review for some engaging new tech. Apparently the post went viral, with hundreds of thousands of views on TikTok within days. Shows the depths of depravity operant in young minds today.
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Psychologists have one of the highest suicide rates among occupations.
Almost like they shouldn't be giving people advice on how to live their lives...
originally posted by: nerbot
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Psychologists have one of the highest suicide rates among occupations.
Almost like they shouldn't be giving people advice on how to live their lives...
It is not that they shouldn't be giving advice to others, it's that they themselves have nowhere to turn for help. Perhaps the ego of one who heals cannot overcome the inability to say "help!" for themselves and end up living in a world of frustration.
After all, I'm sure many psychologists begin by overcoming personal problems, working them out, feeling they can help others, and then forget to keep nurturing the self as a way of living while they begin and continue careers in the field.
Can you tell me what this "plandemic" achieved, and how?
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: chr0naut
Can you tell me what this "plandemic" achieved, and how?
I believe it was an experiment to see how many, and how fast people would roll over belly up just because a figure of "authority" told them to. Even to the point of ignoring their own sense of logic and morality.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Can you tell me what this "plandemic" achieved, and how?
As near as I can tell, nothing politically has changed after the austerity of the lockdowns was lifted and the vaccines were rolled out.
But in the turbulence that occurred over the same time period, much was lost for no appreciable gain.
If anything happened, more have come to distrust authorities, and very political systems that try to place limits upon those authorities.